On Topic Discussion 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2)

[Telstra]

I don't believe NY mass burials are anything unusual, but lots of people are reporting it as though it's a shocking new covid-related horror. It seems probable that mass burial sites like the one in the picture will receive more use during the pandemic, but it's not out of the ordinary.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/05/15/nyregion/new-york-mass-graves-hart-island.html

Not shocking considering the number of dead.
I real mass burial is when they bury without wooden boxes ?

 

[KaraBulut]

I don't believe NY mass burials are anything unusual, but lots of people are reporting it as though it's a shocking new covid-related horror. It seems probable that mass burial sites like the one in the picture will receive more use during the pandemic, but it's not out of the ordinary.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/05/15/nyregion/new-york-mass-graves-hart-island.html

This is a fascinating article. The Times does such great stories like this.

The thing that is startling about the mass burials that have started in NYC is the volume. Spain has so many dead that they're using ice rinks as morgues. NYC has been using refrigerator trucks and if the body is not claimed after a certain time, it's sent to Hart Island for potter's field burial.

The AP and BBC stories made a note about the volume of burials though:

Coronavirus: New York ramps up mass burials amid outbreak [BBC]

Normally, about 25 bodies a week are interred on the island, according to the Associated Press news agency.

But burial operations have increased from one day a week to five days a week, with around 24 burials each day, said Department of Correction spokesman Jason Kersten.

 

[KaraBulut]

In an earlier post, there was a mention of gamma globulin and convalescent plasma for treating the acutely ill COVID-19 patients. This is not a new therapy- it's been done for many years in various forms to treat various diseases; since SARS-CoV-2 is a novel virus, they weren't sure that it would be effective against the virus. The early results of the research does show promise.

Below are a couple of articles about some of the investigation studies being done at one of the centers involved in testing:

Plasma treatment showing promise in Houston coronavirus patients [Click2Houston]

Coronavirus: Experimental Blood-Transfusion Therapy May Offer Promise for Critically Ill Patients [Houston Methodist]

 

[eddielee]

I thought I'd check in and say hello to everyone so they would know I'm still alive. Like many people, I'm following stay at home orders.

 

[zoltanspawn]

KaraBulut, Dr. Fauci has recently been talking about imminent antibody testing. Do you have any comment about whether such antibody testing will measure the number of antibodies? Or, will the serological testing merely identify the presence of antibodies? Something else?

 

[smokeshadow]

An advantage to the stay-in-place orders. . .spam voice mails and unwanted solicitation phone calls have dropped dramatically. On a typical weekday, my landline would receive anywhere from 10 to 15 spam calls, all going to voice mail; while my cell probably averaged 2 to 3 calls a day. Now, I'm lucky to receive 2 on my landline and none on my cell I guess the call centers weren't considered essential

 

[KaraBulut]

KaraBulut, Dr. Fauci has recently been talking about imminent antibody testing. Do you have any comment about whether such antibody testing will measure the number of antibodies? Or, will the serological testing merely identify the presence of antibodies? Something else?

In general, there's two types of tests - qualitative (yes/no?) and quantitative (how much?). Antibody tests are qualitative, so they're just looking at whether you've developed antibodies.

The reason that a qualitative test would be done is that antibodies are specific to different viruses and bacteria. For example, if you have received a measles immunization, you will have antibodies that can attack measles virus. It would be very complicated to extract antibodies and figure out which how much of the antibodies are for different things - e.g. coronavirus, measles, mumps, etc. Instead, the blood test for antibodies takes a specific part of a virus or bacteria and looks to see if your blood plasma reacts to it- the answer to the test would be "yes" or "no", so it would be a qualitative test.

The antibody tests for the COVID19 coronavirus would tell us two things: whether you've already had an exposure to the virus and whether you've developed antibodies. The immune response is a little more complicated than just antibodies but the hope is that with the prior exposure, your immune system has "memorized" the virus and if there's another exposure to the virus, your immune system would quickly wipe out the virus so that you didn't develop the full COVID-19 illness.

