18 year old Prom King wears skirt and crop top to prom

[LilBit]

If a girl had worn that dress the style wouldn't matter. I am amazed at his class mates. In my day you wouldn't make it home in one peice if you showed up like that.

And you think this is a good thing?

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

And you think this is a good thing?

Make America Draconian Again

 

[peeonme]

And you think this is a good thing?

Let me spell it out;,had a girl worn that dress we wouldn't be talking about it. The fact that a boy could wear it and be accepted by his class mates is a good thing. When I was his age doing this would have led to bodily harm, that is a bad thing.
I hope that I don't have to hire a lawyer to read my posts before I post them. Did you say that you are a professor of some kind? You do understand 'context' don't you?

 

[USEDCAR]

Hes cute and if he wants to wear that so what who cares?

If he came in wearing a burlap sack he would be adorable

 

[luckynumbah7]

Let me spell it out;,had a girl worn that dress we wouldn't be talking about it. The fact that a boy could wear it and be accepted by his class mates is a good thing. When I was his age doing this would have led to bodily harm, that is a bad thing.
I hope that I don't have to hire a lawyer to read my posts before I post them. Did you say that you are a professor of some kind? You do understand 'context' don't you?

It's amazing; no matter how often I type that not every woman would be able to wear that dress without severe criticism it's just ....glossed over. Shouldn't be surprised, really.

 

[LilBit]

Let me spell it out;,had a girl worn that dress we wouldn't be talking about it. The fact that a boy could wear it and be accepted by his class mates is a good thing. When I was his age doing this would have led to bodily harm, that is a bad thing.
I hope that I don't have to hire a lawyer to read my posts before I post them. Did you say that you are a professor of some kind? You do understand 'context' don't you?

I was asking for clarification because your post was vague.

 

[peeonme]

I was asking for clarification because your post was vague.

I thought that you might have read the thread where I had tried to be dis ambiguous about my support of this young man.
Your post was followed by a member making a remark about 'make America draconian again'. If I was short with you I am sorry, but the constant onslaught of interpreting everything that I post as being an assault on a group gets old.

 

[peeonme]

It's amazing; no matter how often I type that not every woman would be able to wear that dress without severe criticism it's just ....glossed over. Shouldn't be surprised, really.

I didn't mean to ignore your input about fashion, I just said that we on JUB wouldn't be talking about it, I will concede that she might have drawn criticism locally.

 

[eastofeden]

I was thinking about this again after the straight guys having gay sex thing....

Alot of cross dressers are heterosexuals...even a few Drag Queens/Female Impersonators but not as common....

..so I am curious as a prom king..is his date a woman or a man? ...or maybe I should read the article again. I see the whole thing as a non issue so I probably just skimmed it to begin with.

It doesn't matter really one way or the other...just curious now.

 

[Dominus]

I'm no longer in the mood to argue about this subject. I just want to point out that one side is extremely intellectually dishonest by keep circling back to the strawman that we are against the guy wearing a dress to the prom even though we have explained many times that it's the particular choice of dress we have a problem with, not that he wore a dress to the prom.

When one has to be intellectually dishonest like this, then it should be obvious a conversation cannot go forward.

 

[eastofeden]

I'm no longer in the mood to argue about this subject. I just want to point out that one side is extremely intellectually dishonest by keep circling back to the strawman that we are against the guy wearing a dress to the prom even though we have explained many times that it's the particular choice of dress we have a problem with, not that he wore a dress to the prom.

When one has to be intellectually dishonest like this, then it should be obvious a conversation cannot go forward.

I have watched every episode of Project Runway since day one..this is NOT at all a bad choice. I think it is tasteful and fashion forward....

I am guessing he wants to be fashion forward?.....

I don't know about anyone else but usually I try to answer a thread before I read any other people's responses which is sometimes why I am in left field...and I missed the whole "controversy". I thought it was just about a dress. Now that you say it is the type of dress and I went back to look...eh?...the protest just seems weaker to me now...

...and just maybe it would be more "intellectually honest" to just say you don't like the dress?

 

[Dominus]

I have watched every episode of Project Runway since day one..this is NOT at all a bad choice. I think it is tasteful and fashion forward....

I am guessing he wants to be fashion forward?.....

I don't know about anyone else but usually I try to answer a thread before I read any other people's responses which is sometimes why I am in left field...and I missed the whole "controversy". I thought it was just about a dress. Now that you say it is the type of dress and I went back to look...eh?...the protest just seems weaker to me now...

...and just maybe it would be more "intellectually honest" to just say you don't like the dress?

Trust me, I like the dress. I love guys in dresses with makeup. Not over the top drag queens. I dated a couple guys who wore dresses and makeup in public. I loved it.

But again, the dress in question is provocative. Our stance is prom is no place to dress as slutty as you can get away with.

But whatever. I'm done talking about this.

Edit.

And for the record, even though I went to prom with a girl, had she dressed like that I'm not sure I was going to go along with it. I went out of my way to make it formal enough. I bought a tux. Yes, bought, not rented. I got her a corsage, which was pink, the color of her dress. She had long hair with a very tasteful dress. We danced the night away.

 

[luckynumbah7]

I'm no longer in the mood to argue about this subject. I just want to point out that one side is extremely intellectually dishonest by keep circling back to the strawman that we are against the guy wearing a dress to the prom even though we have explained many times that it's the particular choice of dress we have a problem with, not that he wore a dress to the prom.

When one has to be intellectually dishonest like this, then it should be obvious a conversation cannot go forward.

