A thought or two regarding JUB's forums...

[LilBit]

You're very correct.

Everyone does have a place here, no matter what their opinions are.








Well, except for that cunt LilBit...

I suppose you expect me to cry now.

 

[frankfrank]

((^#3 - Of course illgetbi expects you to cry. You're cute when you cry. -))

Thanks for the thoughts, Flash...interestingly I made a post similar to yours last night in another thread. I even used the term "lighten up" - it was in a thread where the title/original posting used a controversial (not obscene) word where another word would have been a better choice, and the guy who made the thread got jumped all over upon.

I agree entirely with your post, even incuding those few people in CE & P whose opinions I find to be egregious and never or rarely anything I agree with. I've never put anybody on Ignore no matter how much I disagreed.

 

[EJMichaels]

Good post, Flash. I was surprised (okay, not really surprised) to see a few threads recently that started out with nonpolitical, sexy topics and somehow crashed and burned. Maybe we should contact IGB to come over and help at times like that.

 

[Seasoned]

Healthy disagreement is good. Personal attacks are out of line.

 

[gsdx]

That's why I've been backing off these past few days. I hate to say it, but there's been a lot of talk about 'bullying' these past few months, but not many realise that it goes on right here in JUB except those who are being bullied.

 

[martin6]

Well, i guess if there's a place for everyone and all thoughts, then there's a place for people to be pissed about those thoughts. Right?

 

[LilBit]

I certainly wouldn't want this to be a place where everyone agreed with each other, but there's definitely a difference between healthy disagreement and . Some people need to learn to use the ignore feature.

 

[Joshua_me]

Well, i guess if there's a place for everyone and all thoughts, then there's a place for people to be pissed about those thoughts. Right?

That was remarkably profound, Sam.

Now let's see your cock.

 

[Mike68]

Yes lately there have been posts that make me miss my lurker days when folks like RobbieAdam, DPNice,etc. were here.

Perhaps on those threads where a person is putting something down, instead of saying "this (whatever) is gross/wrong/distasteful" they can instead approach it as "this (whatever) to me is gross/wrong/distasteful."

One of the things that rang true when I did collections for 11 years was that it wasn't what you said, its how you said it.

Thats my 2 cents about tactful discourse anyway.

 

[Odyssey Number 5]

I have been a member here for a lot of years and although I don't post all that much any more, I feel it necessary to say something that has been on my mind for a while now. JUB is made up of men and women from most continents, every race and ethnicity, the whole socio-economic soup that makes up the gay community. And I think that some of us here tend to forget that. We have forums on JUB so everyone can have their say about anything in a safe, comfortable environment.
If you have read my postings, you know that I can be just as rude and thoughtless as anyone else in responding to someone with a different opinion. But what concerns me is that lately some of us seem to feel that others have no place here, or can be attacked because of their take on things. That to me is simply not right. Every single person who takes the time to post in a forum has every right to express his or her opinion on anything. Anything. Sometimes it's brilliant; sometimes not. That you or I might find it distasteful or annoying or just downright stupid is to be expected when a large chunk of the world is spouting off. But I look at it this way; the gay community is considerably more diverse than many of us are comfortable with. But we don't need to flog ourselves when we differ; there are lots of people outside our community who are only to happy to do that. So bottom line is... try to lighten up a bit. I promise I will. End of rant...

I agree 100%

 

[Mike68]

Uh-huh.

Like this?

Well yes. And I still stand by that assessment....Well to me anyway..

 

[Joshua_me]

Those of us who have been here forever and a day, (moi) remember a kinder, gentler JUB...

It was a sort of meeting place where gay men of all ages could share their feelings openly and honestly without fear of judgment or retaliation.

That part of JUB still exists - There are plenty of very kind and cool people here - but there is also another aspect of these boards that has crept in over the years.

The "trolls", the guys with two or more different names, the newer and presumably very young members who get a kick out of saying the most offensive things possible to make them feel better about themselves.

Listen. Online everyone has a pair of brass ones. These boards are free and public and you can't really help who is going to show up. It's just like the "real world", there is never a shortage of assholes.

But you know, I choose not let let them get me down and nether should anyone reading this. I love JUB. There's a reason I've been addicted to this place for so long. It remains a collection of intelligent and colorful characters of all ages. And besides that, it's just plain fun.

I'm not about to let a handful of asshats ruin that for me.

 

[MJEH89]

We have forums on JUB so everyone can have their say about anything in a safe, comfortable environment. But what concerns me is that lately some of us seem to feel that others have no place here, or can be attacked because of their take on things. That to me is simply not right. Every single person who takes the time to post in a forum has every right to express his or her opinion on anything. So bottom line is... try to lighten up a bit.

I don't bother to start threads because someone always beats me to it. This one is a classic scribal representation of a thought that I've had for awhile.

I've posted it before: Why do some people feel it is their place to verbally attack others? To put others "in their place" per the writer's/poster's own idea of morality? How/why is it YOUR job to opine what "(thread starter)" is trying to democratically debate WITHOUT using any rancor, antipathy, or malevolence?

"JUB" isn't the only forum site where this indiscretion of courtesy is exemplified; it is ubiquitous throughout the web.

 

[freefall]

Healthy disagreement is good. Personal attacks are out of line.

Maybe this should be put on the welcome frame on the index, along with the statement: "Those who break this simple rule are thus trolls (or close to them) and won't be forgiven."

I'm serious.

 

[MJEH89]

Yes. Why do you? You didn't always...

I am confused by the obfuscation here.

 

[MJEH89]

^

My uncertainty endures with your nebulous response.

 

[The White Stripe]

Hi. I'm new, lol. What problems exsist in this forum?

I'm intrested, becuase most of the guys here that I've meet have been very thoughtful and welcoming.

What flaws lie within? lol

 

[The White Stripe]

If you check out some of the longer threads... you'll notice that one person says something someone else disagrees with

5 posts later,

That is called stupied behaviour and it is everywhere.


You can't escape it. Anywhere!

Ignore and move on people. (with a smile)

 

[Kyanimal]

ALL of "Us" come from different perspectives, cultures, etc. However, it is most Important that we keep in mind that we're ALL, and, though, I would rather shy away from the term "Delicate" Humans, have our own "Sensitive" buttons. And, in this, it is something that we Share!

Whether, or not, those sensibilities are valid, is really a moot point. What we need to keep in mind is that they do exist, and we should reply, re-read, and edit, before we post.

We also share an uncertainty that what we type is going to be taken/understood in the sense that we mean it. And, this, we should consider before we hit that send/submit button.

Sometimes, it doesn't always work the way we intend. But, that's understandable, too.

SO ... when that happens, take a deep breath, wait until that furious moment passes, and try to give our fellow JUBbers the benefit of the doubt.

We can only do the best that we can do. Realize our own limits, and Respect that which is presented by our peers, no matter the "what", or "who" we THINK they may be.

Which is all the more reason to ... no matter what ...

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

 

[The White Stripe]

Bottom line is dumb people say dumb things on every website in the World and you can't stop it and you cant hide from it.

So just ignore it. Works great for me.