 

[KaraBulut]

11-Apr-2020:

Global COVID-19 Mortality/Morbidity
- Cases reported: 1,715,143 (up from 1,611,981) - *‬**‬‬***‬103,162 new cases yesterday
- Deaths: 104,800 (up from 96,783) - **‬**8,017‬ people died yesterday

US COVID-19 Mortality/Morbidity
- Cases reported in the US - 501,680 cases (up from 466,299 yesterday, ‬***‬‬‬‬‬**35,381 new cases)
- Deaths reported in the US - 18,780 deaths, **2,094 new deaths yesterday, 26% of the world's new deaths were in the US

NY state and NYC COVID-19 Mortality/Morbidity (as of 11AM yesterday)
- Cases reported in NY state - 161,807 (up from 159,937 / +1,870)
- Cases reported in NYC - 94,409 (up from 81,803 / +4,927‬), in hospitals: 25,920
- Deaths reported in NYC - 5,429 (up from 4,571),
- Persons tested in NY state - 417,885 (391,549 tested prior day- 26,336 new tests)

Coronavirus cases/deaths in active countries (preference to countries with JUB members):

• Spain - 161,852 (up from 157,022 / 3.1%) - 16,353 deaths
• Italy - 147,577 cases (up 143,626 / 2.8%) - 18,849 deaths
• France - 125,931 cases (up from 118,785 / 6.0%) - 13,215 deaths
• Germany - 122,530 cases (up from 118,235 / 3.6%) - 2,736 deaths
• Iran - 70,029 cases (up from 66,220 / 5.8%) - 4,357 deaths
• UK - 74,608 cases (up from 65,872 / 13.3%) - 9,891 deaths
• Turkey - 47,029 cases (up from 42,282 / 11.2%) - 1,006 deaths
• Switzerland - 24,900 cases (up from 24,172 / 3.0%) - 1,003 deaths
• Netherlands - 24,565 cases (up from 21,910 / 12.1%) - 2,652 deaths
• Canada - 22,148 cases (up from 20,765 / 6.7%) - 570 deaths
• Brazil - 19,943 (up from 18,176 cases / 9.7%) - 1,074 deaths
• India - 7,876 (up from 6,771 / 16.3%) - 249 deaths
• Ireland - 8,089 (up from 6,574 / 23.0%) - 287 deaths
• Australia - 6,292 cases (up from 6,204 / 1.4%) - 56 deaths
• Japan - 6,005 (up from 5,530 / 8.6%) - 99 deaths
• Mexico - 3,844 (up from 3,441 / 11.7%) - 233 deaths
• New Zealand - 1,312 (up from 1,283 / 2.3%) - 4 deaths

Coronavirus cases/deaths in recovering countries:

• China - 83,014 (up from 82,940 / %) - 3,343 deaths / 77,877 recovered
• South Korea - 10,480 cases (up from 10,450 / %) - 211 deaths / 7,243 recovered

Individual States with high case counts:

• New York - 174,489 (up from 151,079 / 7.8%) - 7,887 deaths
• New Jersey - 54,588 (up from 47,437 / 7.0%) - 1,932 deaths
• Michigan - 22,434 (up from 21,504 / 4.3%) - 1,276 deaths
• California - 21,408 (up from 20,169 / 6.1%) - 599 deaths
• Louisiana - 19,253 cases (up from 18,283 / 5.3%) - 755 deaths
• Florida - 17,968 (up from 16,826 / 6.8%) - 419 deaths
• Massachusetts - 20,974 (up from 18,941 / 10.7%) - 599 deaths
• Pennsylvania - 20,408 (up from 18,633 / 9.5%) - 449 deaths
• Illinois - 17,903 (up from 16,424 / 9.0%) - 597 deaths
• Washington - 10,221 (up from 9,753 / 4.8%) - 484 deaths
• Texas - 12,397 (up from 11,483 / 8.0%) - 248 deaths
• Georgia - 11,859 (up from 10,885 / 8.9%) - 425 deaths
• Connecticut - 10,538 (up from 9,784 / 7.7%) - 448 deaths
• Maryland - 6,968 (up from 6,185 / 12.7%) - 171 deaths
• Colorado - 6,513 (up from 6,202 / 5.0%) - 250 deaths
• Tennessee - 4,891 (down from 4,634 / 5.5%) - 98 deaths
• Mississippi - 2,469 (up from 2,260 / 9.2%) - 82 deaths