The particular choice of dress probably couldn't be helped. Prom dresses have built in bras and those bras do not come in 'various sizes'. For that matter, prom dresses themselves don't come in 'various sizes' - different styles/cuts of dresses come in different sizes. If you think they sell a dress with no-bra shelf, big-titted dress options or have a similar style selection of the top/bottom combo he wore for the larger people, think again.

Which means you do your best or you wear the grey number of the woman in the photo behind him. Trying to explain how clothing choice is limited with ya'll and that some people would get severe criticism if they don't utilize that little grey number that was shown in the background of the photo and instead, they cobble together the white & black number is a fool's errand.

You're demanding the guy wear something that doesn't really exist. There are no entirely flat chested prom dresses, for Christ's sake.

They get the 'you're dressing too sexual' insistence in the conversation, is what they get, while other people's 'risque' dresses' get waved right on by because the distinction in options are being ignored. If he went in an evening gown, where the shelf is nonexistent, you'd probably be complaining too. Because fashionable evening gowns show as much skin as that top.

 

[TickTockMan]

I'm no longer in the mood to argue about this subject. I just want to point out that one side is extremely intellectually dishonest by keep circling back to the strawman that we are against the guy wearing a dress to the prom even though we have explained many times that it's the particular choice of dress we have a problem with, not that he wore a dress to the prom.

When one has to be intellectually dishonest like this, then it should be obvious a conversation cannot go forward.

And no racist is racist. They have a black friend.

 

[Dominus]

And no racist is racist. They have a black friend.

Dude, are you for real?

I love naked guys. Does this mean I want to see a male stripper at my family dinner? I love having sex with my husband. Does this mean I want to penetrate him during our family Christmas get together in the family room?

You seriously can't understand the difference between liking something and think it is not appropriate in certain settings?

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

I'm no longer in the mood to argue about this subject. I just want to point out that one side is extremely intellectually dishonest by keep circling back to the strawman that we are against the guy wearing a dress to the prom even though we have explained many times that it's the particular choice of dress we have a problem with, not that he wore a dress to the prom.

When one has to be intellectually dishonest like this, then it should be obvious a conversation cannot go forward.

Do you know what intellectually dishonest or strawman are? You are being dense. Why does someones particular choice of clothing bother you? I dont understand why what someone else wears has anything to do with you. Any emotion or reaction from him wearing whatever he is wearing is from those people who are reactings problem.

If a school in South fucking Carolina doesnt find what he wore provacative, how do you? Its really not provocative and for anyone that finds it so, I’d beg to question whether they went out much. I see women walk down the street in way more provocative clothing, but i don't see people chattering their teeth on about that.

 

[peeonme]

Do you know what intellectually dishonest or strawman are? You are being dense. Why does someones particular choice of clothing bother you? I dont understand why what someone else wears has anything to do with you. Any emotion or reaction from him wearing whatever he is wearing is from those people who are reactings problem.

If a school in South fucking Carolina doesnt find what he wore provacative, how do you? Its really not provocative and for anyone that finds it so, I’d beg to question whether they went out much. I see women walk down the street in way more provocative clothing, but i don't see people chattering their teeth on about that.

Why was the topic posted if it was not for the purpose of discussion? I don't understand why people get upset when someone posts a different point of view. To me, the dress was not provocative compared to what we see daily. That includes guys with their pants so low
that they can hardly walk.
For those who have a problem with cross dressing an 18 year old in a dress is a little much. For traditionalists it's more a matter of if the dress not the gender was provocative.

Society has evolved, look at film clips from the 40's or 50's, men wore suits to ball games. Now they won't wear a tie to church. I have trouble with not dressing properly, but it's my problem. I feel compelled to wear proper attire and never order finger food in a restaurant as it was drilled into me to never pick something up and eat it in public.

I am proud of the kid, the dress and the school. Fashion in this case shouldn't matter, but if it does to some it doesn't mean that they are oppose to this young man and his liberty.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

I don't have a problem with a different point of view, I have a problem faux outrage, faux issues, etc.

 

[Dominus]

I know I said I was done talking about this. But something something just occurred to me.

Think about it this way. When you go out shopping, do you carry around laws regarding theft to make sure you stay within the limits of the law, especially if you dont have any intention to cheat? When you're driving in good faith, do you try to see what you can get away with?

The only people I know who pay close attention to where the fine lines are in the law or code are people who have an agenda. Most of us every day folks know where the limits are without having to "make sure" we are not crossing the limits.

By his own admission, the kid made sure his dress was in compliance with the dress code. This goes back to my original point. Attention ho. He basically admitted that he was going for the most provocative look he could get away with.

Anyway, you guys get to have the last word. I've said what I wanted to say. Unless something new occurs to me.

 

[eastofeden]

I know I said I was done talking about this. But something something just occurred to me.

Think about it this way. When you go out shopping, do you carry around laws regarding theft to make sure you stay within the limits of the law, especially if you dont have any intention to cheat? When you're driving in good faith, do you try to see what you can get away with?

The only people I know who pay close attention to where the fine lines are in the law or code are people who have an agenda. Most of us every day folks know where the limits are without having to "make sure" we are not crossing the limits.

By his own admission, the kid made sure his dress was in compliance with the dress code. This goes back to my original point. Attention ho. He basically admitted that he was going for the most provocative look he could get away with.

Anyway, you guys get to have the last word. I've said what I wanted to say. Unless something new occurs to me.

So what if he is an attention whore? ALOT of people are.

**ahem** thanks to selfies and youtube and twitter and instagram ..alot of people have elevated attention whore to an art form...and a lucrative one at that. Perhaps he will do the same? Good for him.

As you said..he followed the guidelines....'nuff said