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20 Years Brokeback Mountain

Dominus said:
I am one of those old gays that dislike these gay themed movies that have tragic endings. Like, life isn't depressing enough? STOP MAKING GAY THEMED MOVIES WITH TRAGIC SAD ENDINGS.
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It's like The Children's Hour from 1957, but filmed almost half a century later.

I'm don't disagree with this kind of movie, as -of course- this does happen, but too many of those movies just have one of the gay characters killed so viewers can safely put their prejudice back in the box at the end of the movie, without wondering... what if?
 
Harke the Boeotarch said:
It's like The Children's Hour from 1957, but filmed almost half a century later.

I'm don't disagree with this kind of movie, as -of course- this does happen, but too many of those movies just have one of the gay characters killed so viewers can safely put their prejudice back in the box at the end of the movie, without wondering... what if?
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Related to what you said. My mom watched broke back mountain on cable TV. Which surprised me when I heard her talking about it. Never thought she would watch something like that. Anyway, she commented that being Gay you never get a happy ending.

I'm still a little pissed off that the first big budget movie on gay love ends up in tragedy. Remember, kids, this is what happens when you go ghey.
 
I think that what made Brokeback Mountain important wasn't that it was a great story, but that it was the first movie about gays that was shown in regular theaters instead of art theaters and seen by a wider group of people than just gays.
 
Dominus said:
Related to what you said. My mom watched broke back mountain on cable TV. Which surprised me when I heard her talking about it. Never thought she would watch something like that. Anyway, she commented that being Gay you never get a happy ending.

I'm still a little pissed off that the first big budget movie on gay love ends up in tragedy. Remember, kids, this is what happens when you go ghey.
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I would of asked, What do you mean? :devilish::unsure:
 
backagain said:
I would of asked, What do you mean? :devilish::unsure:
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My mom is old fashioned. And she's 81 so I'm not gonna try to change her mind now. Anyway, this movie is a confirmation bias treasure trove for people like her.

I wouldn't say she hates gay people. In fact, she loves us. She's a very accepting person. But she belongs to the group of conservatives that are loving but non-supportive not because they hate who we are but because they just don't think we can find happiness in being gay.

Anyway, like I said, I hate the fact that the first big budgeted gay themed movie that was shown to the wider audience at theaters inadvertently confirmed to this group of conservatives that you can't find happiness in being gay. I really wish they had a better ending where those 2 found a way to be together and make it work.

I recently saw the movie dante and aristotle discover the secrets of the universe. It is a beautiful movie. And it actually has a happy ending. I feel like this movie is better at showing conservatives like my mom that we can find happiness in our own way. That it doesn't have to end up In a tragedy.
 
Kahaih said:
Don't bother struggling.

Even if you've never seen it, you've seen it all before. BBM is totally predictable, cliche, dull, not a damn thing surprising/interesting, . . . . did I mention dull?
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I felt bad for the women in the movie, not the cowboys. One of the most overrated movies right up there with Easy Rider.
 
Harke the Boeotarch said:
It's like The Children's Hour from 1957, but filmed almost half a century later.

I don't disagree with this kind of movie, as -of course- this does happen, but too many of those movies just have one of the gay characters killed so viewers can safely put their prejudice back in the box at the end of the movie, without wondering... what if?
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Fair enough, but love mixed with death has been a winning combination for fiction for thousands of years.

For haters, it doesn't matter what a gay movie does. They will turn it into a negative story exactly the same way MAGA defends Trump. Bias is simply bias.

What Brokeback accomplished was creating sympathetic characters out of the main characters. The adultery angle just doesn't hold traction unless the heterosexual viewer also rejects every movie they ever saw where some straights fell in love despite already being married or in an LTR. Love is still portrayed as love, and the audience gets it even if not willing to accept the breaking of a taboo.

As far as their marriages, neither was depicted as marrying to create a beard. Both were pursuing "norrmal" life, a pattern that was and is true of many gay men who try to be straight and eventually abandon it. Many a member of JUB has attested that he came to a self-awareness over time, not some song-lyric certainty he was "born this way."

And, if Brokeback had sent the couple off to live happily ever after on the mountain, the story would have been weaker literarily. After all, Cinderella isn't a movie for adults, but for children. Adults are more moved, more touched, by tragedy. It makes it indelible.

In real life, many, if not most, marriages end in divorce, plus a large number of those that endure, do so with a jaded acceptance, or even bitterness. Brokeback is a romance, and good romance stories don't follow the couple forty years later with affairs, annoyance, crankiness, obesity, senility, and all the other wonderful combo pack that age and time deliver.
 
mtx333 said:
I felt bad for the women in the movie, not the cowboys.
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But, do you think the director portrayed them fairly?

He seemed to be honest in showing the harm the men caused, just as straight men do when cheating.

Enis' wife moved on, and found a second husband. She still expressed the deep hurt as they gathered for the holiday with him at dinner.

Jack's wife seemed a lot more focused on becoming the middle-classed social hub much more than being in love with him. Jack was a trophy husband.
 
After 20 years Brokeback Mountain remains a significant cultural milestone that continues to resonate with audiences today.
As society progresses towards greater acceptance of different sexual orientations, the film plays mainly in the 1960s,
it serves as a reminder of the journey toward respect and equality for all.

In an era marked by sustained advocacy for LGBTQ+ rights, Brokeback Mountain holds enduring relevance, encouraging ongoing dialogue and reflection on love in all its forms.
Its legacy is likely to influence future generations of filmmakers and storytellers eager to illuminate the multifaceted aspects of human relationships.​
 
I finally watched a chunk of this the other night. It was only a chunk, and I doubt I'll go on--at least at this time.

My feeling was that it felt like a very slow moving movie. It is like watching a couple of snails race each other. Although there might be a snail that moves faster than this movie does.

At least, I took little loss on the DVD, since I got it from the library, at their everyday low price of $0.
 
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