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SilverWolf
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Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?
http://http://www.nj.com/entertainment/celebrities/index.ssf/2009/11/adam_lamberts_ama_performance_1.html
Executives at the network were apparently caught off-guard by some elements of Lambert’s so-called “freestyle” performance, including the singer kissing a male keyboard player and thrusting a male dancer’s face into his crotch. The latter moment at least was a part of the rehearsal, though the AP says the dancer did not get as close to Lambert in the rehearsal.
They knew about the bj.act.It did not go as planned but they still knew.
http://http://www.nj.com/entertainment/celebrities/index.ssf/2009/11/adam_lamberts_ama_performance_1.html
Executives at the network were apparently caught off-guard by some elements of Lambert’s so-called “freestyle” performance, including the singer kissing a male keyboard player and thrusting a male dancer’s face into his crotch. The latter moment at least was a part of the rehearsal, though the AP says the dancer did not get as close to Lambert in the rehearsal.
They knew about the bj.act.It did not go as planned but they still knew.
LiquidSky
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Re: Adam Lambert... a TRUE artist.
Your post is ignorant. She's an excellent classical guitarist. I would be more embarrassed by being *you* with your idiotic ramblings.
Your post is ignorant. She's an excellent classical guitarist. I would be more embarrassed by being *you* with your idiotic ramblings.
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Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?
He made an ass out of himself because his performance was amateurish. Being gay is part of his identity and he does have a right to express that part of who he is as he considers most appropriate. And yes, homophobia does play a VERY big part in the reaction that many have had to what he did. Men are simply expected to objectify women, not other men. Same sex behaviour is viewed as acceptable only when it complies with the heterosexist vision of female submission to the male psyche. Man on man action is seen as repulsive.
I would like to ask you, thus, what should have he done? Being openly gay and not hiding it is a way of rubbing one's sexuality in people's faces, because people feel immensely threatened by homosexuality and are obsessed about it, especially with men. Should we blame Adam for not hiding who he is?
I don't see why he is a greater embarrassment than Elton John, George Michael or Stephen Gately, for example. He just happens to be younger and have a greater platform at the moment.
Please, don't take this as a personal attack, but I think that your dislike for Adam does have an incidence in your opinion of him as a public figure. Personally, I think that this entire situation has been blown way out of proportion.
He made an ass out of himself because his performance was amateurish. Being gay is part of his identity and he does have a right to express that part of who he is as he considers most appropriate. And yes, homophobia does play a VERY big part in the reaction that many have had to what he did. Men are simply expected to objectify women, not other men. Same sex behaviour is viewed as acceptable only when it complies with the heterosexist vision of female submission to the male psyche. Man on man action is seen as repulsive.
I would like to ask you, thus, what should have he done? Being openly gay and not hiding it is a way of rubbing one's sexuality in people's faces, because people feel immensely threatened by homosexuality and are obsessed about it, especially with men. Should we blame Adam for not hiding who he is?
I don't see why he is a greater embarrassment than Elton John, George Michael or Stephen Gately, for example. He just happens to be younger and have a greater platform at the moment.
Please, don't take this as a personal attack, but I think that your dislike for Adam does have an incidence in your opinion of him as a public figure. Personally, I think that this entire situation has been blown way out of proportion.
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Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?
I, for one, am not blaming him for anything except his own behavior. Even then, it's not so much blame as it is just voicing my opinion about his character. Let him hump, kiss and orally violate whoever the hell he wants. At the end of the day, it really doesn't affect my life at all. My opinions remain the same though. I think he's tacky, egotistical and starved for attention.
Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?
Equating Adam Lambert to Elton John is a real travesty on your part. In no way is Adam Lambert even in the same hemisphere of talent as Elton John. The only thing those two have in common is that they are both gay. And as elvin1 pointed out, Elton John is at least talented and his performances are classey and tasteful.
Sorry, I know we should all be supportive of fellow members of the LGBT community but Adam Lambert is a real disappointment to the entertainment and music industry. His performance was tasteless and unappealing, regardless of his sexuality. Maybe some people like that in an entertainer but he just doesn't pull it off well at all. And as my gay friend from Germany put it earlier today "He is soo ugly"
Equating Adam Lambert to Elton John is a real travesty on your part. In no way is Adam Lambert even in the same hemisphere of talent as Elton John. The only thing those two have in common is that they are both gay. And as elvin1 pointed out, Elton John is at least talented and his performances are classey and tasteful.
