Zane Michaels THREAD

[epresmd]

Just FYI....Zane is posting pics (some same) on his old twitter account as well as new fratmenzane account

 

[ZaneMich]

So maybe the rumors were true after all

 

[statsguy]

^^ Congratulations. It seems like a good move on your part and you'll be a good addition for fp. (I hope that you make it in front of the camera some of the time.)

 

[cccinhk]

A subsequent post there mentions how this thread helped reveal Zane to 1 Fratpad member
http://benjy47.blogspot.com/2013/04/...s-arrived.html

Zane - welcome to the Fratmen organization. I was not familiar with you when the announcement was made, but have since read through your thread on Just Us Boys, and got a one month subscription to AZ to check out your work. I also have "Shame and Fortune" on my kindle, but have not read it yet. I have to admit I've developed a little crush on you you seem really nice and genuine.

The JUB thread reveals a lot of your industry knowledge and creativity. The AZ work is just plain hot, hot, hot. Your efforts in getting those straight boys to be so passionate and at least seem interested in their scene partner really showed.

I think you will be able to help Fratmen reach a higher level. And, I commend HMJ for reaching out to you.

I hope you will be able to incorporate some cam time (you don't have to be naked) to chat with the members to get feedback and to let us know where you are headed and what you are thinking.

Again, welcome to Fratmen.

 

[ZaneMich]

Thanks again cccinhk! I'm heading to my first Brother's meeting this morning

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Are you taking over for Leo?

 

[aussboy]

Zane, Welcome to the Fratpad and I hope you can add some magic to get things exciting again. Can I make (I will anyway) a request? The current FP platform does not work on Ipad's. IPhone or other Apple mobil devices.FP is losing lots of potential members du eto this simple fix. That, plus some much better content will help revise this great group of guys.

 

[native352]

Well, I said that I would follow Zane where ever he went. And I will probably buy a month's membership at Fratmen although it hasn't been a favorite site of mine for quite some time. The value for the price has just not been there. But I really want to wait and see how much of an impact Zane will have on the site and how much freedom he will have to create some of the excitement he produced at AustinZane. Especially since I know that all the hotness was actually outstanding acting and not real.

 

[ZaneMich]

Zane, Welcome to the Fratpad and I hope you can add some magic to get things exciting again. Can I make (I will anyway) a request? The current FP platform does not work on Ipad's. IPhone or other Apple mobil devices.FP is losing lots of potential members du eto this simple fix. That, plus some much better content will help revise this great group of guys.

April 17, 2013

You'll notice some minor changes to the format of this page today, but the great news is that all of the cams and chat are now compatible with the iPad and iPhone. This is just a first step in some major changes in both the appearance April 17, 2013

Let us know how we're doing,

hostmaster.john@fratmen.com

 

[truxtun]

A subsequent post there mentions how this thread helped reveal Zane to 1 Fratpad member
http://benjy47.blogspot.com/2013/04/...s-arrived.html

Zane - welcome to the Fratmen organization. I was not familiar with you when the announcement was made, but have since read through your thread on Just Us Boys, and got a one month subscription to AZ to check out your work. I also have "Shame and Fortune" on my kindle, but have not read it yet. I have to admit I've developed a little crush on you you seem really nice and genuine.

The JUB thread reveals a lot of your industry knowledge and creativity. The AZ work is just plain hot, hot, hot. Your efforts in getting those straight boys to be so passionate and at least seem interested in their scene partner really showed.

I think you will be able to help Fratmen reach a higher level. And, I commend HMJ for reaching out to you.

I hope you will be able to incorporate some cam time (you don't have to be naked) to chat with the members to get feedback and to let us know where you are headed and what you are thinking.

Again, welcome to Fratmen.

Speak for yourself dude. I want him naked and I bet a gayzillion other guys do also.

 

[statsguy]

I don’t want to hijack Zane’s thread, but now that Zane has joined the fratmen/pad/house/sucks/xxx organization I am considering becoming a subscriber. But after looking at each of the "frat" web sites and taking the tours I’m having a hard time figuring out the relationship between the various web sites, let alone what I get for my money on each site. Currently, I’m used to web sites like cf, sc, and the old az where what’s provided to subscribers is spelled out in rather concrete terms in the site’s marketing materials. All I can find in the frat tours are pictures of very cute guys and a number of video trailers. Even the “join” pages do very little to clarify what is included.

