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How about you READ. Those videos were shot BEFORE I knew what the 14/88 tattoo meant. That's like a police officer giving someone a ticket for going through an intersection BEFORE the city posted a stop sign.

Once I knew what the 14/88 stood for I, and Axl, took the steps to rectify it. If you'd like to send me a check for the money I spent shooting content in good faith without knowing the meaning of the tats at the time I will be glad to take them down. Again, you keep on and on about this like you are making some grand point. The point was taken about the tattoos offending others and steps were taken to remedy the situation.

Had I shot the initial 4 videos without knowing about the 14/88 meaning your point would be valid. At this point you are asking me to accept a citation AFTER the stop sign was posted. You asking for retroactive retribution when I had no idea when the videos were shot is a bit overbearing. You don't visit Active Duty and you are not a member so why should it matter so much to you when the majority have already said here that the steps to remove the tattoos were enough to satisfy them?

Whether you knew at the time or not really is irrelevant at this point. there are many different sites that pull videos for many different reasons, pulling the one's with the offensive images would go a long way in showing that you actually get why people are offended by the images. you continuing to keep releasing the videos unedited shows you don't get it and only are trying to make it seems as you do. Again, your actions are not consistent with your posts of so called regret. Your post just goes to prove that you are in this to make money any way you can. Just because Axl decided to block the numbers doesn't take away the "NN" tattoo or shows you yourself have made any changes. By this post and the ones that were deleted show that you really don't give a damn about the message you send by continuing to release videos with offensive images.

You do not intend to do much of anything where this matter is concerned. Axl getting the images blocked out doesn't cause you any pain. You do not need to decide what new design is going to now decorate your body. You think you have made some grand gesture and you really haven't. Btw, 4 people have commended you on what Axl has supposedly decided to do, that is by no means the majority of the people who have commented in this thread nor the previous one. It seems that by not pulling the videos and continuing to post the ones you already shot with the offensive images you still want to make money off of them. Someone who would want to distance themselves with those images would pull them and move on. But, why should you not make money and post the videos you already shot. In your mind you believe that just by saying you understand and don't want anyone to ever think you are racist, yet still release more videos of the same model with the same racist tattoos.


Do you have anything to ADD to the discussion or are you going to keep on and on with the same stuff over and over?

So says the guy who keeps whining about being the victim and making up stories of how you have been attacked when it was YOU who began flaming in this thread. People responded by flaming right back at you. I'm sure if the many people who came to post after had seen your comments along with your post in #9 would have a better picture of the current situation. you and Axl are not victims and the only thing that you keep posting is your excuses and how people are attacking you. Do you have pictures of Axl after his visit to the tattoo artist possibly showing the freshly covered tattoo's?


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Whether you knew at the time or not really is irrelevant at this point. there are many different sites that pull videos for many different reasons, pulling the one's with the offensive images would go a long way in showing that you actually get why people are offended by the images. you continuing to keep releasing the videos unedited shows you don't get it and only are trying to make it seems as you do. Again, your actions are not consistent with your posts of so called regret. Your post just goes to prove that you are in this to make money any way you can. Just because Axl decided to block the numbers doesn't take away the "NN" tattoo or shows you yourself have made any changes. By this post and the ones that were deleted show that you really don't give a damn about the message you send by continuing to release videos with offensive images.

You do not intend to do much of anything where this matter is concerned. Axl getting the images blocked out doesn't cause you any pain. You do not need to decide what new design is going to now decorate your body. You think you have made some grand gesture and you really haven't. Btw, 4 people have commended you on what Axl has supposedly decided to do, that is by no means the majority of the people who have commented in this thread nor the previous one. It seems that by not pulling the videos and continuing to post the ones you already shot with the offensive images you still want to make money off of them. Someone who would want to distance themselves with those images would pull them and move on. But, why should you not make money and post the videos you already shot. In your mind you believe that just by saying you understand and don't want anyone to ever think you are racist, yet still release more videos of the same model with the same racist tattoos.




So says the guy who keeps whining about being the victim and making up stories of how you have been attacked when it was YOU who began flaming in this thread. People responded by flaming right back at you. I'm sure if the many people who came to post after had seen your comments along with your post in #9 would have a better picture of the current situation. you and Axl are not victims and the only thing that you keep posting is your excuses and how people are attacking you. Do you have pictures of Axl after his visit to the tattoo artist possibly showing the freshly covered tattoo's?