Sorry, I know we should all be supportive of fellow members of the LGBT community but Adam Lambert is a real disappointment to the entertainment and music industry. His performance was tasteless and unappealing, regardless of his sexuality. Maybe some people like that in an entertainer but he just doesn't pull it off well at all. And as my gay friend from Germany put it earlier today "He is soo ugly"
Re: Adam Lambert... a TRUE artist.
Please, Please, Please. If not for her, for her fans. Here are the links:
http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286174
http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286177
http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=284866
Female Trouble is my favorite John Wanters and Divine movie.
There's a scene which reminds me of the entire delusional worship of Whitney Houston's disastrous performance at the AMA.
Dawn Davenport (Whitney Houston) lands in the hospital and though hideously disfigured, Donald & Donna Dashers (SexyKev & Taurean79) and her other friends (Davenavarrolover, legend145) convince her she's pretty and discourage her from having reconstructive plastic surgery.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THP5g7rH3OI[/ame]
Please, Please, Please. If not for her, for her fans. Here are the links:
http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286174
http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286177
http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=284866
Female Trouble is my favorite John Wanters and Divine movie.
There's a scene which reminds me of the entire delusional worship of Whitney Houston's disastrous performance at the AMA.
Dawn Davenport (Whitney Houston) lands in the hospital and though hideously disfigured, Donald & Donna Dashers (SexyKev & Taurean79) and her other friends (Davenavarrolover, legend145) convince her she's pretty and discourage her from having reconstructive plastic surgery.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THP5g7rH3OI[/ame]
Re: Adam Lambert... a TRUE artist.
She has more talent than most of the shit that's celebrated in this country. She also knows how to make of herself.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgcblpNdELU[/ame]
She has more talent than most of the shit that's celebrated in this country. She also knows how to make of herself.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgcblpNdELU[/ame]
Timber_8
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Re: Adam Lambert... a TRUE artist.
The performance wasn't my taste but I do like his creativity on some of his other projects. That goes with every artist. Not everyone is going to see the same thing as the next in what they consider art. Just because I don't think someone has talent doesn't mean they don't. Art takes many forms, personalty I don't judge of an artist on 1 piece of there work.
By the way I am proud to be a Fag. I like it better than a lot of the politically correct terms used today
The performance wasn't my taste but I do like his creativity on some of his other projects. That goes with every artist. Not everyone is going to see the same thing as the next in what they consider art. Just because I don't think someone has talent doesn't mean they don't. Art takes many forms, personalty I don't judge of an artist on 1 piece of there work.
By the way I am proud to be a Fag. I like it better than a lot of the politically correct terms used today
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Re: Adam Lambert... a TRUE artist.
Can we please stop pretending like everything this guy does is art? Yes he has talent, but that doesn't mean he's making a masterpiece everytime he takes a shit. I really don't see what's so artsy about somebody doing a bunch of stupid shit to shock people and get attention. Desperation is hardly artistic.
Can we please stop pretending like everything this guy does is art? Yes he has talent, but that doesn't mean he's making a masterpiece everytime he takes a shit. I really don't see what's so artsy about somebody doing a bunch of stupid shit to shock people and get attention. Desperation is hardly artistic.
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Adam Lambert's - For Your Entertainment Official Music Video
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXesj-OOqqg[/ame]
It's even more shocking than the performance. See it for yourself!
(I know a lot of people here hate him but I find him amusing for some reason!)
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXesj-OOqqg[/ame]
It's even more shocking than the performance. See it for yourself!
(I know a lot of people here hate him but I find him amusing for some reason!)
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Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?
>>>I would like to ask you, thus, what should have he done? Being openly gay and not hiding it is a way of rubbing one's sexuality in people's faces, because people feel immensely threatened by homosexuality and are obsessed about it, especially with men. Should we blame Adam for not hiding who he is?
He should've have been entertaining.
The fact that he's gay isn't a problem.
The fact that he doesn't hide it isn't a problem.
The fact that he did grinding moves with his dancers and kissed his (straight!) male keyboardist isn't a problem.
The fact that he managed to not be entertaining during all of this IS a problem.
I don't agree with those who are playing the "he's giving us a bad name" here. I don't expect him to be the poster child for homosexuality for anybody. But I do expect him to be entertaining. That's what he is - an entertainer. And his performance was just lame. It wasn't that the performance was "shocking" (to the easily shockable) - it's that it wasn't anything else in addition to being shocking.
