On Topic Discussion 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2)

[KaraBulut]

26-Mar-2020:

Global COVID-19 Mortality/Morbidity
- Cases reported: 487,648 (up from 436,159) - 51,489 new cases yesterday
- Deaths: 22,030 (up from 19,648) - ** 2,382 people died yesterday

US COVID-19 Mortality/Morbidity
- Cases reported in the US - 69,197 cases (up from 55,238 yesterday, ‬ *13,959‬ new cases), 1,046 deaths

Across the globe:

• The case counts in Italy and Spain continue to fluctuate. Italy may be showing signs of lower growth which could indicate the social isolation measures are finally being to slow spread of the virus. The death count in Italy was 683.
• Spain had 655 deaths, France had 231 deaths. Iran had 157 deaths.
• UK is quickly joining the rest of Europe. The case count in the UK went up by 1,475 cases- this is the second day of double digit case increases

Coronavirus cases/deaths in major countries:

• Italy - 74,386 cases (up from 69,176) - 7,503 deaths.
• Spain - 56,188 (up from 47,610 cases) - 4,089 deaths
• Germany - 39,355 cases (up from 34,009 cases), 222 deaths
• Iran -29,406 cases (up from 27,017 cases) - 2,234 deaths
• France - 25,604 cases (up from 22,637 cases), 1,333 deaths
• Switzerland - 11,125 cases (up from 10,456 cases), 165 deaths
• UK - 9,642 cases (up from 8,167 cases), 467 deaths
• South Korea - 9,241 cases (from 9,137 cases) - 131 deaths
• Netherlands - 6,440 cases (up from 5,585 cases), 357 deaths
• Canada - 3,404 cases (up from 2,792), 35 deaths
• Australia - 2,810 cases (up from 2,364 cases) 13 deaths
• Mexico - 475 (up from 405 cases) 6 deaths
• New Zealand - 283 (up from 205 cases) 0 deaths

United States updates:

• The US is on its way to exceeding the 81,661 cases in China. Yesterday, the US reported 13,959 (up 25%) new cases which is higher than any other country, including Italy and Spain.
• Unemployment claims increased by 3.3 million people last week.
• In spite of all the bitching, Congress passed the stimulus bill overnight. The bill now goes to the House for a vote. Most House members are in their districts and at least 3 members have COVID-19, so the bill may have to pass "by unanimous consent" without an in-person vote.
• The US military is getting increasingly concerned about troops who live in close quarters. 280 service members have tested positive.
• 41 states, Puerto Rico and Guam have at least 1 death.
• Several state governors continue to refuse to impose state-wide stay at home orders. The governor of Mississippi has issued an order overriding local orders by mayors and city councils that imposed restrictions on public gatherings. Next door to Missisippi, in New Orleans they're running out of hospital beds.

Individual States with high case counts:

• New York - 30,811 (up from 25,665 cases), 285 deaths
• New Jersey - 4,402 (up from 3,675 case), 62 deaths
• Washington - 2,580 (up from 2,469 cases), 139 deaths
• California - 2,535 (up from 2,102 cases), 53 deaths
• Michigan - 2,294 (up from 1,791 cases), 43 deaths
• Illinois - 1,865 cases (up from 1,535 cases), 19 deaths
• Florida - 1,971 (up from 1,461 cases), 22 deaths
• Louisiana - 1,795 cases (up from 1,388 cases), 65 deaths
• Massachusetts - 1,838 (up from 1,159 cases), 15 deaths
• Georgia - 1,387 (up from 1,097 cases), 47 deaths
• Pennsylvania - 1,127 (up from 851 cases), 11 deaths
• Colorado - 1,086 (unchanged from 912), 19 deaths
• Texas - 974 (up from 715), 12 deaths
• Tennessee - 784 (up from 667 cases), 2 deaths
  

Canadian Province Stats:

• Alberta - 419 (up from 358 cases) 2 deaths
• British Columbia - 659 (up from 617 cases) 14 deaths
• Manitoba - 35 (up from 21 cases), 0 deaths
• New Brunswick - 18 (unchanged from 18 cases), 0 deaths
• Newfoundland/Labrador - 67 (up from 18 cases), 0 deaths
• Northwest Territories - 1 case, 0 deaths
• Nova Scotia - 68 (up from 51 cases), 0 deaths
• Ontario - 688 (up from 588 cases) 12 deaths
• Quebec - 1.342 (up from 1016 cases) 6 deaths
• Prince Edward Island - 5 (up from 3 cases) 0 deaths
• Saskatchewan - 86 (up from 72 cases) 0 deaths
• Yukon - 3 cases, 0 deaths

There were also 13 Canadians on the Grand Princess, one of whom died.

 

[KaraBulut]

Yes, this is America- where we claim to have the best healthcare system in the world...

NYC Nurse Who Treated COVID-19 Patients Dies as One Hospital Reports 13 Deaths in 24 Hours [NBC4-NY]

A New York City nurse who had been treating coronavirus patients has died just one week after he was admitted to the hospital, and as personal protective equipment for those in the frontlines starts to rapidly dwindle, concerns for the safety of medical professionals grow.

Mount Sinai West nursing manager Kious Jordan Kelly was hospitalized March 17 and he died Tuesday. He was in his 40s and colleagues described him as compassionate and devoted to his patients.

Worker at NYC hospital where nurses wear trash bags as protection dies from coronavirus [NY Post]

The shortage of safety gear at one Manhattan hospital is so dire that desperate nurses have resorted to wearing trash bags — and some blame the situation for the coronavirus death of a beloved colleague.

A stunning photo shared on social media shows three nurses at Mount Sinai West posing in a hallway while clad in large, black plastic trash bags fashioned into makeshift protective garb.

 

[belamyi]

Yes, this is America- where we claim to have the best healthcare system in the world...

Who doesn't: the USA, Sweden, Spain... Madrid... Catalonia...

 

[Telstra]

Amazing to hear how much support the doctors and nurses had while they work.
Meals already cooked and delivered to their doors ... etc:

 

[KaraBulut]

26-Mar-2020:

[*]The US military is getting increasingly concerned about troops who live in close quarters. 280 service members have tested positive.

Additional reporting on COVID-19 in the military. It's just amazing how many places the virus has reached and how quickly it spreads:
Rapid increase in coronavirus cases aboard US aircraft carrier [CNN]

There are now 23 sailors who have tested positive for the coronavirus aboard the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, just two days after the Pentagon announced that three sailors aboard the ship had tested positive for the virus, a Navy official has confirmed to CNN...

The Roosevelt is in the process of pulling into Guam, according to Modly. "No one on the crew will be allowed to leave anywhere into Guam, other than on pier side," he said.

The ship was last in port in Vietnam more than two weeks ago. It is not clear where the sailors initially contracted the virus. The Navy is now in the process of flying all personnel off the ship.

 

[rareboy]

^ Is this one of the reasons that the US now wants to place the army along the border with Canada? Spread them out?

Many of us have been waiting for the pretext that could be used to treat the longest undefended border in the world into another US/Mexico wall...I guess this is finally the pretext needed to militarize the 49th?

 

[KaraBulut]

The US will overtake Italy in the #2 spot in total cases by the end of the day. Within a few days, the US should exceed the number of cases in China (currently 81,782).

@9:26 PM GMT the stats are:

Total global cases: 523,163
Total global deaths: 23,639

Italy cases: 80,589
Italy deaths: 8,215

US cases: 80,021
US deaths: 1,136

 

[rareboy]

The US will overtake Italy in the #2 spot in total cases by the end of the day. Within a few days, the US should exceed the number of cases in China (currently 81,782).

@9:26 PM GMT the stats are:

Total global cases: 523,163
Total global deaths: 23,639

Italy cases: 80,589
Italy deaths: 8,215

US cases: 80,021
US deaths: 1,136

The US. Number One.

And this didn't have to be the case.

 

[ChristianGianni]

 

[Kahaih]

^ Is this one of the reasons that the US now wants to place the army along the border with Canada? Spread them out?

