About the wrestlers that worked as fratmen models

[wanderer]

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Many of you maybe already read the news about the two fratmen models whom were outed and identified in reallife. They are wrestlers, pretty good and competitive - there is much at stake for them. When this info leaked yesterday, we removed a lot of threads about them, as you can imagine, that's the worst thing that can happen for any adult performer who is not "out". Fratmen is trying the best to protect it's models, but the news made it into the big media already.
We will tolerate discussion about the topic here under the following circumstances:

• Do not post any of their realnames, or other identifying information, this is forbidden by our CoC, #21
• Do not use any of their fratmen pics, fratmen removed them from their website, and voided all permissions to post them anywhere.

Thanks for your cooperation

SORRY TO BRING THIS UP, BUT WHY ARE THEIR GALLERIES STILL POSTED ON JUB'S HOMEPAGE, AND WHY ARE THERE STILL COMMENTS ON THOSE GALLERIES MENTIONING THEIR REAL NAMES!!!!!

 

[Soilwork]

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As I said earlier, we allowed the galleries back up, but we've asked that any comments with real names be removed. We might need to change that again.

Erg.

 

[rysmiley88]

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Bottom Line! If you put yourelf out in Cyberspace, doing sexual acts, then you should accept the consequences! No one forced these guys to do anything sexual on camera for a buck. I feel no sympathy for them. You reap what you sow..

 

[hercsurf]

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These guys were dismissed because they accepted money for promotional use of themselves which is against NCAA sports rules. Had nothing to do with the gay website per se. And if you guys read the full article and comments on this, youll see that the coach said this was just one other thing in a pattern of behavior that reflected badly on the team, so obviously these two dudes were not angels.

I had a partial scholarship to play baseball for my school and in respect to what they offered me, and to my parents who saved some money, you can be sure as hell i knew what i had to do to ensure i kept that scholarship.

To set up a freaking fund for them to raise moneyfor them is ludicrous.. rewarding them essentially for being a couple of idiots.

 

[jamessmith08]

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I think it's wrong that they were dismissed from the team. All they did was get naked and JO. It's what every guy (gay or straight) does anyway.

I read a comment on gay.com where someone said that if their college doesn't want them to play someone else will.

btw: was the video of nash removed?

I've got a bit of a crush

 

[jaxon29]

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At first I was livid at the guys being tossed from the team and their lives being turned upside down. However, as the story plays out and I've read more, they broke the NCAA rules as set forth in their athletic contract. They took a risk that carried possible consequences and whether it's today or five years from now, the internet will expose you. If you don't care or have anything to lose, then it's okay. Apparently these guys were on thin ice with some of their behavior which was being tolerated as it is with many college athletes. Athletics seem to rule these days. But this was a defiinite violation, so it was the last straw.

I'm sorry the gay angle has been injected into the scenario. All they really did was pose nude and do a solo, so there is no "gay story' except for those who want some added hysteria.

 

[Soilwork]

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It doesn't help when John is quoted in an ABC News article stating the guys "are humilitated ... that their names are being associated with the gay site."

I don't think there's anything for Cal or Nash to be humiliated about -- and I hope they really don't either. I was hoping to see more of them on your sites -- but I guess that dream is dead.

That doesn't sound like anything John would say. I'll have to look that up, but it sounds more like a misquote. John doesn't consider his site to be "gay" and the guys have never said that they're "humiliated" about anything as far as I know.

As far as seeing them again... we never say never.

 

[Soilwork]

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btw: was the video of nash removed?

I've got a bit of a crush

No. Both movies and photosets are still on Fratmen.TV. I've also got some behind-the-scenes video for the blog which I guess I can add too at some point...

 

[Soilwork]

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OK. I found it.

The word "humiliated" isn't in quotes. That's something that the writer used himself. John didn't use that word. I don't think he would.

That being said, I've never found our site to be a "gay" site although we have a "gay sensibility." How's that?

 

[Soilwork]

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I'm with you.

The first Fratmen photos I ever saw was Brad. I made it my mission to work at that studio and 4 years later... I did.

 

[hercsurf]

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Dude come on.. Fratmen is a gay porn site lol I like how we are now mincing words and semantics. Lets stop screwing around with the labels. Fratmen is a gay porn site for gay guys primarily. This is getting ridiculous now.

LOl all they did was get naked and do a solo. Hello.. thats porn lol

 

[Soilwork]

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You're welcome to your opinions, of course, but to me "gay porn" requires gay sex to be taking place on screen. Just the same way that Playboy isn't considered to be a lesbian site, a solo site is just that... a solo site.

I'm not scared of the "gay" tag at all. We of course have a primarily gay audience, but like I've said a hundred times, we don't check ID at the door. If you wanna see hot men naked, that's what we offer. We cater to a much more "gay" audience at Fratpad than we do at Fratmen.

 

[Inwood]

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I think JUB is trying to protect themselves. Should these guys decide to take legal action. If JUB doesn't have the information posted then they aren't liable.

