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On Topic Discussion 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2)

Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

Telstra said:
The Spanish flu killed mostly the strong and healthy ...
Do you have proof of that? I'd like to see a source.

It's a partially true statement.

In a typical epidemic, influenza disproportionately kills the weak, the young and the aged.

The H1N1 pandemics of 1917-1918 (aka the "Spanish Flu") are unusual in that many of those who died were young people with health immune systems (although in the case of some of the European victims, it could be argued that wartime conditions and immune systems that had been weakened by malnutrition may have also been a factor). A more accurate statement would be to say that the "Spanish flu killed a disproportionate number of the otherwise strong and healthy".

The autopsies that were performed on the soldiers who died at US army bases early in the epidemic found organs, particularly lungs, that were bruised, partially necrotic and overwhelmed with fluid. Most were ultimately killed by pneumonia and ARDS. Because this was a virus that most of the younger victims had never been exposed to, it triggered an unusual immune cascade that caused the person's immune system to attack their own body- a lethal cascade of pneumonia, sepsis, ARDS, DIC and other disorders.

This article provides some interesting theories about why the 1917-1918 pandemic was unusual:
Age-Specific Mortality During the 1918 Influenza Pandemic: Unraveling the Mystery of High Young Adult Mortality [NIH]
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

Can the virus carry by wind and still live?
if yes, how can you prevent it?

Do you have proof of that? I'd like to see a source.

I watched a youtube video and it said so, i can't remember which one

Do you have proof of that? I'd like to see a source.

Here you go, scroll down and look at the age group, the highest are the strong and at the peak of human power

https://www.pnas.org/content/105/4/1303
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

11-Feb-2020:

2019-nCoV stats:
Cases reported: 43,138 (up from 40,573 yesterday)
Cases reported in the US - 13 (up from 12 yesterday)
Cases reported in Canada - 7
Deaths: 1,018 (up from 910 yesterday)
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

Can the virus carry by wind and still live?
if yes, how can you prevent it?



I watched a youtube video and it said so, i can't remember which one



Here you go, scroll down and look at the age group, the highest are the strong and at the peak of human power

https://www.pnas.org/content/105/4/1303

Interesting study, but it was for a small, 'stranded' population in Iceland and based on relatively few cases.
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

When this is over, I hope China does something about those markets where bats and other wild animals are slaughtered with little sanitation involved.
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

I have been waiting for African cases to emerge....there can almost be no question but that Chinese nationals have flown into Africa in the last month and at least one of them is infected.
The virus seems to be spreading only spasmodically outside China. It's quite strange but encouraging.
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

12-Feb-2020:

2019-nCoV stats:
Cases reported: 45,204 (up from 43,138 yesterday)
Cases reported in the US - 13
Cases reported in Canada - 7
Deaths: 1,116 (up from 1,018 yesterday)
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

The number of cases in the US is now 14. This was another exposure of someone who had arrived from Wuhan and not an exposure that occurred in the US.

Fourteenth case of coronavirus diagnosed in US [TheHill]
A 14th case of coronavirus, or COVID-19, has been confirmed in the U.S., the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) said Wednesday.

The case is in California and the patient is among a group under a federal quarantine ordered because of its recent return to the U.S. on a State Department-chartered flight that arrived last week, according to the CDC.

The CDC said it expects more cases in the coming weeks and days, including others who recently returned from Wuhan, China where the virus originated.

More than 600 people who returned on chartered flights from Wuhan remain under federal quarantine; 195 were discharged from quarantine yesterday, according to the CDC.

This is the second person at this base who tested positive for the virus. The two patients arrive on different planes and were housed in separate facilities, CDC said.
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

13-Feb-2020:

COVID-19 (new name) stats:
Cases reported: 60,349 (up from 45,204 yesterday)
Cases reported in the US - 14 (up 1 from yesterday_
Cases reported in Canada - 7
Deaths: 1,369 (up from 1,116 yesterday)
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

There are now 15 cases in the US. The 15th case is another person who contracted the virus in China.

US Health and Human Services (HHS) evacuated Americans out of China and quarantined them at military bases in the US. One of the places that house evacuees was Lackland Air Force base near San Antonio. The evacuees there are housed in a hotel on the base and they are being evaluated, fed and clothed by a private company that HHS was trained to handle medical quarantined patients.

The 15th US case of coronavirus is an evacuee at an Air Force base in Texas [CNN]
The 15th case of the novel coronavirus in the United States is one of the evacuees at Lackland Air Force Base in Texas, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Thursday.

The patient has been under federal quarantine since arriving in the US from China on a chartered flight on February 7, the CDC said. The person has been isolated and is receiving medical care at a hospital.

This is the first case of the coronavirus confirmed in Texas. Eight cases have been confirmed in California, one in Massachusetts, one in Washington state, one in Arizona, two in Illinois and one in Wisconsin. There are two instances of person-to-person transmission, one in Illinois and one in California. Two California cases are among evacuees from China.
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

13-Feb-2020:

COVID-19 (new name) stats:
Cases reported: 60,349 (up from 45,204 yesterday)
Cases reported in the US - 14 (up 1 from yesterday_
Cases reported in Canada - 7
Deaths: 1,369 (up from 1,116 yesterday)

This is what I was afraid of.....either many cases had gone unreported...or there is a rapid upsurge in transmitted cases because it is spreading out of control in some area.

I am going to hope that earlier detection and reporting is the reason.
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

Radio news was still saying only 1 case in the U.S. just a few hours ago. Scary.
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

Radio news was still saying only 1 case in the U.S. just a few hours ago. Scary.

If you go to this website, and on the left side where it says "Confirmed Cases by Country/Region", scroll down to the US and click on the number 14 next to US (they haven't updated it yet), it will show you all the locations where there have been positive tests for COVID-19.

The reassuring thing is that all of the people who have tested positive recently traveled to China or were related to someone who had contracted the virus in China. Two of the US cases were family members who likely contracted the virus from someone who was infected in China.
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

This is what I was afraid of.....either many cases had gone unreported...or there is a rapid upsurge in transmitted cases because it is spreading out of control in some area.

I am going to hope that earlier detection and reporting is the reason.

One of the interviews that I read with a CDC epidemiologist said that they believe that the jump in cases was likely to be related to a change in the criteria that the Chinese were using. There's been an issue with the availability of testing kits to confirm that what patients have is COVID-19. So, it's possible that the Chinese have drastically underestimated the number of cases until now. With a clearer set of criteria and better reporting, don't be surprised if the number of cases and number of deaths is higher over the next few days.
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

Excellent KB. Thank you :)
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

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Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

14-Feb-2020:

COVID-19 stats:
Cases reported: 64,456 (up from 60,349 yesterday)
Cases reported in the US - 15 (up from 14 yesterday)
Cases reported in Canada - 7
Deaths: 1,384 (up from 1,369 yesterday)
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

It's scary. Hard to determine where this will go. Last few days im getting vibes that it's worse than I initially thought. Hope they're on the way to a vaccine.
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

15-Feb-2020:

COVID-19 stats:
Cases reported: 67,097 (up from 64,456 yesterday)
Cases reported in the US - 15
Cases reported in Canada - 7
Deaths: 1,527 (up from 1,384 yesterday)
 
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