Active Duty's Axl tattoo controversy

[RRUGER]

Wow just shows you how f*gs will defend anything for an attractive guy. I might be late but I just read the whole thread and can't laugh enough at the "explanations" Axl gave for those hideous tattoos. I can actually relate to that .. I was born in a small town in Alberta (Yes we have White Supremacists in Canada) where I have met allot of white supremacists, my dad and mum was kinda racist too but that's all they knew at that time and that's what I had been taught my whole childhood but I grew up, went to college in Toronto and my views changed, I evolved, became more open minded - as kids we don't get to choose how to act because we pretty much mimic what our family and friends do But we eventually grow up and get to choose our own path and come to realize what's wrong and right in life.

I would've respected Axel more if he just said it was a dark time in the past and he got over it and he's a different man now. I would commend him for being truthful instead of spewing that load of crap thinking we're stupid or something - like who the hell has three tattoos that revolve around the same shit and can make excuses like it was for his girl friend and what not! Who does he think we are ?

Anyways I was a paying member for AD for a long time but let me just say I won't be going back anytime soon. Finally to all those people who are still defending Axl ; I'll tell you this, If you do believe in those tattoos and you're a racist yoursel then be my guest; support him it's your choice and your life, but don't sit here and try to give lame explanation on how he magically got not 1 not 2 but 3 tattoos by coincidence... Now go look at Tim Tebows "Gays will burn in hell" pictures and talk about how hot and sexy he is while at it ... *sigh* ​

i have always been saying this...thank u for this and very well said. amazing how many racist comments you see from blog sites from gay men.. amazing yet they preach equality. LOL

DOUBLE STANDARDS

 

[MoufOfKhaos]

Well now all we need is for NeoSlacker to come in this thread and start calling people snow queens. That'll really get the original topic discussed.

 

[-Kane-]

Well now all we need is for NeoSlacker to come in this thread and start calling people snow queens. That'll really get the original topic discussed.

A few things:

1. For someone who has declared himself "deaf" to NeoSlacker, you sure as hell have a healthy obsession with him.

2. What have you actually contributed to the controversy being discussed other than kiss the asses of Dink and Jasun along with defending a RACIST sack of shit? I know the mirror you glance at each morning only reflects what you want to appear, but just in case you can't see what's in the mirror, let me remind you that you are a Black Male. Get a fucking backbone and stop being a Uncle Tom!

3. All of your posts seems to invite acrimony. Are you unhappy Jystar? Are u suffering with low self worth? Get help, life is great once you decide to live an "authentic" one.

**Now you need not address me in this thread unless it pertains to the topic**

On the other hand, don't address me at all!

 

[MoufOfKhaos]

Not that I can see what it wrote, but damn am I good!

Maybe I should have wished for a car instead though.

But hey, seriously... even though it's blatantly clear that this guy has bizarre judgment problems, it'd still be nice to get an explanation from him. I've never been on Active Duty.com, i'm not here to protest a site owner of a porn site I don't care about that plays to a niche I don't follow because they don't offer all the colors of the rainbow I desire, because I know where to get them. I just am kind of curious.

 

[Críostóir]

I don't see how anyone could continue to defend Dink after the comments he made about why he doesn't use black models.

Where'd he say that? I can't find it.

 

[MajorJake101]

Ok so I just watched the video and seems to me that you all fell for the scheme and plan Dink had in mind .. this may sound crazy but I think both Dink and Axl planned this together - not getting the tattoos but how he will make sure that we question the tattoos so this whole commotion could happen and bring in some traffic to the website...

So I was watching the video and towards the end Axl starts playing and caressing his lower abdomen tattoo and says " this one is fairly new but It's a secret I won't tell you what it represents" (something along those lines) - Then the Camera goes up towards his "Controversial" tattoos and Dink says " I think this isn't the only secrets you're keeping from me" ... hmm makes ya think .. Seems to me like it was scripted and played to deliver that message because most of us don't really notice tattoos even if we do notice them we don't really figure out what they mean unless we really tried, in my case when I first saw the High Res. photos I didn't really pay attention in decoding those tattooes at all. Dink could be anything he's a smart mofo and you guys helped him out too - Controversy = $$$

Not to mention along the whole shoot the Cameraman made sure he got ample steady shots of those tattoos.

That's just my opinion which might not be true.

With all this said I must say the Video was hot and apart from the tattoos that may offended some people .. Axl is really sexy and seemed like a nice guy in the Video. As for Dink .. well Dink is a smart guy.



My suggestion is to close this useless thread because we are going nowhere but further help Dink --- shit Axl will probably ask for more money after this ; you guys are sitting here typing away butt hurt and Dink is laughing all the way to the bank ...