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Yes, I have pictures of Axl after his visit to the tattoo artist, but unfortunately images of Axl are banned here on JUB so I won't be posting them here. My members will see them though.

You have ADDED nothing to this discussion and your attempts to get me to flame once again are futile. It's obvious you want to continue to FIGHT. I have no further interest in doing so.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Dynk hears from some of his regular customers who are upset/annoyed by the removal of the tattoos. While his viewers are surely diverse, I'm also sure there's a large population of viewers who want to see mostly Caucasian "straight" guys doing each other. The"good old boy/red-blooded male" appeal of his down-home productions has a big redneck following, I would wager. Notice how so many sites go upscale in setting, lighting, camera work, model appearance, etc., once they gain popularity. Dynk has resisted that, so the man knows what his niche audience wants. They want to watch white military-esque guys get each other off.

At the end of the day, he's a pornographer making a living by giving his audience what they want. Most of the people who rant here have never been members of his site, so their only stake in this is to call him out for what they perceive as his seeming support of racist principles. Well, guess what--you've called him out. Repeatedly. Redundantly. Over and over again (get the picture?). He's going to continue to run his site as he sees fit to make his audience and his bank account happy.

While his sincerity in his apology and his story of how he's rectifying it can be called into question, the fact is, he's offered both. The model is no longer posted here on the site most of us actually give any kind of shit about, so continuing to brow-beat him serves no purpose other than mental masturbation. Some of you in your tactics just end up making him look better by comparison.

Perhaps a better tactic than attacking someone and putting him on the defensive would be to open a dialogue focused more on why the symbols, and even his perceived attitude about them, is so hurtful to those offended. If you have a personal stake in the issue, explain it--explain how you feel about seeing the ink and the events that have transpired surrounding it. It may do no good, but it would at least encourage dialogue rather than perpetuate redundant arguments.
 
Yes, I have pictures of Axl after his visit to the tattoo artist, but unfortunately images of Axl are banned here on JUB so I won't be posting them here. My members will see them though.

You have ADDED nothing to this discussion and your attempts to get me to flame once again are futile. It's obvious you want to continue to FIGHT. I have no further interest in doing so.

LOL. No one needs to bait you in to flaming. You do it so well all by yourself. I am not fighting with you just calling you on your bullshit.


I wouldn't be surprised if Dynk hears from some of his regular customers who are upset/annoyed by the removal of the tattoos. While his viewers are surely diverse, I'm also sure there's a large population of viewers who want to see mostly Caucasian "straight" guys doing each other. The"good old boy/red-blooded male" appeal of his down-home productions has a big redneck following, I would wager. Notice how so many sites go upscale in setting, lighting, camera work, model appearance, etc., once they gain popularity. Dynk has resisted that, so the man knows what his niche audience wants. They want to watch white military-esque guys get each other off.

At the end of the day, he's a pornographer making a living by giving his audience what they want. Most of the people who rant here have never been members of his site, so their only stake in this is to call him out for what they perceive as his seeming support of racist principles. Well, guess what--you've called him out. Repeatedly. Redundantly. Over and over again (get the picture?). He's going to continue to run his site as he sees fit to make his audience and his bank account happy.

While his sincerity in his apology and his story of how he's rectifying it can be called into question, the fact is, he's offered both. The model is no longer posted here on the site most of us actually give any kind of shit about, so continuing to brow-beat him serves no purpose other than mental masturbation. Some of you in your tactics just end up making him look better by comparison.

Perhaps a better tactic than attacking someone and putting him on the defensive would be to open a dialogue focused more on why the symbols, and even his perceived attitude about them, is so hurtful to those offended. If you have a personal stake in the issue, explain it--explain how you feel about seeing the ink and the events that have transpired surrounding it. It may do no good, but it would at least encourage dialogue rather than perpetuate redundant arguments.

A dialogue was opened and he told people to kiss his ass. Not only in this thread but, in the previous thread.


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LOL. No one needs to bait you in to flaming. You do it so well all by yourself. I am not fighting with you just calling you on your bullshit.




A dialogue was opened and he told people to kiss his ass. Not only in this thread but, in the previous thread.


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No, that's not how it went down. It's not surprising that's how you see it, however. I've said what I came here to say. I'm glad the pictures are off this site. It's a shame Dynk isn't more interested in completely doing the "right" thing of removing the content from his own site. It's also a shame that several posters here know only how to bludgeon rather than seek an actual dialogue.
 
