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Your opinions on this OP -"In Defense Of The Gay White Male", and the comments on it?

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Here's an opinion piece from the Advocate from a gay white man who was attending a sexual freedom and his thoughts on it.

I am a white, cisgender gay man. I'm Ronald Reagan at a bathhouse, the queer equivalent of "The Man." The oppressive, dingy pigeon in the flamingo pen. Parties become less diverse the second I walk in.

At the end of this summer, I had the fortune to attend a sexual freedom conference in D.C. A point made frequently there was that inequality is not equal. Race, gender, and gender expression conspire to strip a person of their freedom just as much as any outside prejudice or hateful legislation. I enjoyed this conference and what I learned there. At one point, however, an extremely (and admittedly) butch Latino lesbian took a genuinely moving speech about her resulting personal struggles to a crescendo. That crescendo was ending a sentence with something about "fighting against the oppressive tyrannies of white men." She paused then, as the entire room lit up with the kind of furious applause usually saved for a game-saving Steelers touchdown. I cheered too but didn't feel good when I was doing it.

Four years spent in queer media have taught me a fair amount about privilege, about the ways that my gay life is easier for reasons as basic as the color of my skin and the fact that my gender matches my biology. But the more I try to reconcile these privileges with my desire to create an equal queer world, the more I am left with one question: Can a nontrans, white gay man ever truly leave the comforts of his own identity without having to make frequent and loud apologies for the crimes of his ilk?



I realized pretty early on that I would probably never fit into the mainstream gay community for the mere fact that I prefer, say, Kate Bush over Madonna, David Byrne over Elton John. If something as basic as my chosen queer icon could make me uncomfortable in 90% of existing gay spaces, then I can only imagine how set apart a woman, trans person, or person of color must feel in the supposedly all-accepting gay universe. I am frequently called out for, at best, my excess of privilege and, at worst, the ways that people like me have disenfranchised the rest of the queer community through our existence and our actions. And I don't think it's fair for another person to label me an oppressor without the barest knowledge of what I have done in my life or what kind of person I actually am.

The aforementioned statement about white men undercuts the very point it is trying to make: In any community people should be proud of who they are. We should not be told that the color of our skin or what is between our legs makes us "less than" or should make us a viable target for another's vitriol. Yet as a cisgender white guy who feels more comfortable outside of the mainstream, megaclubs-and-Abercrombie world than inside of it, it is frustrating that I must prove myself any time I take a foray out of my own identity. I end up having to do what no one of any identity should have to do: Apologize for what I am.

If things are going to get better, become as they should be, everyone should have a nuanced understanding of the ways that race and gender intersect with sexuality. All races and all genders. If cisgender people must always fear reprisal when talking about trans issues, if men are deemed too privileged to fit in with the lesbian community, how can there actually be a dialogue? The idea that men like me have marinated too long in their own excess to ever understand anyone else's struggle propagates something harmful: the idea that gender is simply the lack of maleness, race a lack of whiteness, sexuality a lack of gayness. It takes a whole population interested in making a difference and cuts them out of the dialogue completely.

This is not an article about the ways I am disenfranchised for being white or biologically male. I know that the gay world traditionally and invisibly revolves around people like me and am not shallow enough to begrudge others their own spaces and struggles. But it would be nice to share my own thoughts about race and gender without fear of immediate chastisement for my ignorance.

For instance, I do not know what it is like to be trans, and I am scared to ask. I am scared to write articles on the subject because I will never know all the nuances of language and experience necessary to write do so without offending someone else. When I bring this up to my trans friends I am often told to research, to read a couple "Trans 101" blogs for some basic knowledge to keep my ass covered.

But trans people are just that - people. It makes me uncomfortable to research them as I would a term paper or the purchase of a new oven when there are actual individuals, friends, that I can glean this knowledge from personally. Race and gender are especially thorny topics in any community, but at least in the queer community we are united by our supposedly "abhorrent" sexual and gender identities. I honestly and nonaggressively mean that I don't know how to bridge gaps within the community when the very existence of these gaps disallows me from being able to enter the conversation as an equal.