Cheers

 

[Mnestor]

^ Stop Supporting Racism Majorjake101

 

[LuvFindsAndyHardy]

My suggestion is to close this useless thread

Fortunately that isn't really for you to decide. When interest in the thread dies and everyone has had their say, then the thread will fall naturally fall off the front page and towards the archives (just like any other.) It's interesting that you switched from "close the thread because this is a non-issue" to "close this thread because we are helping Dink" but, as you say...."whatever."

 

[CowboyBob]

My suggestion is to close this useless thread

Hello Dink.

Tell us more of how you exploit "fucked up kids who had a bad childhood" (in your own words).

You are the stranger our Mothers warned us about.

*** image removed by request ***

Guys......Next time you're looking at an Active Duty video and listening to Dink coo seductively at the youth in the video, this is the man with the camera and who's voice you hear.

..........still have that hardon?

 

[MajorJake101]

Hello Dink.

Tell us more of how you exploit "fucked up kids who had a bad childhood" (in your own words).

You are the stranger our Mothers warned us about.

*** image removed by request ***

Next time you're looking at an Active Duty video and listening to Dink coo seductively at the youth in the video, this is the man with the camera and who's voice you hear.

..........still have that hardon?

You are qouting the wrong person..I'm not Dink !!

 

[MajorJake101]

^ Stop Supporting Racism Majorjake101

When did I ever support Racism .. all I said is that it's not a big deal it's just porn!

 

[Ninja108]

COwboy bob..I'm on board with the anger about Axl based on learning some things about him but the other part...as I said before Dirk Yates and Rob from Military Classified do the same thing as well in using real life troops.
Troops whom know damn well the risks they are taking by agreeing to appear in porn flicks. We might dislike but at the end of the day, none of them were forced to do these films..they chose to do them.

 

[CowboyBob]

Don't give me that shit. The fact is Dink Flamingo (damn, I hate that pseudonym).... exploits those who are vulnerable. All pornographers do. Read my JUB blog.

This so called "Dink" knows "Axl" is a walking advertisement for the Aryan Brotherhood but he's still using him anyway. He doesn't give a rats ass. It's all about money honey.

 

[Ninja108]

Don't give me that shit. The fact is Dink Flamingo (damn, I hate that pseudonym).... exploits those who are vulnerable. All pornographers do. Read my JUB blog.

This so called "Dink" knows "Axl" is a walking advertisement for the Aryan Brotherhood but he's still using him anyway. He doesn't give a rats ass. It's all about money honey.

Of course it is. Hence the reason Sean Cody still has an admitted killer on his website,homophobic gay4payers are still in the biz,and someone who doesn't know how to keep his hands off other people still gets frequent work. Why should be shocked about this?

 

[CowboyBob]

Of course it is. Hence the reason Sean Cody still has an admitted killer on his website,homophobic gay4payers are still in the biz,and someone who doesn't know how to keep his hands off other people still gets frequent work. Why should be shocked about this?

Well don't support them if you think that it's a problem. If you don't like gay for pay and all that other stuff you talk about then avoid it. That's a totally different subject than what's going on here. This is the Dink Flamingo / Axl thread. Go and start another thread.

Should I rant about my car being dirty?

 

[Ninja108]

Well don't support them if you think that it's a problem. If you don't like gay for pay and all that other stuff you talk about then avoid it. That's a totally different subject than what's going on here. This is the Dink Flamingo / Axl thread. Go and start another thread.

Should I rant about my car being dirty?

Here's my problem with your post. The racist tattoos is one thing(and at this point I can't believe he doesn't know that all of them put together is bad)..but I won't give a free pass to the men who choose to appear in these videos. Personality responsblity is fading fast in this country and the idea that these men are totally blameless in choosing to appear in these films isn't going to happen.
They know darn well the risks and consquences of doing porn while representing the U.S. military.
As to what I posted before, it was to make a point that Axl is far from the first questionable person to appear in porn..and he won't be the last.

 

[marcopolomarco]

A few years a ago there was a case similar to this on another site. It's similar amateur format with predominately "str8" models. I happened to be a member at the time and was active in their forum. Anyway, the model had a large tat on his back, if remember correctly it said "white power" or something similar. No one had noticed it before because of cam angles or he was often on his back lol so it didn't show. It was very quick and I had to pause it to even read what it said because it looked like a big blur from the distance. There was a similar discussion there, although not nearly as heated as this one. I think my subscription ran out about that time so I'm not sure what happened with that. It wasn't clear either why he had that tattoo. His personality didn't seem like the typical aryan neo-nazi. It was disappointing because he was actually a really good model, both in looks and his personality was quite engaging and entertaining. There was a lot of speculation about it, but I don't recall if anything was resolved. I really don't remember the details. If anyone else does it would be interesting to know. I've seen him at least a couple of times on other sites. One was on a (supposedly) user admitted footage site.