LOL. No one needs to bait you in to flaming. You do it so well all by yourself. I am not fighting with you just calling you on your bullshit.




A dialogue was opened and he told people to kiss his ass. Not only in this thread but, in the previous thread.


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You again cannot READ! Are you READING THIS? I apologized for my actions. Have you? No. You're still flaming. Flame on.
 
You again cannot READ! Are you READING THIS? I apologized for my actions. Have you? No. You're still flaming. Flame on.

I pointed out in a many,many posts ago that i did not flame is this thread and none of my posts were edited or removed. Why would I apologize?

As I have posted your Non-Apology is worthless without actions that prove you are sorry. Continuing to point fingers, blame others and play the victim isn't a real apology or changes what you continue to do concerning the the offensive images you keep churning out.

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OMFG, this stupid fucking discussion about a tattoo. Get the fuck over it Hellax24 or take your righteousness and use it towards Corbin Fisher and all the shady stuff they've been doing.

Pretty funny how some in this thread make such a stink about a fucking tattoo but drool over CF and their business practices.

Sorry but why can't the people that have issue with this PM or email Dink instead of all these flaming threads with a bunch of flamers. By now every freaking person on here knows about this.
 
OMFG, this stupid fucking discussion about a tattoo. Get the fuck over it Hellax24 or take your righteousness and use it towards Corbin Fisher and all the shady stuff they've been doing.

Pretty funny how some in this thread make such a stink about a fucking tattoo but drool over CF and their business practices.

Sorry but why can't the people that have issue with this PM or email Dink instead of all these flaming threads with a bunch of flamers. By now every freaking person on here knows about this.

Agreed times infinity!
This whole fiasco has descended into plain stupidity, and yes Hellax24 you actually are fuelling the flame with your constant attacks - it's pathetic and does nothing for any of the valid points you have raised, it does nothing but ruin your argument
 
This thread long ago ceased to be nothing more than a train wreck.
Axl's images have been removed from JUB and it does appear steps have been taken to fix his tattoos.
Beyond that, it's beating a dead horse IMO. The personal attacks,chest thumping etc do nothing but invalidate the good points that were made earlier on.
And as Stl said,it's Dynk's site. He is free to put whom he wants on it. Don't like it,don't give him money,simple as that.
 
OMFG, this stupid fucking discussion about a tattoo. Get the fuck over it Hellax24 or take your righteousness and use it towards Corbin Fisher and all the shady stuff they've been doing.

Pretty funny how some in this thread make such a stink about a fucking tattoo but drool over CF and their business practices.

Sorry but why can't the people that have issue with this PM or email Dink instead of all these flaming threads with a bunch of flamers. By now every freaking person on here knows about this.

You have a point. Though anyone would agree it way more then a tattoo. After, Dink made his first few in this thread pissed me off and I took a few deep breathes back away from my computer. Not only was he agreeing with some had white pride bullshit the poster basically posted but, plainly to us that he had many, many more videos of axl and he was going to release them all. He attempted to taunt me with how i was not in control of anything and according to him that it was killing me because i wasn't in control of what he does. he also posted a nonsensical with him in drag talking about meeting guys at truck stops and another post to kiss his ass. At , that point the thread blew up. The only thing i could do was sit back and witness the nastiness being spewed from all involved. Especially, from Dink and so racist assholes i had never seen before on the site.


After, Dink the story about axl getting the tattoo's were blocked out it, for some they agreed this was a good thing to do. But after so much that had gone on I didn't trust it. I had adopted a wait and see attitude. Then Thunder posted and the point that had been eluding everyone, that for all the posts of Dink saying he regretted his part in the flaming and for having those racist tattoos on one of his models and AD and Dink being seen as racist was hurtful to him. Yet, he turned around and posted another video w/axl and his tattoos and once telling people to kiss his ass. Then he attacked a staff member who made a simple post that he had every right to make. The post was not an attack, his disbelief Dink was still posting the same type of videos and with the same model without any editing.

Agreed times infinity!
This whole fiasco has descended into plain stupidity, and yes Hellax24 you actually are fuelling the flame with your constant attacks - it's pathetic and does nothing for any of the valid points you have raised, it does nothing but ruin your argument

You also, have a point. In attempting to make my point i did get somewhat heated and responded to his baiting. I am sorry i let Dink get to me, it just seems how ridiculous this is and how many people in the gay community are so willing to give Dink, Axl a pass. There's a saying the South. "Right is Right and Wrong is Wrong and right don't wrong nobody" It amazes me who many people do not want to address an issue like this one.

