Active Duty's Axl tattoo controversy

[crushinonted]

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There are no gay white supremacists.

You can't be serious. And there are no gay "anti-gay rights" republicans either.

Spending a few hours or days, even weeks, with someone still does not give an accurate indication of who that person truly is. How many serial killers were "the nicest neighbors"? And people knew them for years.

I could understand one tat, but 3 or 4? That goes beyond being naive. Maybe he's changed his ways, or never really believed in them in the first place, but there's no doubt that he was once very involved in that group. He might have been sent to juvi on something completely unrelated, but had to fit in somewhere in order to survive his time there.

 

[Asenath]

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One thing I did learn about Axl, like so many of these young men, is that he had a very hard childhood.

This actually reminds me of a pair of cousins I knew back in my younger days who had been part of a White Nationalist group, but turned away from that ideology when they had gotten their lives together.

Young working class men who are looking for some kind of family, and have had an impoverished childhood are the "recruiters" first target. Back then, the white power groups were flourishing because of the recession of the late 80s and early 90s - Reaganomics coming home to roost. Now, it's the same shit & a different decade. It's really easy to stir up young men who would have had a job in a local industry, but the industry's been shut down.

If Axl's actually in the armed forces, it stands to reason that he wouldn't need that belief system anymore - and has probably learned better by being exposed to a diverse cohort of other servicemen. I'm willing to throw him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[SweetGelato]

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Speaking as a ethnic minority, the whole Axl situation makes my viewings very, very awkward.

 

[Ninja108]

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Btw, that Celtic cross....I have a friend who has that, and he is most definately not a racist. I've seen the spider web tattoo as well.

 

[iluvcakes]

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As a Black Man, The Tats on AXL didn't stick out to me as racist who knows, but if anything bothers me it would be the fact that AD has yet to have a single model of any other ethnicity than white in all the years the site has been active. It makes these type of accusations hold more validity. It's a shame too because you have some of the hottest white models in porn and nothing is better than interracial stuff

 

[Soilwork]

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I'll tell you this... very often guys get tattoos because they think they're cool OR they mean something else.

We once worked with a model on Cocksure Men that did bareback scenes and had a HUGE BioHazard symbol on his belly. People assumed that meant he was HIV+ and into Breeding.

Except it was also a "cool looking" symbol that means "BioHazard" and the model in question was a fan of the band "BioHazard" and liked the symbol.

I also know that some young men make bad choices early in life and then see how wrong they were and move on. AT 18, we all deserve a few extra chances to prove ourselves. Fuck, at 19, I had won the Womanizer of the Year award in my college class.

 

[Ninja108]

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As a Black Man, The Tats on AXL didn't stick out to me as racist who knows, but if anything bothers me it would be the fact that AD has yet to have a single model of any other ethnicity than white in all the years the site has been active. It makes these type of accusations hold more validity. It's a shame too because you have some of the hottest white models in porn and nothing is better than interracial stuff

There have actually been latino and filipino models on the site. And Bric is part hispanic and has been in several scenes the past few months. How about Axel is given the benefit of a doubt before being branded a racist?

 

[Asenath]

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I have some personal experience with it too...

If watching American History X counts. No? Okay. :/

Oh, god. That movie was terrible. Nothing that dramatic ever happened for the two guys I knew - they just got jobs and realized that their crew was full of idiots. I assume they would have realized it earlier if they weren't basically feral children from a broke-ass rural area.

 

[Hellax24]

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There are no gay white supremacists.

But there are Gay 4 Pay models.

As a Black Man, The Tats on AXL didn't stick out to me as racist who knows, but if anything bothers me it would be the fact that AD has yet to have a single model of any other ethnicity than white in all the years the site has been active. It makes these type of accusations hold more validity. It's a shame too because you have some of the hottest white models in porn and nothing is better than interracial stuff

Except Dink has said in the past that he would only hire "Aryans"

I'll tell you this... very often guys get tattoos because they think they're cool OR they mean something else.

We once worked with a model on Cocksure Men that did bareback scenes and had a HUGE BioHazard symbol on his belly. People assumed that meant he was HIV+ and into Breeding.

Except it was also a "cool looking" symbol that means "BioHazard" and the model in question was a fan of the band "BioHazard" and liked the symbol.

I also know that some young men make bad choices early in life and then see how wrong they were and move on. AT 18, we all deserve a few extra chances to prove ourselves. Fuck, at 19, I had won the Womanizer of the Year award in my college class.

Yes. There is an excuse for everything.

Now Ninja108 did Bric make that claim himself or are you assuming that? Thank goodness I'm colorblind and was not raised to see a persons color. All I see in Bric is a caucasian person with a tan maybe where you got part hispanic from I don't see it

As for that Axl situation I mean really DINK should/and Prbably is enjoying the fruits of his new baby*THE NEW AD SITE*instead of trying to do damage PR control because of ones choice in tattoos.

As for the AXL tattoo situation can we please close the subject and move on


And he Already has been given benefit of doubt by ME AT least I can't speak for everyone else.

