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Re: CBS Defends Decision to Blur Adam Lambert Kiss

How many times have had to endure Carrie Prejean displaying her moral and family value assets?
 
Re: CBS Defends Decision to Blur Adam Lambert Kiss

No matter how you look at it, it all comes down to ratings and the possibility of losing valued (and necessary) viewers. They'll lose less viewers by blurring it than they would by showing it.

Of course, if it happened on Jerry Springer, the audience would be cheering and encouraging Adam and his keyboard player to 'go at it' right there on the stage.
 
Re: CBS Defends Decision to Blur Adam Lambert Kiss

LMAO, I don't think CBS actually even bought their statements. They just wanted a piece of the post controversy pie -- from a "safe" distance.
 
Re: CBS Defends Decision to Blur Adam Lambert Kiss

I don't watch soap operas but I am curious whether there are gay characters on any CBS soaps and whether any of them have had a gay kiss. I know there have been gay kisses in soaps recently but don't know which ones.

And what exactly is CBS saying about gay relationships if a mere kiss is something that must be covered up like a bad wound? Fuck them.
 
Re: CBS Defends Decision to Blur Adam Lambert Kiss

My right brain leans on the dependency that it might be a double standard - NOT homophobia, as many people are throwing out. After all, the Britney and Madonna(and Xtina) kiss was a same sex kiss. To be homophobic, you'd have to blur both - whether or not the parties are actually gay or bisexual or not(interesting to note - only Glambert is gay in these highly publicized kiss scandals).

My left brain? It's telling me that CBS doesn't want the controversy caused by an unplanned and seemingly forced kiss on a guy that may or may not be suing, on a live sham of a show that "supposed" to be more family oriented(which really, really makes me laugh btw - you can't play up the "think of the children!" angle and then have Eminem and Only-worth50-Cent on the show), so they chose not to show the photo for more reasons than meet the mere eye. The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation stating that this has to do with Adam being openly gay is silly - and that's mainly because Adam truly isn't that open about it, and continues to play as if he isn't.

This stated, i can't give you an opinion on whether they SHOULD have blurred the photo - just that it certainly got CBS the opposite of what they wanted.

I'm not sure I agree with you that homophobia wasn't a factor in their decision. Remember lesbianism and male homosexuality aren't looked at the same; lesbianism (and female bisexuality for that matter) are seen as aspects of heterosexuality. Since our culture is pretty much straight male controlled, anything that doesn't admire (objectify) the female form is seen as unnatural. Matter of fact, I remember seeing a segment of Jerry Springer (bad example I know but he proves my point) where he rails against homophobia against lesbians. Of course, a straight audience cheered with him (rolling eyes).
Here's a better question: if the country were dominated by women would homophobia be different? Since straight men fear gay men more than straight women, one wonders what would be different.
 
Re: CBS Defends Decision to Blur Adam Lambert Kiss

I used to believe that a world run by women would be a better place - and I still believe it - but a number of women have come on the scene recently who are just as scary as men.

I would have to agree that CBS wasn't as much acting out of its own homophobia as much as responding to the homophobia if not actual hatred of some of its audience. But the ironic part is that one would not expect those who hate gays to be watching the AMA's in the first place.
 
Re: CBS Defends Decision to Blur Adam Lambert Kiss

The only thing I watch on ABC is the View and only because I like Whoopi Goldberg. Other than that, ABC and its programs don't even cause a stir in my radar.
 
Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

Pokaman, the tenor range covers, most often, the two octaves ranging from c to cii (C3-C5). These are the notes that Christina Aguilera is comfortable singing in. Anything above C5 (and even C5 most of the time), seems to be torture for her. Singing even in the upper alto range isn't easy for her at all. My scales are perfectly fine, thank you.

No...just no. An octave is C to C; what you have stated is two octaves, so you obviously have no understanding music. In addition, the Cs that you have given are in the female register and tenor is a male register, C2-C3. Anyway, why do you keep bringing Christina, Celine, and Mariah into this discussion when it has nothing to do with them?

Adam has a decent amount of range at best, but it's not that great, especially since he is a high pitched tenor. He does not even have a solid three octaves.

Second, Adam has performed in musical theatre, which is a million times more demanding than pop singing. If he has survived the gruelling demands of that environment, I am sure that he will be fine. Céline, Mariah and most pop singers are massively overrated.