Canadian Province Stats:

• Alberta - 1,500 (up from 1,451 / 3.4%) - 39 deaths
• British Columbia - 1,410 (up from 1,370 / 2.9%) - 55 deaths
• Manitoba - 230 (up from 224 / 2.7%) - 4 deaths
• New Brunswick - 112 (up from 111 / 0.9%) - 0 deaths
• Newfoundland/Labrador - 239 (up from 236 / 1.3%) - 3 deaths
• Northwest Territories - 5 (unchanged from 5) - 0 deaths
• Nova Scotia - 407 (up from 373 / 9.1%) - 2 deaths
• Ontario - 6,237 (up from 5,759 / 8.3%) - 222 deaths
• Quebec - 11,677 (up from 10,912 / 7.0%) - 241 deaths
• Prince Edward Island - 25 (unchanged from 25) - 0 deaths
• Saskatchewan - 285 (up from 278 / 2.5%) - 3 deaths
• Yukon - 8 (up from 7) - 0 deaths

There were also 13 Canadians on the Grand Princess, one of whom died.

 

[rareboy]

And here we are.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Smtxmou2uJ9pV0-og7IEXiAFlLjmNZZLmS7LgkAZcMk8c

 

[KaraBulut]

12-Apr-2020:

Global COVID-19 Mortality/Morbidity
- Cases reported: 1,789,985 (up from 1,715,143) - *‬**‬‬***‬74,842 new cases yesterday
- Deaths: 109,823 (up from 104,800) - **‬**‬5,023 people died yesterday

US COVID-19 Mortality/Morbidity
- Cases reported in the US - 530,006 cases (up from 501,680 yesterday, ‬***‬‬‬‬‬**35,381 new cases)
- Deaths reported in the US - 20,608 deaths, **1,828 new deaths yesterday, 36% of the world's new deaths were in the US

NY state and NYC COVID-19 Mortality/Morbidity (as of 11AM yesterday)
- Cases reported in NY state - 174,489 (up from 161,807 / )
- Cases reported in NYC - 98,308 (up from 94,409 / +4,927‬),
- Deaths reported in NYC - 6,202 (up from 5,429),
- Persons tested in NY state - 440,980 (417,885 tested prior day- 23,095 new tests) positive - 40%

Coronavirus cases/deaths in active countries (preference to countries with JUB members):

• Spain - 166,019 (up from 161,852 / 2.6%) - 16,972 deaths
• Italy - 152,271 cases (up 147,577 / 2.8%) - 19,468 deaths
• France - 130,730 cases (up from 125,931 / 3.8%) - 13,851 deaths
• Germany - 125,452 cases (up from 122,530 / 2.4%) - 2,871 deaths
• Iran - 71,686 cases (up from 70,029 / 2.4%) - 4,474 deaths
• UK - 79,885 cases (up from 74,608 / 7.1%) - 9,892 deaths
• Turkey - 52,167 cases (up from 47,029 / 10.9%) - 1,101 deaths
• Switzerland - 25,300 cases (up from 24,900 / 1.6%) - 1,081 deaths
• Netherlands - 24,572 cases (up from 24,565 ) - 2,747 deaths
• Canada - 23,316 cases (up from 22,148 / 5.3%) - 654 deaths
• Brazil - 20,964 (up from 19,943 cases / 5.1%) - 1,141 deaths
• India - 8,504 (up from 7,876 / 8.0%) - 289 deaths
• Ireland - 8,928 (up from 8,089 / 10.4%) - 320 deaths
• Australia - 6,315 cases (up from 6,292 / 0.4%) - 60 deaths
• Japan - 6,748 (up from 6,005 / 12.4%) - 108 deaths
• Mexico - 4,219 (up from 3,844 / 9.8%) - 273 deaths
• New Zealand - 1,330 (up from 1,312 / 1.4%) - 4 deaths