I'm reminded of my friend, who was a huge fan of Andrew Dice Clay when he was at the height of his powers (such as they were). He kept insisting that if you didn't like Andrew Dice Clay or his humor, that meant that you were too easily offended, and you needed to do some self-examination. No, I wasn't offended by Andrew Dice Clay, but I wasn't amused or entertained, either. And that's the bottom line - he's supposed to be entertaining. Adam simply wasn't entertaining. If you want to claim that that simply means I have some internalized homophobia that needs dealt with, you're more than welcome to think so. But don't expect me to agree.
What could he have done? A better song, for one. And he could've sung it better. And the antics didn't really seem to fit the song. If a song is overly horny and oozes with sexuality, sure, hump away and make out with your keyboard player. But the song didn't strike me that way in the slightest. If Whitney had stopped halfway through her song and started Frenching the conductor, I don't think people would be saying "she's asserting her sexuality". They'd wonder why the hell she started Frenching her conductor halfway through her "I'm a survivor" anthem. Similarly, I didn't think Adam's song called out for sexual antics. And as such, they were revealed for what they were - attention-getting devices.
Lex
>>>I would like to ask you, thus, what should have he done? Being openly gay and not hiding it is a way of rubbing one's sexuality in people's faces, because people feel immensely threatened by homosexuality and are obsessed about it, especially with men. Should we blame Adam for not hiding who he is?
He should've have been entertaining.
The fact that he's gay isn't a problem.
The fact that he doesn't hide it isn't a problem.
The fact that he did grinding moves with his dancers and kissed his (straight!) male keyboardist isn't a problem.
The fact that he managed to not be entertaining during all of this IS a problem.
I don't agree with those who are playing the "he's giving us a bad name" here. I don't expect him to be the poster child for homosexuality for anybody. But I do expect him to be entertaining. That's what he is - an entertainer. And his performance was just lame. It wasn't that the performance was "shocking" (to the easily shockable) - it's that it wasn't anything else in addition to being shocking.
I'm reminded of my friend, who was a huge fan of Andrew Dice Clay when he was at the height of his powers (such as they were). He kept insisting that if you didn't like Andrew Dice Clay or his humor, that meant that you were too easily offended, and you needed to do some self-examination. No, I wasn't offended by Andrew Dice Clay, but I wasn't amused or entertained, either. And that's the bottom line - he's supposed to be entertaining. Adam simply wasn't entertaining. If you want to claim that that simply means I have some internalized homophobia that needs dealt with, you're more than welcome to think so. But don't expect me to agree.
What could he have done? A better song, for one. And he could've sung it better. And the antics didn't really seem to fit the song. If a song is overly horny and oozes with sexuality, sure, hump away and make out with your keyboard player. But the song didn't strike me that way in the slightest. If Whitney had stopped halfway through her song and started Frenching the conductor, I don't think people would be saying "she's asserting her sexuality". They'd wonder why the hell she started Frenching her conductor halfway through her "I'm a survivor" anthem. Similarly, I didn't think Adam's song called out for sexual antics. And as such, they were revealed for what they were - attention-getting devices.
Lex
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Re: Adam Lambert's - For Your Entertainment Official Music Video
wow I thought I was alone. It seems like everyone on JUB are hating on him. Poor guy.
Laugh at me or not...I sort of like it. Adam has been growing on me over the past weeks
wow I thought I was alone. It seems like everyone on JUB are hating on him. Poor guy.
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Re: Adam Lambert's - For Your Entertainment Official Music Video
*Waits for the 3 positive comments and 100 negative comments*
This is more shocking than the performance? The performance had simulated oral sex both male and female, fingering a girls crotch and an impromptu kiss with another man and he flipped off the audience. This had none of that.
With that said, I enjoy the video and was that same snake from his Rolling Stone interview?
*Waits for the 3 positive comments and 100 negative comments*
This is more shocking than the performance? The performance had simulated oral sex both male and female, fingering a girls crotch and an impromptu kiss with another man and he flipped off the audience. This had none of that.
With that said, I enjoy the video and was that same snake from his Rolling Stone interview?
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Re: Adam Lambert's - For Your Entertainment Official Music Video
haha sorry. I was being sarcastic but I guess I'm not that good at it. lol.
This video is not even controversial though. I expected it to be very sexual but it turns out to be very "family friendly".
haha sorry. I was being sarcastic but I guess I'm not that good at it. lol.
This video is not even controversial though. I expected it to be very sexual but it turns out to be very "family friendly".
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Re: Adam Lambert's - For Your Entertainment Official Music Video
So why didn't he do something like this for AMA? He could have focused more on his vocals and saved the sex stuff for the video. Would have gained a lot better reaction.
So why didn't he do something like this for AMA? He could have focused more on his vocals and saved the sex stuff for the video. Would have gained a lot better reaction.
