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On Topic Discussion 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2)

^ They didn't let them wander free in their native countries, you know.

The really bad decisions were those, for example, that let people wander between Valencia, Spain and Milano in Northern Italy, to celebrate a fucking soccer match back in mid-February, not to speak from the stupid 3/8 demonstrations, stupid like all festive demonstrations: from things like that we are paying "a terrible prize".
 
Telstra said:
Also at the start of this pandemic, news report said China beg western countries not to bring their citizens home yet during the Wuhan locked down,
they didn't listen and flew all their citizens home, now they paid a terrible price.
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That's inconsequential to the pandemic.

This became a pandemic because China didn't acknowledge that there was a problem back in December. China allowed business travelers to travel back and forth well into late January. The first cases outside China started in February and were travel-related.

In some of the epidemiological studies currently underway, the first cases in Germany began on 27-January-2020 when a business traveler visited a auto parts factory in Bavaria. After visiting the Bavarian plant, the traveler went to northern Italy.

There was a second wave of infections from leisure travelers. There's a lot of celebrities posting that they have signs and symptoms of COVID-19. These celebrities also have Instagram accounts that show them traveling internationally to Australia, Italy, France, the Caribbean and other leisure travel.

Most of the citizens that were relocated from China were put into quarantine for 14 days upon arrival. The business and leisure travelers weren't quarantined. They flew on planes and went to their jobs, took mass transit and attended social gatherings. This started the chain of person-to-person transmission that we're seeing now.
 
^ well, mistakes all round.
They should quarantine everyone, means everyone including the rich and celebrities during the Wuhan locked down.
 
LeicsDom said:
Karma just came through. Weinstein got infected
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And Rand Paul which increases by 50% the chances that bills will get through without an obstacle from Kentucky... at least for 14 days.
 
Telstra said:
Also at the start of this pandemic, news report said China beg western countries not to bring their citizens home yet during the Wuhan locked down,
they didn't listen and flew all their citizens home, now they paid a terrible price.
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Maybe you meant the British passengers of the Diamond Princess, who were not safely brought back, isolated from the rest? Or you were just making a lucky assumption about the whole world?
 
Scam Alert:

Beware- telemarketers and scammers are advertising cures for COVID-19 and home vaccine/home test kits for SARS-CoV-2.

There are no FDA approved home test kits, vaccines or medications. US Customs has been seizing all sorts of scam "kits" and there has been reports that telemarketers have jumped on the band wagon with robocalls offering all sorts of tests and cures.

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Alerts Consumers About Unauthorized Fraudulent COVID-19 Test Kits [FDA.gov]
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration is actively and aggressively monitoring the market for any firms marketing products with fraudulent coronavirus (COVID-19) diagnostic, prevention and treatment claims as part of our ongoing efforts to protect public health during this pandemic. As a result of these activities, the agency is beginning to see unauthorized fraudulent test kits that are being marketed to test for COVID-19 in the home.

We want to alert the American public that, at this time, the FDA has not authorized any test that is available to purchase for testing yourself at home for COVID-19. The FDA sees the public health value in expanding the availability of COVID-19 testing through safe and accurate tests that may include home collection, and we are actively working with test developers in this space.

Fraudulent health claims, tests, and products can pose serious health risks. They may keep some patients from seeking care or delay necessary medical treatment. The FDA reminds consumers to follow the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s guidelines and speak to your medical provider if you have symptoms of COVID-19. Your medical provider will advise you about whether you should get tested and the process for being tested with an appropriate test.
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Fake coronavirus test kits seized at LAX [KTLA]
Officers seized counterfeit coronavirus test kits at Los Angeles International Airport, U.S. Customs and Border Protection said Saturday.

A package arrived at LAX from the United Kingdom and was labeled “Purified Water Vials,” according to a CBP news release.
Fake coronavirus test kits are seen in photos released by U.S. Customs and Border Protection after they were seized at Los Angeles International Airport on March 12, 2020.Fake coronavirus test kits are seen in photos released by U.S. Customs and Border Protection after they were seized at Los Angeles International Airport on March 12, 2020.

Officers were examining the package Thursday when they found six plastic bags containing vials filled with a white liquid and labeled “Corona Virus 2019nconv (COVID-19)” and “Virus1 Test Kit" inside.
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23-Mar-2020:

Global COVID-19 Mortality/Morbidity
- Cases reported: 350,536 (up from 311,988 yesterday)
- Deaths: 15,328 (up from 13,407 yesterday) - **1,921 people died yesterday

US COVID-19 Mortality/Morbidity
- Cases reported in the US - 35,225 cases (up from 26,747 yesterday, 8,478‬ new cases), 471 deaths

Across the globe:
  • When the epidemic started, both the US and South Korea reported their first case on the same day - 19-January. South Korea immediately started mass testing and isolation of infected residents. The US did not. Yesterday, South Korea reported 64 new cases; the US reported 8,478 new cases. The US is now #3 in number of cases- after China and Italy.
  • For the first time, the number of new cases in Italy and Spain has dropped. Italy reported 5,560 new cases, down from 6,557 the day before. New cases and Spain reported 4,517 new cases yesterday, down from 7,001 new cases the prior day.