I honestly dont see the problem they're just JO videos

What possible legal action can these guys take? They're in trouble with their school and the NCAA for posing nude and making money and being in promotional advertisements. Most of which is against the NCAA rules. Their school is embarrassed of the publicity. They've done nothing illegal, and they have no reason to sue JUB or Fratmen.

Now we know how nasty and ridiculous rumors begin.

 

[jamessmith08]

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No. Both movies and photosets are still on Fratmen.TV. I've also got some behind-the-scenes video for the blog which I guess I can add too at some point...

cool. what blog?

how much is membership? i you download the videos do they delete themselves?

 

[Soilwork]

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If you download movies from Fratmen they are not DRM-protected and do not stop working.

 

[Corny]

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Update from fratmen:

We've always had the policy of not allowing the real identities of our models be discussed but this story is now a legitimate news story and we can't stop people from discussing or blogging about it.

We DO ask, however, that if you choose to write about it that you don't use our photos in conjunction with the story. You can use stock images from the news and link to our site, of course, and you can even link to other posts which contain the pictures, but please don't use both the real names of the models along side our pictures. If you just want to use our pictures in galleries, just don't use their real names.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

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Couple of things:

First, Fratmen could have taken better pains to hide their identities. I mean, you place them at a 'small New England College', but you go on to divulge that they are wrestlers. Why not shore up your canard with some more regionally appropriate sport, like hockey or lax?

Also, one of these boys has the famous Nebraska Cornhuskers logo tattooed largely on his left thigh. Seriously, why would any kid at say Williams or Dartmouth have that? You could have either covered this up, or edited it out altogether.

This is kind of a tragedy, especially since one of these guys is so good I'm surprised he didn't make the squad in Beijing.

Fratmen has a much 'broader' appeal than most 'gay' sites. It's really more 'sporno', like those French Rugby calendars.

As anyone who has been around the sport for any length of time will attest to, homoeroticsm and frank homosexuality are the 'dirty laundry' of wresting. First, it places more value on the 'physical culture' of masculinity than just about any other sport -- the training regimen these boys subject themselves to would reduce even the most grizzled linebacker to a bawling woman! Second, there's all that close body contact in the setting of spiking adolescent testosterone levels. Borrowing a metaphor from circuits, as plates approach the capacitor breaks down and sparks begin to fly. At the very least, some boys find themselves very confused.

Perhaps this is why coach Manning decided to come down especially hard on these boys: their presence might prove to be too much of a distraction for teammates privately dealing with their sexuality. And perhaps the coach has some unresolved issues of his own . . .

However, I don't think either of these guys are gay. The very fact that they chose to model for Fratmen demonstrates that they are secure enough to know that rubbing one out for a grand or so for a bunch of nellies isn't going to undermine their basic heterosexuality. My guess is that they spent the rest of their time in Cali tomcatting around Malibu, just like any other good looking 22 year old guy with a little money in his pocket.

what they didn't count on was those chicks at the tri-delt house watching them: 'Marcia, you wouldn't believe how BIG those cute little wrestlers are!'

 

[PhunkSpunk]

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To set up a freaking fund for them to raise moneyfor them is ludicrous.. rewarding them essentially for being a couple of idiots.

Hey, raised in s. nassau here. currently living in boston.

I don't think they're a couple of idiots. I think it was March and winds straight from the North Pole were continuing to blow straight down the bleak main street of Lincoln. Maybe they wanted a nice spring break. One of these guys had just become a national champion, and perhaps felt the need to take a victory lap. Free round trip airfare to Cali, and a grand or so just to rub one out. Nice work if you can get it.

These guys are wrestlers. They do it out of love of the sport. It's not like they're getting all sorts of perks and soft money from sporting good manufacturers like Division 1 football and basketball players routinely receive; the NCAA damage control apparatus doesn't kick in to high gear on their behalf as it does when a star football or basketball player gets involved in some minor infraction like date rape or vehicular homicide secondary to DWI. No, these boys -- these highly accomplished athletes in a beautiful but unmarketable sport -- are being hung out to dry.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

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My only issue with what you just said ^^ is the whole "they could have hid their identities better" I don't think any of it would have mattered in the least. I'd bet any amount of money some one came across the site saw his face and knew him instantly. Lies in the back story or an airbrushed tattoo wouldn't have changed anything.

I dunno about that. Based on his NCAA pics, it looks like 'Nash' paid a visit to a stylist prior to his shoot.

 

[hercsurf]

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You know how they could have protected their identities> not strip and jerk off on the internet. And just my final thought here on the who pron site. My guess is that vast vast majority of poeple looking at Fratmen, or fratpad, or frat whatever are gay guys or by guys or closted guys of some sort. Yeah maybe the occasional chick looks at it but i think thats the minority in a huge way.
Not that thats even the point here.. we are losing focus.. the got kicked off for getting paid for their image being on a website for money.

And really guys your watching guys jerk off on a website..thats porn lol solo not solo thats freakin porn.

Playboy is not for lesbian women.. teh subscribers of that rag is hetero men in huge numbers.. just liek Fratmen is gay and bi guys in huge numbers. We are splitting hairs here