I thought you were against Gay 4 Pay models?

The Statement of being colorblind is fucking insult. I am Af-Am and were are all not the same shade and to see anyone is look at how there skin is attractive to you or not.

I'm colorblind too..I was simply refuting an earlier statment.
As to the second part, this is my last post on it as well.
People's minds are made up.

Ditto for you.

I love how people think a model is good looking and get's them going that they make excuses for all type's of behavior. As someone said 1 tattoo maybe, 3-4 then you know what your doing and there is no excuse for it. There are people of NN or WS that are gay it's naive to say there isn't. They just hide it like any other closeted gay man or woman. Believing that people that hate as much as they do are not Brokebacking it every chance they get then people are just not allowing that concept to exist. Aryans in prison are fucking each other everyday and if they have the mind set to have sex with other Aryan men then they will. Prison or Not.

Has anyone seen "Monster's Ball"? There is a movie that will tell you what is what about racists. The racist father that had much more hate then any of the others talked about how he liked "N##### Juice" from time to time. The slave owners in the south surely did. They believed AF-AM were non-humans and they surely loved screwing the female and MALE slaves.

If indeed at 18-19 he has realized that he made a mistake then i would think he would try to cover them up with another design. If he wants to keep them then i think he is still holding on to those ideas and principles. I Would love to see what is written in his tattoo. Is it those precious 14 words of the Aryan Nation he is/was a part of and what special meaning it holds?

I am not a member of Actiive Duty and will never support them because of statements made by Dink. I have in the past years ago purchased DVD's from AD,But that was before i knew better. Since i lived in NC when he resided here i have heard many things from people and posts Dink has made himself.


I'm sure people will come up with more excuses. Look how many jump from driving Gay 4 Pay models out of gay porn and then get a hard on for one and salivate all over them.

CXXX

 

[ACTIVE DUTY]

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Really?

Surely this is a misunderstanding. At least I hope it is.



Yes, I did notice that some of the people posting here in support of giving Axl the benefit of the doubt are incredibly vocal about g4p performers who have done/said far less. Very strange.

Total misunderstanding and blatant lie. Bring the proof in my words where I EVER said that all I would hire are Aryans. Total bullshit. I never made that statement anywhere.

 

[Ninja108]

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I've seen several of his movies with hispanics in them..try again folks.

 

[Hellax24]

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I've seen several of his movies with hispanics in them..try again folks.

Those would be???

CXXX

 

[Hellax24]

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Total misunderstanding and blatant lie. Bring the proof in my words where I EVER said that all I would hire are Aryans. Total bullshit. I never made that statement anywhere.

What was the misunderstanding? I will admit that i cannot bring up the particular post on your site but, i do remember you posting(If not the exact words) Those sentiments. I must have missed all the Ethnic models you have used over the years.

Your mistake will be thinking people have no mind of their own and will accept your spin on this model and your practices. But, you are a business owner and will try to squash what people see right in front of their faces.

CXXX

 

[ACTIVE DUTY]

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What was the misunderstanding? I will admit that i cannot bring up the particular post on your site but, i do remember you posting(If not the exact words) Those sentiments. I must have missed all the Ethnic models you have used over the years.

Your mistake will be thinking people have no mind of their own and will accept your spin on this model and your practices. But, you are a business owner and will try to squash what people see right in front of their faces.

CXXX

No, you're the spinner here, my friend. Spinning lies without the facts to back it up. You should get a job on Fox News. You'd do well there among their staff who do exactly what you just did.

When you make an accusation such as the strong one you made, a little factual back-up would be in order. But, as we see, you have none. Talk about spinning. As much as you seem to spend time on these threads there's no telling what you've read and how you've twisted it up to serve you in your false and misleading accusation.

The real hate in all of this is people like yourself who throw out accusations without facts just to stir the pot.

 

[Hellax24]

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What was the misunderstanding? I will admit that i cannot bring up the particular post on your site but, i do remember you posting(If not the exact words) Those sentiments. I must have missed all the Ethnic models you have used over the years.

Your mistake will be thinking people have no mind of their own and will accept your spin on this model and your practices. But, you are a business owner and will try to squash what people see right in front of their faces.

CXXX

No, you're the spinner here, my friend. Spinning lies without the facts to back it up. You should get a job on Fox News. You'd do well there among their staff who do exactly what you just did.

When you make an accusation such as the strong one you made, a little factual back-up would be in order. But, as we see, you have none. Talk about spinning. As much as you seem to spend time on these threads there's no telling what you've read and how you've twisted it up to serve you in your false and misleading accusation.

The real hate in all of this is people like yourself who throw out accusations without facts just to stir the pot.

You and people like you amaze me. At this point in the discussion i all of the sudden become the person full of hate.

Is it because i pointed out the non sensical posts of people saying that Neo Nazi's aren't Gay? That they don't sell their ass on film to make the rent? Don't get me wrong you want to sell your ass do it, i have no problem with people who do. But, when start defending models with post's like those i feel the need to point out that their logic is wrong.