So a few questions about the different “frat” web sites:

• Are fratmen.com and fratmen.tv the same site?
• Is fratmen.com all solo jackoffs or do the models have any kind of guy-guy sex? Do the models do anything else together?
• Is fratmensucks an oral and toys only guy-guy web site? If not, what is it? Are these the same guys as in fratmen?
• Fratpad appears to be live cam of guys in a house. The fratpad Join page says (24/7 live fratpad cams, 24/7 live web cam chat, 24 hrs of live cam archives updated daily, and crazy frat boy antics) So how many guys are there? Is it always the same guys? What do they do? Do they have sex? Are they all available for chat 24 hours per day? Does the whole house have cams? Are all the cams always active? Are the cams all in fixed locations? If you miss a day of archives is that last you see of the materials?
• What’s the difference between fratpad and frathouse?
• Are frathouse and frathousexxx the same thing? Any guy-guy sex in either of these?
• Are there additional functions that cost subscribers extra, or is everything included in the base subscription fee?
• Am I correct that all of these sites have different subscriptions with no discounts for members that join more than one site? i.e. - (monthly fees = $30(tv) + $27 (pad) + $35 (sucks) + $15 (house) =$117/month to view frat men. (that’s a lot of $$) Or with a six months subscription its $285 = $42.50 per month.
• What’s fratmenlive? Is it a separate web site? How expensive is it?

The following is the information that I want to know about each of the above sites: an explanation of what kind of action (both sexual and non-sexual) occurs, a catalog of the models, a catalog of the videos, a description of the videos, photos and/or trailers for each video, a committed schedule of updates, a statement of the actual resolution and file types of videos, a explanation of whether all updates are streamable and/or downloadable, a feel for how long the videos last, an explanation of other benefits to subscribers, and any limitations (e.g. maximum d/l per time period). I’m amenable to giving the “frat” web sites money, I just want to know what I get in exchange.

And, while I think Zane will be a good addition to the production side of "Frat", count me as one of the gayzillion guys that also want to see him naked in front of the camera as well. Isn't that part of being a "fratman"?

 

[swerve]

^That sounds COMPLICATED!!!

Thanks for taking the time to ask ALL the RIGHT questions...

Hopefully someone here can fill BOTH of us in on the specifics...

 

[aussboy]

April 17, 2013

You'll notice some minor changes to the format of this page today, but the great news is that all of the cams and chat are now compatible with the iPad and iPhone. This is just a first step in some major changes in both the appearance April 17, 2013

Let us know how we're doing,

hostmaster.john@fratmen.com

Zane, great work. Looking forward to see what else you can bring to the pad.

 

[ZaneMich]

Hey Statsguy_

That is exactly the type of feedback we want to here. We are aware that the navigation as it stands definitely needs some attention and will be a part of the upcoming Fratmen relaunch. I want to answer all of your questions but I'm going to wait until the new changes go into affect so this thread will be relevant after the changes are made.
Thanks for the support and we love hearing the feedback!

 

[statsguy]

^^ OK, I'll be patient.

As an aside, I was surprised how little help (info) I got from the sites that review gay porn sites. But maybe the relaunch will help that as well.

 

[statsguy]

Zane Tweeted this pic today and captioned it "I'm a sleepy ass this morning." Personally, I don't think his ass looks sleepy at all. I'd say it's down right perky. And one of these days Zane is going to get the flirt of the year award. (I'm not complaining.)

I cropped the picture to meet jub's attachments limitations. I love how his cock just barely peeks around the edge of his thigh. As well as the 2012 iMac stuffed in the window.

 

[aussboy]

Zane,
Just tried Fratpad on my Ipad and it still does not work. I tried both the archives and the chat sections and neither played.
Good news is that Fratmen Sucks does now work on my Ipad.

April 17, 2013

You'll notice some minor changes to the format of this page today, but the great news is that all of the cams and chat are now compatible with the iPad and iPhone. This is just a first step in some major changes in both the appearance April 17, 2013

Let us know how we're doing,

hostmaster.john@fratmen.com

 

[cccinhk]

Zane,
"Just tried Fratpad on my Ipad and it still does not work. I tried both the archives and the chat sections and neither played."

The Fratmen's live shows & chat work on my Ipad--I just checked again.

That is new!