Anyway, this isn't the first case and I'm sure not the last. The difference between that one and Axl is that there was no room for doubt what the other tattoo meant. With Axl, and I'm sure plenty disagree with me on this and that's okay, the only one of his tats that is exclusively a racist symbol is the 14 and 88. And in most every reference to that symbol I can find it is almost always in the form of 14/88. That says to me that he, the artist or whoever suggested that tat possibly didn't know how it's supposed to be done. They might have just been wannabe racists or maybe mistaken about the meaning.

The rest of them are not exclusively neo-nazi symbols. Even the anti-defamation league says you can't assume those are because many groups use them. I myself am of scandinavian-scotch-irish-welsh background. And I'm very much into the art and mythology of the region. If I were to get inked I'd use celtic, norse, runic symbols, but I'm not racist by any means. And sure as hell not part of any neo-nazi aryan thing. I'm about as far from that as you can get. I'm already called a bleeding heart pinko commie marxist. So for me nordic/celtic symbols have nothing to do with racism.

Aryan/Nazi's normally have some distinct markers like:
1. 3rd reich symbols, swastika the most common, iron cross, iron eagle, SS
2. Logo of group the person is affiliated with - AB, HH, Cristian Identity, they all have a specific logo tat which he doesn't have
3. Often use text that's quite clear -as to meaning - like White Power, etc.
4. They seem to be fond of art styles popular in Europe in the 20's and 30's esp. the geometric poster art and constructivism and very thick lines. Pictures of war imagery, skulls, german soldiers
5. Gothic script is usually also present

These things are absent in Axl's tats, which doesn't prove anything either, but it makes me question the accusations that he's some kind of hardcore member of a hate group. It seems to me more like the ink that a teenager might get when attempting to emulate the look. A lot of kids copy different looks without being deeply grounded in the ideology. Look at all the neo-hippies who pay a lot of money at the mall using parents credit cards so they can look like hippies. I doubt many of them know who Abbie Hoffman, Ken Kesey, Jerry Rubin, or even Timothy Leary were or that they're forming communes and consciousness-raising sit-ins.

Don't mean to beat this horse to a death. It just has me thinking. I mean he could be a total racist. I just would like to have something more like a quote, or picture of him at a rally or something before branding a teenager with such a label. People are talking about banning him, firing him etc. All based on assumptions of stereotypes of his appearance. Has anyone heard him say anything that could be construed as racist? If he does I'm totally in agreement, but people are so quick to condemn others anymore. Few things are that black and white. But I agree with the sentiment. It's just that choose your battles wisely thing. Like someone said earlier - people see what they expect to see and enough people repeating something becomes reality whether it's true or not. There's so much of that in politics right now that's it's made me not trust belief or opinions much. I'd rather have hard facts.

 

[Lostlover]

Well don't support them if you think that it's a problem. If you don't like gay for pay and all that other stuff you talk about then avoid it. That's a totally different subject than what's going on here. This is the Dink Flamingo / Axl thread. Go and start another thread.

Should I rant about my car being dirty?

I love how he used the fact that I didn't grow up with the same circumstances as the porn "star," Axl, against me (read: my parents should have never gone to college).

That response was really telling.

I'm seeing too, time after time, this lowering of the bar in who they allow to represent our country. Maybe, this is why we're always having controversies such as soldiers peeing on corpses, raping little girls, making pyramids of Iraqi detainees and I guess, now, soldiers "making a living" by going into porn. It always makes me chuckle when they cry victim for being exposed for doing something the military calls, rightfully, "dishonorable." And, of course, there's that gay man waiting there to support the wronged soldier in his appeal.

 

[Ninja108]

I love how he used the fact that I didn't grow up with the same circumstances as the porn "star," Axl, against me (read: my parents should have never gone to college).

That response was really telling.

I'm seeing too, time after time, this lowering of the bar in who they allow to represent our country. Maybe, this is why we're always having controversies such as soldiers peeing on corpses, raping little girls, making pyramids of Iraqi detainees and I guess, now, soldiers "making a living" by going into porn. It always makes me chuckle when they cry victim for being exposed for doing something the military calls, rightfully, "dishonorable." And, of course, there's that gay man waiting there to support the wronged soldier in his appeal.

I think there were always bad seeds..we just didn't have 24 hour media and social media to show them to us.

 

[JaredPad]

If you search youtube for the name of the Active Duty boss, you'll find a vid from the "Grabbies" that will, I think, tell you a lot about the person responsible (maybe 'irresponsible' is better).