I do not spend much time on this board and have not posted that much either, but felt the need to chime in here. You yourself have admitted to having a Neo Nazi tattoo. I find it odd after all this time and money you have made that you haven't had it removed since it was a mistake and all.

I also find it funny that when you responded after my post that you posted to a post before mine yet, waited an hour and a half and after Thatgirl posted to take an out that she had given you to say it was a misunderstanding and yet, have NOT explained what the misunderstanding was or wasn't.


Those attributes that you say liken me to Fox News seems more suited to you to spin this and say it was a misunderstanding yet and still have not addressed my post. You say it was a misunderstanding expound on that. What did i or anyone else misunderstand? Since they were your words i misunderstood please clear up any confusion.

One thing none us the people reading this thread is that those Tat's Axl has are steeped in Neo Nazism.


CXXX

 

[ACTIVE DUTY]

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You and people like you amaze me. At this point in the discussion i all of the sudden become the person full of hate.

Is it because i pointed out the non sensical posts of people saying that Neo Nazi's aren't Gay? That they don't sell their ass on film to make the rent? Don't get me wrong you want to sell your ass do it, i have no problem with people who do. But, when start defending models with post's like those i feel the need to point out that their logic is wrong.

I do not spend much time on this board and have not posted that much either, but felt the need to chime in here. You yourself have admitted to having a Neo Nazi tattoo. I find it odd after all this time and money you have made that you haven't had it removed since it was a mistake and all.

I also find it funny that when you responded after my post that you posted to a post before mine yet, waited an hour and a half and after Thatgirl posted to take an out that she had given you to say it was a misunderstanding and yet, have NOT explained what the misunderstanding was or wasn't.


Those attributes that you say liken me to Fox News seems more suited to you to spin this and say it was a misunderstanding yet and still have not addressed my post. You say it was a misunderstanding expound on that. What did i or anyone else misunderstand? Since they were your words i misunderstood please clear up any confusion.

One thing none us the people reading this thread is that those Tat's Axl has are steeped in Neo Nazism.


CXXX

Don't try to confuse things even more. You know exactly what I was referring to and it had nothing to do with what you assert in the first paragraph above. I wasn't responding to that. I was responding to your blatant lie that it had ever came out of my mouth that I would only hire Aryan models so let's not try to spin it once again.

Furthermore you go on to quote me as saying I too had a neo nazi tattoo which in fact I never said. I said I had a tattoo of a cross. A plain old cross like they hung Jesus from. But you again read what you want and say I said something else.

If 1100 posts in under 2 years isn't spending a lot of time on these threads then I must really be pressed for time as I've posted just over 200 since joining JUB in 2005. The hour and a half it took me to respond was due to the fact that I don't sit here on the board refreshing the page, ready for attack. Obviously you have that time on your hands to do so. Hence, your 1100 posts.

The misunderstanding that I was responding to was the blatant lie you posted about me making the statement about only working with Aryan models. You knew that and you are still trying to spin it. You and your reasoning as well as your obvious disregard for actually READING what people wrote before you misquote them or post outright lies about things you "read" that you suddenly can't find has rendered you invalid of anymore of my time. Your words speak for themselves. You type them as they are convenient to your argument. You would have made a poor lawyer but a damn good Fox News correspondent.

 

[Hellax24]

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And, yet the misunderstanding you mentioned in response to Thatgirl is still unanswered.

Buh Bye.

P.S. There are many people on this site that have been here less and have a higher post count.

CXXX

 

[JayQueer]

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I'm really disappointed in Dink, Active Duty, and most of you guys for letting this slide so easily.

While it is important to ask "Axl" about why he got all of those White Supremacy and Aryan Brotherhood tattoos, why is JUB featuring galleries of this guy, like this one?

http://www.justusboys.com/eyecandy_25439-axl-active_duty.html

If Dink wants to feature this guy on his website, that's his decision.

But "Just Us Boys" should make a decision to selectively not feature any guys who do have blatantly offensive tattoos on their body.

It's not like this guy has just one tattoo that's offensive. It's at least 3 tattoos that are unquestionably associated with the Aryan Brotherhood.

 

[ezwriter]

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The obvious solution to the Axl issue is to bring in a black guy, a Jew and a Latino, all with humongous cocks, to gang-fuck the little Nazi bitch in the mouth and ass. Problem solved.

 

[LuvFindsAndyHardy]

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So, I'm curious. Now that the despicable meaning behind the tattoos is out and they are clearly offensive to a great number of people, what's the upshot?

He's "hot" so we give him a pass? He stays on the site, gets hired again and we give Active Duty a pass because he's really a "nice guy" and he "probably" didn't know what Heil Hitler meant? We let the "market" decide whether or not AB porn is cool and MY decision to not support that is "respected" but, hey he's hot and honest he's a "really nice" maybe racist so we're still gonna have him representing the site (free market free market ya know)?

What's the answer to those customers who are offended?