Alas changing cams means logging into chat again.

Archives don't work on Ipads:
The archives are still in flash which is not supported by Ipad.

Each 4 hour archive (8 a day) is over 1 GB -- a lot to convert to html5 (over a 6+ years period!) I presume they'll start converting the most recent first - once they can spare the staff.

The $3 or $4 Puffin browser app for Ipad (& Android) plays flash.

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Zane,
"Just tried Fratpad on my Ipad and it still does not work. I tried both the archives and the chat sections and neither played."

The Fratmen's live shows & chat work on my Ipad--I just checked again.

That is new!

Alas changing cams means logging into chat again.

Archives don't work on Ipads:
The archives are still in flash which is not supported by Ipad.

Each 4 hour archive (8 a day) is over 1 GB -- a lot to convert to html5 (over a 6+ years period!) I presume they'll start converting the most recent first - once they can spare the staff.

The $3 or $4 Puffin browser app for Ipad (& Android) plays flash.

 

[cccinhk]

I don’t want to hijack Zane’s thread, but now that Zane has joined the fratmen/pad/house/sucks/xxx organization I am considering becoming a subscriber. But after looking at each of the "frat" web sites and taking the tours I’m having a hard time figuring out the relationship between the various web sites, let alone what I get for my money on each site. Currently, I’m used to web sites like cf, sc, and the old az where what’s provided to subscribers is spelled out in rather concrete terms in the site’s marketing materials. All I can find in the frat tours are pictures of very cute guys and a number of video trailers. Even the “join” pages do very little to clarify what is included.

So a few questions about the different “frat” web sites:

• Are fratmen.com and fratmen.tv the same site?
• Is fratmen.com all solo jackoffs or do the models have any kind of guy-guy sex? Do the models do anything else together?
• Is fratmensucks an oral and toys only guy-guy web site? If not, what is it? Are these the same guys as in fratmen?
• Fratpad appears to be live cam of guys in a house. The fratpad Join page says (24/7 live fratpad cams, 24/7 live web cam chat, 24 hrs of live cam archives updated daily, and crazy frat boy antics) So how many guys are there? Is it always the same guys? What do they do? Do they have sex? Are they all available for chat 24 hours per day? Does the whole house have cams? Are all the cams always active? Are the cams all in fixed locations? If you miss a day of archives is that last you see of the materials?
• What’s the difference between fratpad and frathouse?
• Are frathouse and frathousexxx the same thing? Any guy-guy sex in either of these?
• Are there additional functions that cost subscribers extra, or is everything included in the base subscription fee?
• Am I correct that all of these sites have different subscriptions with no discounts for members that join more than one site? i.e. - (monthly fees = $30(tv) + $27 (pad) + $35 (sucks) + $15 (house) =$117/month to view frat men. (that’s a lot of $$) Or with a six months subscription its $285 = $42.50 per month.
• What’s fratmenlive? Is it a separate web site? How expensive is it?

The following is the information that I want to know about each of the above sites: an explanation of what kind of action (both sexual and non-sexual) occurs, a catalog of the models, a catalog of the videos, a description of the videos, photos and/or trailers for each video, a committed schedule of updates, a statement of the actual resolution and file types of videos, a explanation of whether all updates are streamable and/or downloadable, a feel for how long the videos last, an explanation of other benefits to subscribers, and any limitations (e.g. maximum d/l per time period). I’m amenable to giving the “frat” web sites money, I just want to know what I get in exchange.

And, while I think Zane will be a good addition to the production side of "Frat", count me as one of the gayzillion guys that also want to see him naked in front of the camera as well. Isn't that part of being a "fratman"?

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Wow so many questions!

First I suggest doing the $2 3 day trial for Fratpad. (You will be probably offered a $1 trial for FratmemTV as well. Accept but don't forget to cancel both).

--Fratpad is 8-9 guys doing 4 hour live shows each from 10 or 11A to midnight Pacific. 6 years of archives (1 GB per 4 hour show) avail & free. Fratpad has 16 cams all over the house/outside but only 1 bedroom has a cam. No sound.. There's also a new Hawaii Fratshack with 2 guys - included in Fratpad cams).

Sex at Fratpad?? There's Lots of very erotic sex play (& so & side by side JO_.
Usually the sex is limited to occasional short mutual JO's (shower, bath, massage etc) - if the guys are open to it.: Fratpad often seems to gradually erode the sexual boundaries on some guys & they become more open--'metrosexual' if not bi-sexual..