Coronavirus cases/deaths in recovering countries:

• China - 83,482 (up from 83,014 / 0.1%) - 3,343 deaths / 77,953 recovered
• South Korea - 10,512 cases (up from 10,480/ 0.3%) - 214 deaths / 7,368 recovered

Individual States with high case counts:

• New York - 181,825 (up from 174,489 / 4.2%) - 8,650 deaths
• New Jersey - 58,151 (up from 54,588 / 6.5%) - 2,183 deaths
• Michigan - 23,605 (up from 22,434 / 5.2%) - 1,384 deaths
• California - 22,416 (up from 21,408 / 4.7%) - 634 deaths
• Louisiana - 20,014 cases (up from 19,253 / 4.0%) - 806 deaths
• Florida - 18,986 (up from 17,968 / 5.7%) - 446 deaths
• Massachusetts - 22,860 (up from 20,974 / 9.0%) - 686 deaths
• Pennsylvania - 21,942 (up from 20,408 / 7.5%) - 530 deaths
• Illinois - 19,180 (up from 17,903 / 7.1%) - 677 deaths
• Washington - 10,416 (up from 10,221 / 1.9%) - 496 deaths
• Texas - 13,354 (up from 12,397 / 7.7%) - 273 deaths
• Georgia - 12,261 (up from 11,859 / 3.4%) - 433 deaths
• Connecticut - 11,510 (up from 10,538 / 9.2%) - 494 deaths
• Maryland - 7,694 (up from 6,968 / 10.4%) - 206 deaths
• Colorado - 6,893 (up from 6,513 / 5.8%) - 274 deaths
• Tennessee - 5,132 (up from 4,891 / 4.9%) - 106 deaths
• Mississippi - 2,642 (up from 2,469 / 7.0%) - 93 deaths

Canadian Province Stats:

• Alberta - 1,567 (up from 1,500 / 4.6%) - 40 deaths
• British Columbia - 1,445 (up from 1,410 / 2.6%) - 58 deaths
• Manitoba - 243 (up from 230 / 5.8%) - 4 deaths
• New Brunswick - 112 (unchanged from 112) - 0 deaths
• Newfoundland/Labrador - 241 (up from 239 / 0.8%) - 3 deaths
• Northwest Territories - 5 (unchanged from 5) - 0 deaths
• Nova Scotia - 428 (up from 407 / 5.6%) - 2 deaths
• Ontario - 6,648 (up from 6,237 / 7.1%) - 253 deaths
• Quebec - 12,292 (up from 11,677 / 5.6%) - 289 deaths
• Prince Edward Island - 25 (unchanged from 25) - 0 deaths
• Saskatchewan - 289 (up from 285 / 1.4%) - 4 deaths
• Yukon - 8 (unchanged from 8) - 0 deaths

There were also 13 Canadians on the Grand Princess, one of whom died.

 

[KaraBulut]

During the outbreak in NYC, the FDNY and NYPD have been hit hard by the virus.

Covid-19's devastating toll on the NYPD [CNN]

The New York City Police Department has reached a critical point. The Covid-19 scourge has eroded the ranks of a noble department that weathered the Civil War, the 1918 influenza pandemic, the stock market crash in 1929, World Wars I and II and the September 11 terrorist attacks.

In a department of about 36,000 sworn officers, 7,096 -- or 19.6% of the uniformed workforce -- were out sick on Friday, according to data issued by the NYPD. Some 2,314 uniformed members and 453 civilian employees have tested positive for Covid-19, and 19 employees have lost their lives as a result of the virus.

The NYPD suffered an incomprehensible 23 losses on 9/11 (hundreds more died in subsequent years from 9/11-related illnesses). It's devastating to think that the casualties from Covid-19 may soon eclipse this.