For instance, I like a lot of queer musicians. If I write about a band I like that is made up of white men, I wait for the inevitable frustration that I am writing about yet another group of white men. No matter how many times I might have written about the alternatives, artists like Kele Okereke or Nomi Ruiz, J.D. Samson or Shunda K, the idea that I might also support artists who fit the same identity category as me, whose lives were probably hard but not as hard as others', means that I've set things back. No one wants me to begin every article with a screed about "some of my best friends being ___," but the assumption that this is not true exists every time I open my mouth or touch fingers to keyboard.

Let's go back, then, to the woman at the sexual freedom conference. What should I have done? Raise my hand and apologize? I don't think that I, personally and knowingly, had done anything to this woman that I should be sorry for. Do I fight back, respond with bile that white men have feelings too and that we don't like being denigrated in public? I don't think it would have gone well.

I want to ask how I can help and how I can change without having to atone for crimes I did not commit. I might never be considered an ally again after writing this article, but if I come out of this with some answers, I'll consider the whole thing worthwhile.

http://jezebel.com/5745172/in-defense-of-the-gay-white-male

As a bi-sexual Latino man, I honestly don't know what to make of this OP. Yeah gay white men are more visble within the gay community, but I didn't realize there was some kind of "hierarchy" and levels of "privilege". Call me naive but how the hell does this factor in for those of us in the LGBT community fighting for equality when everyone seems to want to spot the differences between us?

As for the comments on this piece, I went over to a community I'm a part of called ontd_p. As a member I can say that I'm really disgusted by some of the vile, bitter ,and passive-agressive comments about this piece. I would voice my opinion of it, but I'm afraid I might get railroaded for not agreeing with anyone there. It reminds me why I feel like no one will gain true equality without our community because people just want to bitch and mock without hearing anyone out.

Here are the comments:

http://community.livejournal.com/ontd_political/7632128.html?page=1#comments

Anyway what do you all think of the Opinion piece, and about the comments itself?
 
It was pretty whiny. The guy should find some friends who don't grade him based on his diversity quotient, and he should be less concerned about walking on eggshells. If he's not racist or sexist or transphobic or whatever, then he probably won't come off as racist or sexist or transphobic in any such discussions, and has nothing to worry about.

But to answer his question, if he had a problem with the "tyranny of white men" line, then he should have said why he thought it was unfair and wrong. No need for melodrama.
 
If everyone could just treat each other like equals, this wouldn't be a problem. Some people feel they're above others because of the color of their skin, or their sexuality; in turn, some of those scorned people believe they're better because they had to suffer while everyone else had "privilege".

People are offended too easily and they're too quick to see malice in things that are intended only as observations, or comments that stem from pure ignorance. Instead of degrading and yelling at someone who said something that might be seen as homophobic, I usually try to figure out what their real intentions were in making the comment. In doing this, I almost always find they were simply trying to be humorous without realizing they were being offensive, or that they were simply ignorant as to why their comment might be portrayed as offensive. Every off-color comment someone says is not a personal attack on you.

It's good to try not to exclude others, whether it be because you believe they are less than you because they're a minority, or whether you believe they're more privileged than you because they're a majority.
 
Honestly, what I think is that people need to calm down.

He brought up the issue that if he wants to learn about, for instance, trans issues... he could get yelled at for not knowing it.

That ain't cool. If someone uses a slur against someone else purposefully, then by all means be angry, but if someone uses "tranny" without realizing it's offensive, or "hermaphrodite" instead of "intersex"... don't get mad. Just correct them and move on. Same goes for if someone's trying to learn; teach them, but don't be angry.
 
I'm down with the OP. It's something I've struggled with here on the boards and elsewhere. I constantly see comments along the lines of - "You will never understand because you're white and were raised in that world of privelege," and see my comments devalued in discussions about racism simply because of the color of my skin, by people who have no idea what stands I've taken against bigotry throughout my life.

Allow me to put the shoe on the other foot - I don't NEED to read the negative comments this missive recieved, because I know the exact tenor and semantic content of every one - they will be no more than what I expect of them.
 
What I see here is yet another useless article in The Advocate. One that creates more questions than it answers. I wish the people at Here Media would interact with the real world. If they did they'd be able to figure out these things for themselves.
 
I just don't get why the author of that article even worries about reaching out to those people. Extreme extremists are extreme!
 
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