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2015 and they are still Cutting Gay scenes??

I hear you RRUGER.

Now that I'm starring the big 60 in the face, I'm stunned to see my country culturally not moving forward but starting to slide backwards. My calendar tells me it's 2015 yet the people I meet IRL haven't moved much beyond 1985.

A long time ago Bea Arthur explained divorcing her husband because, " I realized Standley was Fred Flintstone . . . with a better car!".

After all these decades I wonder if it's possible for an entire country to be, "Fred Flintstone . . . with a better car"?
 
so true eddmarstarr

its funny, its just going to cause the movie to bomb
 
Even on Canadian television programmes they have same-sex couples kissing. Movies are no different. What about movies like Kill My Darlings?
 
Wow, cavemen. The sex scene in Kill My Darlings was one of the most sensual, erotic scenes I've ever seen. It made me Love Daniel Radcliffe.
 
No they just pick and choose what gets showcased, and what doesn't. Neil Patrick Harris is making millions and he's gayer than a four dollar bill.

So the media isn't homophobic. If anything, (as I mentioned before yet nobody payed attention to me, that's fine people can believe what they want to believe) hollywood and the media are run by us gays are there is an agenda going on.

Just they pick and choose what gets the thumbs up, and what gets the thumbs down. Unfortunately they can't approve everything and let everything side. Otherwise the jig would be up and they would be exposed. And straight is normal we all know that lol.

They'll let Lee Daniels have gay kiss scenes because his is on a black tv show nobody watches, but a more bigger and widespread gay thing will get the boot.
 
Taralen said:
No they just pick and choose what gets showcased, and what doesn't. Neil Patrick Harris is making millions and he's gayer than a four dollar bill.
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Neil Patrick Harris being gay has nothing whatsoever to do with gay kissing scenes ending up on the cutting room floor. The directors wanted it. The actors wanted it. The producers didn't. A simple kiss between two men might keep audiences away from the ticket booth.

Females kissing, however, is box office gold.
 
How many of the people who decide to nix the gay scenes are, in fact, gay themselves?

This is what the accusations have been for years...calling them the Velvet Mafia....

It used to be that if an actor said he was gay it was curtains for his career...
 
star-warrior said:
Is it necessary to include one?
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If it advances the story, yes. By the way, it was a same-sex kiss, but not a gay kiss. According to Kid Cudi:

The "Pursuit of Happiness" singer has a role in the film "James White," which debuted last week at Sundance Film Festival. In the film, Cudi reportedly plays the gay best friend of the film's heterosexual lead role. Though he originally filmed a same-sex kiss, that scene was left on the editing room floor.

“This was way different than anything else I’ve ever done,” Cudi told Billboard. “It was dope to do that. I felt like I had a responsibility to present a different walk in life from that world... I'm mad [Mond] cut out my kissing scenes with David. We made out so many times -- and it was so good! That's my only gripe."

Cudi also told Billboard that he had no qualms about playing a gay character or kissing a member of the same sex, claiming, "My thing is what story are we trying to tell here. I didn't flinch. I'm secure with mine. I'm an artist -- it's all about playing characters that are intriguing and stimulating."
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Unfortunately, it's not enough to say that they're worried about gay kisses turning people away, they're also worried about the negative press that certain right wing Christian groups would give them a la Focus On The Family, One Million Moms, and the American Family Association...it seems these organizations still have a lot of power in controlling the media.One Million Moms kept bellyaching about the Kraft Zesty Guy, shortly before the commercials with him disappeared...I personally believe that the media gave in to shut them up and I don't think it's far fetched to believe that these right wing Christian organizations would try their hardest to get a gay kiss shut down.
 
gsdx said:
Neil Patrick Harris being gay has nothing whatsoever to do with gay kissing scenes ending up on the cutting room floor. The directors wanted it. The actors wanted it. The producers didn't. A simple kiss between two men might keep audiences away from the ticket booth.

Females kissing, however, is box office gold.
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Again, maybe you're not understanding me, because this is a controversial subject.

I don't for one second believe hollywood is homophobic and anti-gay, I also don't fully believe the sports industry is anti-gay, or the music industry is anti-gay.

I believe that we run, I mean we as the LGBT community, run a big portion of all these media liaisons.

Due to that, I can't sit here and say a gay actor can't be successful, a gay athlete can't be successful, a gay hip hop musician can't be successful, and in can't sit here and say that just because one kiss scene in one show that I never watched or heard of was axed, that means hollywood is homophobic? No.

I brought up Neil Patrick Harris is because he's very much A list and you can stop me if I'm wrong or prove me wrong, but he's probably the most richest gay man in hollywood. If Neil Patrick Harris tomorrow decided to make a movie or a film with him and a lover of the same gender, it wouldn't be skin off his nose. If the movie does bad or good. He still will have a good reputation because everyone and their grandmother knows that NPH is homosexual.

So it all depends on the person and the situation.

The only thing I agree with you is reception to those who are religious or overtly homophobic, but that's just a small percentage. If the movie is gay themed, why would someone like that want to see it anyways?

What I don't agree with you is thinking that Hollywood rejects everything gay and we don't ever get any spotlight, because I'm trying to tell you that it's not necessarily true.

I just mentioned that Hollywood is run by a secret elite. Empire has had so many gay kiss and love scenes it's not funny, yet do you watch Empire? I'm black and don't even watch it.

But I'm sure if they made a gay superhero movie all hell would probably break loose, so I do see that point of it.
 
comon we know there is a push to quietly mainstream gay sex and kissing love scenes all that, the problem is you dont want that material getting to people who REALLY dont need to see it because PEOPLE RUIN SHIT, straight people RUIN SHIT. they ruin marriage, they ruin welfare, they ruin shopping, and movies, and restaurants and all their fucking SEX ADS for dick pills is enough to see every fucking day. its like threading a needle, so yeah there has to be more mainstream gay content, 50-150% of men want to see that its just we dont what them to see that because then they will FUCKING RUIN IT.:D straight people will ruin gay culture if you let them near it because every little closet fagget will use his woman to play the 'im straight card' and go full up homophobic, trust me on this one.
 
My department head sent a memorandum to all staff entitled "Cut the Crap." My colleage, and good friend Grigoris sent a message in return along the lines of "I did what you asked, and have deposited your memo in the trash bin.."

Crap comes in various guises, camoflagued as art mesmerising its panting audiences.

Sufficient to say, that I stay clear of art house cinema.
 
Taralen,

I'd think if the T owned even a minuscule bit of Hollywood most of us that've in Hollywood wouldn't be hired to play dead trans people on morgue slabs.
 
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