FratmenSucks
--At this time I suggest joining Fratpad & possibly FratmenSucks (5 day trial $16 - download what you want & run. I hear FMS plans to eventually have 3 updates a week (currently 1 or 2).. Usually no anal (which is fine for me!). The vids are usually 30 min but some are 60.

This member run Fratpad blog gets referral credits - look over on the left
http://benjy47.blogspot.com/

--FratmenTV has been relatively slow updating for several years: FMSucks took over....I hear this will change. Mostly solo shoots,

--Frathouse is a voyeur cam site using the guest house at Fratpad. Fratmen Nico & Jonah currently live there & there are 24 hour cams in all the rooms w sound. Sometimes they do their regular Fratpad shows there too. Sometimes FMSucks vids ae taped there & FH members can watch. Very occasionally there's been str8 sex (not my cup of tea) - when a Fratmen brings in a gal & she signs waivers. I have subscribed but found it tedious.

--Fratmenlive is Fratpad's belated equivalent offering to RandyBlueLive (etc).

Alas gay websites seem to have decided that the money is now in $1 a minute (varies w token purchase) solo shows w their stars: Webmasters explain it (eg) as a way to give older rich guys the fantasy of a real relationship. Branded Flirt For Free eh?

The RB thread (p52) on JUB comments on how RB has declined lately. I got a $10 a month email offer this week (& also a Bel Ami $20 a month for life)--so you know things are bad! So far Fratpad hasn't gone that way - Fratpad still improves along side of FMLive but some have wondered for how long. ...

Sometimes FMSucks shoots are on FMLive but at $1 a minute?.....nope!

There are a few other sites (false starts?) - Ebony, Foot fetish

--The All Access Pass is $60 a month - only worth it if you join more than 2 sites. At this time FratmenLive tokens are not included.

I have just the $99 6 month Fratpad membership (recurs - so cancel it!). And Once a year I do the $16 FMSucks trial (The trial may be cheaper for members -- I recall it being $6)..

Finally: Anyone will tell you that the member community in Fratpad chat is a priceless extra...

 

[BobbyV]

FratmenSucks
--At this time I suggest joining Fratpad & possibly FratmenSucks (5 day trial $16 - download what you want & run. I hear FMS plans to eventually have 3 updates a week (currently 1 or 2).. Usually no anal (which is fine for me!). The vids are usually 30 min but some are 60.

Of course no anal sex would be fine with you. Always nice to see another straight guy knows exactly what the audience wants to see in guy on guy videos. Much like Cody Cummings.

--Frathouse is a voyeur cam site using the guest house at Fratpad. Fratmen Nico & Jonah currently live there & there are 24 hour cams in all the rooms w sound. Sometimes they do their regular Fratpad shows there too. FMSucks vids ae taped there & FH members can watch. Very occasionally there's been str8 sex (not my cup of tea) - when a Fratmen brings in a gal & she signs waivers. I have subscribed but found it tedious.

Tell us more about the tedium.

Fratmenlive is Fratpad's belated equivalent offering to RandyBlueLive (etc).

Yes except Randy Blue is a site that offers actual gay sex.

Alas gay websites seem to have decided that the money is now in $1 a minute (varies w token purchase) solo shows w their stars: Webmasters explain it (eg) as a way to give older rich guys the fantasy of a real relationship.

Ouch. Way to make customers feel great about this site.

The RB thread (p52) on JUB comments on how RB has declined lately. I got a $10 a month email offer this week (& also a Bel Ami $20 a month for life)--so you know things are bad! So far Fratpad hasn't gone that way - Fratpad still improves along side of FMLive but some have wondered for how long. ...

Good to know there are still bargains out there. Thanks!

There are a few other sites (false starts?) - Ebony, Foot fetish

--The All Access Pass is $60 a month - only worth it if you join more than 2 sites. At this time FratmenLive tokens are not included.

I have just the $99 6 month Fratpad membership (recurs - so cancel it!). And Once a year I do the $16 FMSucks trial (The trial may be cheaper for members -- I recall it being $6)..

Finally: Anyone will tell you that the member community in Fratpad chat is a priceless extra...

This sums it all up quite nicely. Thank goodness you are here to fix things. Looking forward to your improvements.