I had hoped that with as many LGBTQ activist's out there since the passing of Prop8 that we would have learned that you can't just come across a a problem, of this magnitude and think it will work itself out and does not need to be discussed. This is a divisive situation and by continuing to ignore it, to ignore matters of racism in our community that you really do not understand what the real meaning of the Civil Rights movement. This is where AF-AM become enraged. Because, you can ask for laws to protect us and yet parade a guy like axl around and know what the tattoos mean and chose to ignore them because the kid was naive and didn't know better and why should the guy who paid for the videos not continue to post them so he can make money.


How can you ask for those right while contributing to the that offends not only the LGBTQ community, but also,people of color. the main targets of white supremacists. People who have been intimidated, beaten and killed by the same people axl tattoos represent.The LGBTQ community is fighting for there rights to serve openly in the military, the right to marry and, To create and add Hate Crime to laws in all 50 states. The same people we need protection from are those that have tattoos all over their body that show that they believe they are the master race. Yet, not many people understand what the problem with those tattoos are and don't care. I have always held the belief that the :LGBTQ community has been fighting for their civil rights. However, at this point with the discussion i am now seeing it as Gay rights. Civil right represents everyone, whereas gay rights what certain rights and does nit include everyone.

Dink has said (And others as much) that his members are back country/rednecks that what to see "White" military types and are more then ok with axl's white power collage he has and don't see a problem. Some people will call that racist and some won't. However, i am a person who belongs in different groups, AF-AM and LGBT. Jared said this has opened his eyes to how people of color may feel. I find it sad that this or any other similar issue had to open his eyes, and as hard ad i try cannot open Dink's. There is a clear double standard here and i am that we have studios like Cobin Fisher, who receive dozens of emails to his site threatening them that if they feature AF-AM models they would quit or when they do they get hate mail. These sound like Dink's type of people. It also shows that there are people that find beauty and sexuality in all types of men.It also shows that they stand up to the ignorant and tell them to go fuck themselves.

I see so many gay people who chose not to be a part of the gay scene/community because of their shitty values. I am leaning more towards that also. Giving out passes for poor behavior is sad. Usually, gives passes to models they are attractive and want to see again. They do this because they don't want to think about something they feel is not an issue for them. Until, they met a couple of the walk him and beat the shit out of them. Then they will raise as much hell as they can. The other people secretly agree with the "White power" creed and believe themselves to be better then those that do not look like them. This thread has taught me somethings and re affirmed what i already knew.


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"Dink has said (And others as much) that his members are back country/rednecks"


I'm sorry Hellax but you are wrong. I never said such a thing about my members or fans. Ever. Someone else may have said that, but it was not me.

Otherwise your post is well taken. I think we've all learned something here and I for the record apologize to you for how hurt you obviously feel.

We've all said things that were hurtful and we've all made an effort to apologize. That alone shows progress.
 
Yes, I have pictures of Axl after his visit to the tattoo artist, but unfortunately images of Axl are banned here on JUB so I won't be posting them here. My members will see them though.

I had assumed that pictures of Axl were banned here by your request, but that's clearly not the case. Duh on me for that one.

At any rate, I bet you could get the ban at least partially lifted for purposes of showing pictures of the altered tattoos, since if you didn't request the ban it was almost certainly done because of the racist tats...of which those two have been rendered harmless.

Just a suggestion. Might be worth looking into.
 
I had assumed that pictures of Axl were banned here by your request, but that's clearly not the case. Duh on me for that one.
Following a mod discussion, I initially banned them from the forum, and the site owner then agreed to remove them from the JUB Galleries section of the site following numerous requests by members in the original thread.
At any rate, I bet you could get the ban at least partially lifted for purposes of showing pictures of the altered tattoos, since if you didn't request the ban it was almost certainly done because of the racist tats...of which those two have been rendered harmless...
As the main offence seems to have been caused by the 14/88 tattoo I would image that the office would be open to discussion about allowing new images of Axl - dependant upon the reaction of the members.

As for this thread, enough is enough - again. #-o

If you want to make representations about Axl at Active Duty, either PM Dink or email him.

To re-cap. Axl now has now had the 14 and 88 blocked out by a tattooist. New images released by Active Duty have the numbers digitally removed - some films will still have them showing due to several having already been produced prior to the blocking.

If you want to create a thread discussing the issues raised by tattoos on porn stars - including Axl - please feel free to do so.
 
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