If Celine and Mariah are overrated, so is Adam. From a performing perspective, he lacks versatility. His vocal application is very repetitve to the point that one asks himself or herself, okay, when is he going to scream? Even on his American Idol days, he could not approach different styles of singing properly. He carried the songs, but he did not know how to manipulate his voice to suit the different styles.
 
Re: CBS Defends Decision to Blur Adam Lambert Kiss

I'm not sure I agree with you that homophobia wasn't a factor in their decision.

You don't have to be homophobic to make a business decision. They can be homophobic and still make the 'right' decision as long as they feel it will profit them. However, they don't know until they do it.

I agree with MOS. It's the 'double standard' sneaking in and not homophobia.

The executives know very well that their audience is more accepting of females kissing each other on the lips. It happens all the time in real life, and has been happening since the birth of television.

Men kissing each other on the lips, however, is taboo. Hell, you can almost see people cringing when males do the double-cheek kiss.

They knew the gamble they were taking when they decided to blur the image. They weren't homophobic. They decided it would be easier to handle the repercussions of blurring the kiss (which would possibly offend a small portion of their audience) than to display it without the blur (which would offend a hell of a lot more people).

That and the fact that they might lose sponsors if they didn't blur the kiss.

It all comes down to M$O$N$E$Y.
 
Re: CBS Defends Decision to Blur Adam Lambert Kiss

CBS is full of crap. Go ahead and try to justify your dumbass move.

Back peddle faster into your bullshit.
 
Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

I wish he would have just performed the song well.

Then I could have some way of defending him.
 
Re: Adam Lambert's Album Cover

Can't believe the album cover made such a big deal to some. Album covers are dull and bland most of the time, it's good that someone decides not to conform and does something different.

Hopefully, the music is great and he doesn't do anymore AMA-like performances.
 
Re: Adam Lambert's Album Cover

You know what is sad?

I know for a fact if Adam Lambert was my type of man I would be all over his shit.


In other words if I wanted to fuck him

I would buy all his music for myself and everyone here.
 
Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

Or that's his current image. :)

Lex
 
Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

I think it'll depend on how people respond to JMA (Jus' Music Adam). My gut feeling is that people will find it enjoyable, and him talented...but the crowds will start drying up really quickly, as they wander off to find other enjoyable, talented singers. (Such is the AI way.) At which point, he'll lather on the guyliner and start practicing simulating getting rimmed by a backing dancer onstage. How long will this take? Ordinarily, I'd say a year or so, but he's managed to condense the "make a big splash, shock the shockable, apologize and return to roots" thing from five years to about a month. At this rate, I might see him on the State Farm circuit by summer.

Lex
 
Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

From Twitter today:

adamlambert

ellen:airing 2m.Singing 'whatya want from me'! AMA performance was a one time event. Goin in a new direction now. Focus back on the music.

adamlambert

Don't worry friends: I'm still gonna be me. Always. W/o appologies. Just gonna experiment differently w how I present myself.

Okay, I agree that what he's done so far has been ridiculously stupid (whether he directed the events, or his management company did, is beside the point): he pissed off a lot of us with those horrendous "Details" magazine photos; his "Out" magazine article didn't help in ANY way; and then he pissed off everyone else with the raunchiness of his AMA performance (apparently a lot of us didn't like the f/m part of it, and a lot of others didn't like the m/m part of it, and still others didn't like any of it).

I do have sympathy for him, though. Being a very popular Out performer isn't easy, and I think people should be forgiving of his mistakes. Perhaps he's learned to have some integrity, and to think before he leaps. The gay community is definitely a major part of his fan base (albeit not as much as the straight female faction) and maybe he'll respect himself and us a little bit better... or maybe his management company will. Who knows? Let's remember that he is only human.
 
Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

It would appear that either Adam or his people have finally decided the antics are a career killer and it's time to focus on um, the MUSIC.

From Twitter today:

adamlambert

ellen:airing 2m.Singing 'whatya want from me'! AMA performance was a one time event. Goin in a new direction now. Focus back on the music.

adamlambert

Don't worry friends: I'm still gonna be me. Always. W/o appologies. Just gonna experiment differently w how I present myself.
I called it from the start.

This guy is playing everyone. He wants to come out of the gate doing crazy shit to get everyone's attention, then just before he wears out his welcome he'll reign it all in to legitimize himself. Then when his album sales begin to sag, he'll do more crazy shit for attention. It's all a game. He plays the media and the public like a fiddle.
 
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