Many of us have been waiting for the pretext that could be used to treat the longest undefended border in the world into another US/Mexico wall...I guess this is finally the pretext needed to militarize the 49th?

I've read that there is a lot of concern about New York city people who, every year/summer, spread out across rural US and Canada, who, this season, will be taking/spreading the fruits of their cold-hearted cluster fuck lifestyles with them. Do Canadians have much to say about this potential mess?

 

[KaraBulut]

The US will overtake Italy in the #2 spot in total cases by the end of the day. Within a few days, the US should exceed the number of cases in China (currently 81,782).

I just saw around two hours ago that it already did:

82,451

The US. Number One.

And this didn't have to be the case.

We're losing ground to China is all other respects. Now the history books will have something to say about Trump other than "he got impeached".

The Chinese numbers have been still increasing but my guess was that US would take #1 on Saturday evening. NYC is really confounding the optimistic models- NY state is up to 37,877 cases at 11:53 PM GMT with 385 deaths. When I pulled stats 12 hours ago, New York had 30,811 cases and 285 deaths. New Jersey and Louisiana are bad, too.

This debacle will also become a case study for graduate students for years to come- whether it's public health, epidemiology, governmental studies, history or how-not-to-run-a-government.

Are ordinary Americans beginning to take this serious, or are they still in denial like Trump?

Judging by the empty shelves in our grocery stores, a lot of them have gotten the message that this is not a drill.

Two weeks ago, they cleared out all the toilet paper, hand sanitizer and Clorox wipes. Since then, they're buying up all the food as quickly as it gets stocked onto the shelves. I've seen a lot of things but I've never seen grocery store shelves that looked like this:

Hopefully, they will also get the message that we need to make sure that we have competent people in government for this very reason. The videos in the posts above of Trump and Cuomo tell the tale- all public servants should be able to handle a crisis like Cuomo has.

I've read that there is a lot of concern about New York city people who, every year/summer, spread out across rural US and Canada, who, this season, will be taking/spreading the fruits of their cold-hearted cluster fuck lifestyles with them. Do Canadians have much to say about this potential mess?

The governor of Florida has made some vague threats about testing people on planes from New York at the airport and putting them into quarantine. A travel expert today pointed out that there are over 100 flights from NY to Florida each day and each plane can carry up to 300 people.

Nevermind that there's this big highway called "I95" that runs from NY all the way down to Miami.

The governor of Florida is proving to be a blithering idiot.

 

[zoltanspawn]

This debacle will also become a case study for graduate students for years to come- whether it's public health, epidemiology, governmental studies, history or how-not-to-run-a-government.

Unfortunately, there is a fundamental problem with accepting credentialed, public, verifiable expertise ... well, in the whole world right now.

Graduate students, or really anyone with influence at all, can make all the studies they want of this.

They won't matter if everybody thinks their personal speculations are as valid as the work of genuinely informed observers.

 

[KaraBulut]

Unfortunately, there is a fundamental problem with accepting credentialed, public, verifiable expertise ... well, in the whole world right now.

These would be retrospective studies, like so many graduate studies are.

It's interesting- when we have a massive failure of government- like the Bay of Pigs or the management of Iraq after the overthrow of Hussein in 2003 - the academic analysis and study starts immediately after the failure.

Pandemics are more complicated. The events unfold so quickly and the damage is so random that it takes years or even decades to figure out what happened and to come up with recommendations on how to avoid a similar event in the future. There are still academics who are still trying to unravel the 1918 Influenza pandemic: it was global, it killed millions, it was in the middle of a World War and it was intentionally obscured by the wartime propaganda machine- which is how it got the name "Spanish Flu" even though it originated in America.

Thankfully, we have the WHO and we have the internet, so we're compiling data that can be reviewed retrospectively to figure out what happened. Right now, when I type up the stats in the post that I make each morning, the numbers often change in the middle of my efforts to compile the data... that's how fast things are happening.