 

[mikey3000]

Re: The Death List 2020

From CDC Website: Hospitals to List COVID-19 as Cause of Death Even if It’s “Assumed to Have Caused Or Contributed to Death” – Lab Tests Not Required

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...lab-tests-not-required/?utm_source=whatfinger

 

[KaraBulut]

Re: The Death List 2020

From CDC Website: Hospitals to List COVID-19 as Cause of Death Even if It’s “Assumed to Have Caused Or Contributed to Death” – Lab Tests Not Required

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...lab-tests-not-required/?utm_source=whatfinger

Hospitals don't determine cause of death. Attending physicians do. Attending physicians also determine the diagnosis for the death certificate. The ICD codes are used by the medical records coders who prepare the billing and State reporting.

The ICD code and CDC guidelines were requested by medical examiners because it can take up to 2 weeks to get a SAR-CoV-2 test back from the CDC or State Health Department. These patients are dying so quickly that the medical examiners and State Health Departments can't gather accurate statistics. For the past month, medical examiners across the US have been complaining that they are under-reporting COVID-19 deaths because they don't have a confirmed test result back. The new guidance has instructions for collection of a specimen during autopsy or after the patient dies but it allows the COVID-19 comorbidity to be listed based upon the clinical evidence, not a pending test result.

There's a new ICD code that hospitals will be using to code bills when the patient's physician has indicated that the deceased patient died of pneumonia or ARDS and there's a likely COVID-19 diagnosis. From the very beginning, a radiology study of the chest has been the definitive diagnostic tool because it takes too long to wait for the laboratory test result. There's also studies coming out that about 25% of patients who have COVID-19 have a negative test result- probably because the swab specimen was not collected properly; this is why the radiology study and the patient's presentation are always going to be the determinant of the diagnosis.

This is why we have journalists- professionals who try to understand the issue and why a guidance was giving instead of writing blog posts that misinterpret the story.

US coronavirus death count likely an underestimate. Here's why [CNN]

Health experts are warning the national count of Covid-19 deaths in the United States could be underestimated as the coronavirus pandemic continues to spread.

This could be especially true because the reporting data can lag by an average of one to two weeks, according to the latest guidance from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's.

Also, deaths due to Covid-19 "may be misclassified as pneumonia deaths in the absence of positive test results, and pneumonia may appear on death certificates as a comorbid condition," the CDC noted, adding that "analyses to better understand and quantify reporting delays" for Covid-19 deaths and "related causes" are underway. In March, the CDC introduced a new code to accurately capture mortality due to Covid-19 on death certificates.

Here's the CDC interim guidance:
Collection and Submission of Postmortem Specimens from Deceased Persons with Known or Suspected COVID-19, March 2020 (Interim Guidance)

 

[KaraBulut]

Over the past week, South Dakota's coronavirus case numbers jumped from 90 on 30-March to 626 today. Now we know why:

One of the largest pork processing facilities in the US is closing until further notice [CNN]

The Sioux Falls, South Dakota, facility accounts for 4% to 5% of the country's pork production and employs about 3,700 people, according to Smithfield.

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem said during a Saturday news briefing that Smithfield employees accounted for more than half of the active coronavirus cases in the state. About 240 employees are sick, she said, out of roughly 430 active cases in the state. Because of that, she and the mayor of Sioux Falls recommended that Smithfield suspend operations for at least two weeks.

The problem extends beyond South Dakota. Meat processors in Iowa and Pennsylvania have also shut their doors because of sick employees.

 

[Telstra]

question,
when you bury a dead body with the virus,
is that mean the virus stays there for a very long time (years and years) and is waiting to infect ?

 

[Telstra]

Indonesian University said they might have over 1 million people infected,
they don't have enough testing and not counting of the dead properly .... thats why the numbers are low.