Coronavirus cases/deaths in major countries:
  • Italy - 59,138 cases (up from 53,578 yesterday) - 5,476 deaths.
  • Spain - 33,089 (up from 28,572 cases yesterday) - 2,182 deaths
  • Germany - 26,220 cases (up from 23,129 cases yesterday), 111 deaths
  • Iran - 23,049 cases (up from 20,610 Friday) - 1,812 deaths
  • France - 16,720 cases (up from 14,485 cases yesterday), 676 deaths
  • South Korea - 8,961 cases (from 8,897 cases) - 111 deaths
  • Switzerland - 8,547 cases (up from 6,652 cases yesterday), 118 deaths
  • UK - 5,748 cases (up from 5,067 cases yesterday), 290 deaths
  • Netherlands - 4,218 cases (up from 3,643 cases yesterday), 180 deaths
  • Australia - 1,682 cases (up from 1,071 cases yesterday), 7 deaths
  • Canada - 1,469 cases (up from 1,328 yesterday), 21 deaths


United States updates:
  • The US exceeded 1,000 cases on 11-March. A week ago, on 16-Mar at this time, it was 3,774 cases. The case count today is 35,225.
  • 22 states have > 200 cases.
  • 36 states have at least 1 death.
  • The US Navy is reporting that there are 3 ships with coronavirus cases. One ship docked at San Diego has 7 crew members who have tested positive.

Individual States with high case counts:
  • More states are reaching the > 200 cases threshold.
    - New York - 16,887 (up from 12,260 cases yesterday), 114 deaths
    - Washington - 2,025 (up from 1,793 cases yesterday), 95 deaths
    - New Jersey - 1,914 (up from 1,327 case yesterday), 20 deaths
    - California - 1,468 (up from 1,200 cases yesterday), 32 deaths
    - Illinois - 1,049 cases (up from 753 cases yesterday), 9 deaths
    - Michigan - 1,035 (up from 787 cases yesterday), 8 deaths
    - Florida - 1,001 (up from 757 cases yesterday), 12 deaths
    - Louisiana - 837 cases (up from 763 cases yesterday), 20 deaths
    - Massachusetts - 646 (up from 413 cases yesterday), 5 death
    - Georgia - 620 (up fom 555 cases yesterday), 25 deaths
    - Tennessee - 505 (up from 371 cases yesterday), 1 death
    - Colorado - 591 (unchanged from 363 yesterday), 6 deaths
    - Pennsylvania - 479 (up from 371 cases yesterday), 2 deaths
    - Texas - 334 (up from 304 yesterday), 6 deaths
 
rareboy said:
So Ontario is ordering the closure of all non-essential businesses so tomorrow is the last day we'll be in the office, I suspect.
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Canada's numbers have remained low- probably because it has been limited to British Columbia so far. The case count went up 100 since this morning. I haven't been posting the breakdown by province because it hasn't seemed like it was going up but with NYC so close to Quebec and Ontario, it's just a matter of time.

Here's the current numbers for those interested:
  • Alberta - 259 cases, 1 death
  • British Columbia - 424 cases, 12 deaths
  • Manitoba - 20 cases
  • New Brunswick - 17 cases
  • Newfoundland/Labrador - 9 cases
  • Nova Scotia - 41 cases
  • Ontario - 503 cases, 5 deaths
  • Quebec - 219 cases, 4 deaths
  • Prince Edward Island - 3 cases
  • Saskatchewan - 52 cases

There's also 1 death of a Canadian citizen from Diamond Princess cruise ship.
 
New York did its update press conference this morning.

  • They have been testing about 16,000 people per day. By comparison, during South Korea's peak testing period, the Koreans did about 20,00 tests per day.
  • They've tested 78,000 people. Because of the broad testing done in NY, their case count is up to (20,875 = 26.8% of those tested) which also brought up the total US cases to 41,511.
  • They have 2,635 people in the hospital (about 13% of their cases). 621 of those hospitalized are in ICU beds (24%).
  • Because of the increased demand on hospitals, NY state has begun voluntarily recall of retired doctors and nurses. So far, 30,000 volunteer RNs/MDs/DOs have come forward to offer assistance if needed.

New York State has 158 hospitals licensed for ICU beds. According to stats given by Gov Cuomo, the state has about 3,000 ICU beds but would need between 18,000 to 37,000 ICU beds according to the current predictive models.
 
KaraBulut said:
Canada's numbers have remained low- probably because it has been limited to British Columbia so far. The case count went up 100 since this morning. I haven't been posting the breakdown by province because it hasn't seemed like it was going up but with NYC so close to Quebec and Ontario, it's just a matter of time.

Here's the current numbers for those interested:
  • Alberta - 259 cases, 1 death
  • British Columbia - 424 cases, 21 deaths
  • Manitoba - 20 cases
  • New Brunswick - 17 cases
  • Newfoundland/Labrador - 9 cases
  • Nova Scotia - 41 cases
  • Ontario - 503 cases, 5 deaths
  • Quebec - 219 cases, 4 deaths
  • Prince Edward Island - 3 cases
  • Saskatchewan - 52 cases

There's also 1 death of a Canadian citizen from Diamond Princess cruise ship.
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So for 40 million people, Canada's numbers are relatively low for the number of days elapsed...but I think that because everyone knows the math of exponential increases...we are now going to be as conservative as possible while we can still perhaps control the spike up.
 
rareboy said:
So for 40 million people, Canada's numbers are relatively low for the number of days elapsed...but I think that because everyone knows the math of exponential increases...we are now going to be as conservative as possible while we can still perhaps control the spike up.
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I haven't been able to find Canada's stats on how many tests they have done and what their positive result ratio has been. I also haven't seen metro breakdowns for Canada - I would be interested in those.

My assumption is that the Alberta numbers were high because of the oil industry and international workers around the Edmonton area.

British Columbia got hit early because of their proximity to the outbreak in the Seattle-Tacoma area.

I've been scratching my head at Canada's numbers, particularly Toronto and Montreal because these cities are close to the US border and have substantial population density. In spite of the propaganda about border closures being for the purpose of protecting the US, it's apparent from the stats that closing the border to non-essential traffic benefits Canada more than it does the US at this point.
 
in Australia,
alot of covid19 positive cases are people from the US visiting ...
 
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