One event in the 1918 pandemic that has been cited very often in the past couple weeks is a 1918 War Bond Parade that happened in Philadelphia. Over 200,000 people attended. Within a couple of weeks, over 5,000 people were dead from influenza. Entire families died. People were reduced to leaving bodies on the curb to be hauled away and buried in mass graves. These are the kinds of failures we will be studying regarding COVID-19, asking "What if..." and looking at the good and bad choices being made in different levels of government.

 

[Yooper]

I work for an 'essential' retailer. I have no problem with this. However, what I'm seeing is bored customers coming in to the operation to 'look around.' No respect whatsoever for those of us working 8-10+ hour days trying to keep the shelves stocked with 'essential' things.

We also sell thousands of things I'd consider 'non-essential.' Fertilizer and mulch for your yard and garden; house paint; spray paint; patio lighting, furniture and fire pits; the list goes on and on. Come on, do you really need to drop off your old paint for recycling when you're under a stay-at-home order? That old paint has been in your garage or basement for years, and you need it gone NOW? Seriously, folks: we're here in case you need parts to fix your toilet, not to change your bedroom decor right now. Honestly, when paint becomes your #2 selling category after cleaning supplies, what the heck?

For all of those out there under a stay-at-home order with hundreds of loopholes, please follow the spirit of the order and please stay at home unless you absolutely must have something that protects your health or safety. Everything else CAN wait.

**Rant over. I feel a little better. Cough.**

 

[Rickrock]

Your comment hits the spot about what I was thinking about today. We have had a couple of nicer weather days and I was looking for things to do. I was looking at a brown spot in our front yard and thinking it might be nice to reseed that part of the lawn. However, I did refrain from going out and buying lawn seed because of the stay at home order.

 

[Dominus]

Wow, guys, I can't believe the US actually made it to first place in the number of confirmed cases.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/26/usa-now-has-more-coronavirus-cases-than-either-china-or-italy.html

 

[Yooper]

Your comment hits the spot about what I was thinking about today. We have had a couple of nicer weather days and I was looking for things to do. I was looking at a brown spot in our front yard and thinking it might be nice to reseed that part of the lawn. However, I did refrain from going out and buying lawn seed because of the stay at home order.

Thank you! An addition to my little rant though: Many 'essential retailers'--including me--are offering curbside pickup or free delivery to your front porch! Order online! Because my place of employment is a local retailer with a national footprint, our website is offering either option for free in an effort to keep your grass seed coming, allow you to socially distance and still enjoy your yard and garden and backyard BBQ. Plus, as employees 'in the trenches' we might not have to deal face to face with everyone! We check our online orders at :30 past the hour; usually fulfill them in the next 15 minutes and our owner puts the deliveries in the truck and takes them to customer's front door--or other place upon request--by the top of each hour.

Plus, if there's a problem with an order--and with out of stock an issue these days--we have a neat invention called a Telephone! We'll call you to resolve any issue! So if your toilet's leaking, call us, and we'll try to help! (You can also call and order that 5 gallons of paint to do your living room, too, while you are under that stay-at-home order! Just might take a few hours to get it all mixed up and delivered, but that'll give you time to watch The View or whatever else floats your boat while you're waiting.)

 

[sixthson]

I was in a grocery store today. Other than toilet paper, everything was overflowing with bounty, including produce, dairy, eggs and meat. The upscale grocery stores, like Lunds/Byerly's had tp.

 

[Yooper]

deleted double post

edit: We're Number One

 

[metta]

The number of coronavirus cases in California has surged past 3,000, and officials say the growth rate is so big that it could overwhelm hospitals in the coming days and weeks.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/c...larming-officials-cases-top-3-000/ar-BB11Kpl5


Nearly half of all patients at Kaiser hospital in San Jose believed to have coronavirus
https://ktla.com/news/california/ne...tal-in-san-jose-believed-to-have-coronavirus/


Trump Wants to ‘Reopen America.’ Here’s What Happens if We Do.
(It will take an estimated 90 days to flatten it)
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/25/opinion/coronavirus-trump-reopen-america.html