 

[KaraBulut]

13-Apr-2020:

Global COVID-19 Mortality/Morbidity
- Cases reported: 1,863,406 (up from 1,789,985) - *‬**‬‬****73,421‬ new cases yesterday
- Deaths: 114,983 (up from 109,823) - **‬***5,160‬ people died yesterday

US COVID-19 Mortality/Morbidity
- Cases reported in the US - 557,590 cases (up from 530,006 yesterday, ‬***‬‬‬‬‬**35,381 new cases)
- Deaths reported in the US - 22,109 deaths, **1,501 new deaths yesterday, 29% of the world's new deaths were in the US

NY state and NYC COVID-19 Mortality/Morbidity (as of 11AM yesterday)
- Cases reported in NY state - 188,694 (up from 174,489 / +14,205‬)
- Cases reported in NYC - 103,208 (up from 98,308 / +4,900‬)
- Deaths reported in NYC - 6,717 (up from 6,202 / +515)
- Persons tested in NY state - 461,406 (440,980 tested prior day- 20,426 new tests) positive - %41

Coronavirus cases/deaths in active countries (preference to countries with JUB members):

• Spain - 169,496 (up from 166,019 / 2.6%) - 17,489 deaths
• Italy - 156,363 cases (up 152,271 / 2.8%) - 19,899 deaths
• France - 133,672 cases (up from 130,730 / 2.3%) - 14,393 deaths
• Germany - 127,854 cases (up from 125,452 / 2.4%) - 3,022 deaths
• UK - 85,212 cases (up from 79,885 / 6.7%) - 10,612 deaths
• Turkey - 56,956 cases (up from 52,167 / 9.2%) - 1,198 deaths
• Switzerland - 25,503 cases (up from 25,300 / 0.8%) - 1,117 deaths
• Netherlands - 25,746 cases (up from 24,572 / 4.8%) - 2,737 deaths
• Canada - 24,380 cases (up from 23,316 / 4.6%) - 717 deaths
• Brazil - 22,318 (up from 20,964 cases / 6.5%) - 1,230 deaths
• India - 9,240 (up from 8,504 / 8.7%) - 331 deaths
• Ireland - 9,655 (up from 8,928 / 8.1%) - 334 deaths
• Japan - 7,370 (up from 6,748 / 9.2%) - 123 deaths
• Australia - 6,351 cases (up from 6,315 / 0.6%) - 61 deaths
• Mexico - 4,661 (up from 4,219 / 10.5%) - 296 deaths
• New Zealand - 1,349 (up from 1,330 / 1.4%) - 4 deaths

Coronavirus cases/deaths in recovering countries:

• China - (up from 83,482 / 0.1%) - 3,345 deaths / 78,036 recovered
• Iran - 71,686 cases (up from 71,686) - 4,474 deaths / 45,983 recovered (did not update on Sunday)
• South Korea - cases (up from 10,512 / 0.2%) - 217 deaths / 7,447 recovered

Individual States with high case counts:

• New York - 190,288 (up from 181,825 / 4.7%) - 9,385 deaths
• New Jersey - 61,850 (up from 58,151 / 6.4%) - 2,350 deaths
• Michigan - 24,244 (up from 23,605 / 2.7%) - 1,479 deaths
• California - 23,311 (up from 22,416 / 4.0%) - 682 deaths
• Louisiana - 20,595 cases (up from 20,014 / 2.9%) - 840 deaths
• Florida - 19,895 (up from 18,986 / 4.8%) - 461 deaths
• Massachusetts - 25,475 (up from 22,860 / 11.4%) - 756 deaths
• Pennsylvania - 22,997 (up from 21,942 / 4.8%) - 557 deaths
• Illinois - 20,852 (up from 19,180 / 8.7%) - 720 deaths
• Texas - 13,886 (up from 13,354 / 4.0%) - 296 deaths
• Georgia - 12,550 (up from 12,261 / 2.4%) - 442 deaths
• Connecticut - 12,035 (up from 11,510 / 4.6%) - 554 deaths
• Washington - 10,530 (up from 10,416 / 1.1%) - 510 deaths
• Maryland - 8,225 (up from 7,694 / 6.9%) - 235 deaths
• Colorado - 7,307 (up from 6,893 / 6.0%) - 289 deaths
• Tennessee - 5,508 (up from 5,132 / 7.3%) - 106 deaths
• Mississippi - 2,781 (up from 2,642 / 5.3%) - 96 deaths

Canadian Province Stats:

• Alberta - 1,648 (up from 1,567 / 5.2%) - 44 deaths
• British Columbia - 1,445 (up from 1,445 / %) - 58 deaths (BC doesn't update on Sundays)
• Manitoba - 242 (down from 243) - 4 deaths
• New Brunswick - 114 (up from 112 / 1.8%) - 0 deaths
• Newfoundland/Labrador - 242 (up from 241 / 0.4%) - 3 deaths
• Northwest Territories - 5 (unchanged from 5) - 0 deaths
• Nova Scotia - 445 (up from 428 / 4.0%) - 2 deaths
• Ontario - 7,049 (up from 6,648 / 6.0%) - 274 deaths
• Quebec - 12,846 (up from 12,292 / 4.5%) - 328 deaths
• Prince Edward Island - 25 (unchanged from 25) - 0 deaths
• Saskatchewan - 298 (up from 289 / 3.1%) - 4 deaths
• Yukon - 8 (unchanged from 8) - 0 deaths

There were also 13 Canadians on the Grand Princess, one of whom died.

 

[KaraBulut]

Some sad news from the USS Theodore Roosevelt:

Sailor aboard USS Theodore Roosevelt dies of coronavirus [CNN]

A sailor who tested positive for Covid-19 on the USS Theodore Roosevelt has died of coronavirus, the US Navy said Monday.

The Navy did not disclose the name of the sailor, who was admitted to the intensive care unit of a US Navy hospital on Thursday. CNN previously reported a sailor from the USS Theodore Roosevelt who tested positive for the virus March 30 was found unresponsive and placed in the intensive care unit during a daily medical check.

The Navy said that the sailors who found him unresponsive attempted to administer CPR prior to his being transferred to the intensive care unit.

In addition, a US defense official told CNN that four sailors from the ship have been transferred to hospital.

 

[rareboy]

^ Somehow it is shocking that they were found unresponsive...but in a number of cases, the disease seems to progress so rapidly resulting in death.

I see that 80% of the crew are positive for COVID.

 

[KaraBulut]

^ Somehow it is shocking that they were found unresponsive...but in a number of cases, the disease seems to progress so rapidly resulting in death.

I see that 80% of the crew are positive for COVID.

You picked up on the same odd things about the report that I did.

From what I've been able to piece together from different stories, the Navy began to slowly evacuate soldiers who tested positive in the last part of March. In this thread, there was a story on 26-Mar saying that there were 23 soldiers who tested positive on the USS TR. On 31-Mar, the incident blew up with the captain's letter.

At some point, 3,000+ sailors were removed from the ship. Many of them were on Guam in residential quarantine with 5 men to a unit. It sounds like this sailor was found unresponsive in one of those 5 man units and there's a mention of CPR being done which means that there are more people with exposures.

There's still 1,000 men on the ship, too. It has nuclear reactors and weapons.

There's mention about tests that are still pending on the crew in several of the stories. At some point in March, test kits were airlifted to the ship. It's mid-April. We still don't have a clear number of how many soldiers were tested, how many tested positive and what the status of those positive soldiers is. This is probably the clearest statement that I've seen (it's from the Military Times article that I linked above):

As of Sunday, 92 percent of Roosevelt’s 4,800 crew members have been tested for COVID-19. There have been 585 positive results. More than 3,900 sailors have since been moved ashore and entered 14-day isolations in hotels and other rooms across Guam, according to the Navy.

This story mentions that 999 service members have tested positive across the entire Navy service. It also mentions how many souls were aboard the USS TR which is a rare mention of the complement of a particular ship.

The TR is unique among military commands during the coronavirus pandemic, as a cluster aboard the ship prompted universal testing for the crew. At latest count, more than 10 percent of the carrier’s 4,800 sailors tested positive.

Since Trump took office, we've had 6- SIX!- Secretaries of the Navy, 4 of whom were in an acting capacity. The single person who was the only confirmed Secretary, Richard Spencer, was fired in November, 2019 (5 months ago) over the dustup around former Navy Seal Eddie Gallagher.

Once upon a time, the military seemed to have its act together. Since Jim Mattis was forced out, it looks more and more and more like the rest of the Trump Administration. The mantra of US military has always been "put the troops first". What happened with the USS TR doesn't seem to be consistent with that value.