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After Recently Coming Out (Long Post)

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I’ve been a long-time lurker, but I would like to see what advice you guys would have here. Please bear with me, this is probably going to be a long post, but thanks in advance for reading it.

To cut the big stuff out, I had feelings that I was gay when I was 14. I just graduated from a New England Boarding school (I’m 19 now, repeated a year there to get the entire curriculum), and midway through my senior year there, I couldn’t hold back the truth anymore (especially after seeing out winter play, The Most Fabulous Story Ever Told). I started to come out to most of my close friends. They were very supportive and I was very appreciative. I had one very close friend who would help me through all of the feelings that were going through my head, especially when I heard that a leak had gotten through to the 330+ student body. He was really helpful and reaped all the benefits he could from having a gay best friend. I was prepared for the possible backlash, but nothing came even though people told me the entire school knew. When I saw the opportunity, I spoke at two schools through an organization named Boston PFLAG, one of them my own, about my experience coming out, but more importantly, about what happened between me and my mom. When I spoke at my own school about coming out, I thought it was already known because of what some people told me. But actually I was coming out to the entire school for the first time there (that fact, I found out the day after). Nevertheless, I did it, and I’m glad I did because people did tell me that it would leave a lasting impression on the school that would make it a bit safer, even after I left.

Onto the task at hand, thank goodness I was away at school when I felt I had to tell my mom. It was the Monday after Easter, 10:30 at night. I called her and told her due to a pressure I still can't explain to this day, two months later. She was in complete disbelief, said things like “you’re just testing my reactions, and you’ll probably call me in a few weeks and tell me the real truth.” Or that she was in a dream. I kept telling her it was the reality, and she said that she still loved me, “BUT.” That “BUT” was a bit too huge for me. After I hung up, she tried calling me back, but I was texting my friends who I previously told to let them know of the step I took. It did look like I shut my phone off, but that was not the case. In any measure, I picked up the phone and she said she saw this in a dream. Whatever was what I thought, I knew there was a part of her love that died then anyway. I tried to go to classes the next day and failed miserably. I left the school for two days (I stayed in our health center), and I got myself back together. But I didn’t talk to her for a week. Our main health counselor talked to her to ease the pain. I didn’t call her until I had a reason to.

3 weeks later, she comes up to the school because I was receiving a diversity award. I was dreading the day. She came up, was happy to see me, acted like nothing happened. After the ceremony, we had a conversation that lasted a good hour and 15 minutes. She told me very candidly all of the things she was going through those two days that I was out of school. She was upset, blaming everything, trying to find some explanation. Even mentioned a passing thought if my deceased father was a closeted homosexual (that scared me). We came to the conclusion that she still doesn’t accept it as a reality, but at the very least she was able to say “I love you.” With no but after it. I didn’t feel any better after the conversation. I relied on my friends and my teachers who supported me through my diminishing time there. A month later, I graduated, and now I’m home with her. I’m trying to live like I always have, but it’s quite obvious that things have changed between me and her. My cousin was staying with us for a week, and she talked to him about it (he’s the first person I told). He told me to stop shutting my mom out. Except I haven’t talked about it to her because she hasn’t asked. We're talking like we always have, except with an underlying sense that something is still wrong between us. I have to stay another 4 weeks here before I have to go up to college for a summer program, and that without all of my friends who were supporting me. I want this month to be as smooth as possible. I don’t really know how to approach talking about this with her especially because when we had that conversation, she tried to ask me how I knew I was gay and failed in understanding what I told her. I finally have unrestricted access to this site as well, so now I can keep up with you guys if you have any advice on the situation. Currently, I’m single, and I like it that way, but I don’t know what to do about my mom to be honest.

Just a bit more info for you guys: I had a relationship that lasted two months of the summer before I went to the boarding school, so I have just a bit of experience there but it probably wasn't enough. I’ve been lambasted under every derogatory gay term you can think of while staying silent by others just being ignorant, but was able to actually call someone out on it after I came out at my school. I tried my best to hide the fact I was gay around the dorms at my school so as not to make anyone feel uncomfortable, before and after coming out. I will try and ease my way into another relationship if it comes about, but I’m not going out to find one just for the sake of having one. I honestly don’t plan on coming back home and living with my mom unless I absolutely have to from now on. I am glad to be going into a completely new environment, college, so I can start over being openly gay. But before that, it's the relationship between me and my mom that I'm worried about.
 
All you need to do for your mother is leave the door open for conversation. If you feel she needs to know that the door is open, then say something along those lines. "I still get the feeling that there's still this elephant in the room here. Just wanted you to know that I'm open to talk about it if you want."

But here's the deal. You have to be willing to TALK to her about it. Not feel betrayed by her reactions. Not blame her for "loving you less". Not insist that she must accept you completely and totally on your terms. Just TALK to her. Factually.

The thing is - you had years to come to grips with your sexuality. When you first told your mother, she had - what? A couple minutes? And the things she said were probably things you thought of (even if briefly) when you were first getting used to your sexuality. "Why am I gay?" "It's probably just a phase." But you, like many people. expect other people to just jump straight to the acceptance phase, even though it rarely worked like that for us.

Your mother sounds like she's making strides. It's only been two months, and she's not criticizing or antagonizing you. She'll presumably come to accept it more thoroughly with time. (Meeting your first 'real' boyfriend tends to help a lot.) Just remain calm and helpful.

Lex
 
Sometimes there's a weakness or flaw in a building that doesn't become apparent until there's a big stressor- like a storm or an earthquake. Until then, everything looks great.

And that's what happened here. There's been a lot of issues between you and your mother in the past. You're uncertain of her love and acceptance. She struggles to accept that things aren't going to be the picture perfect way she expected them to be.

Probably the best thing for your mother is to listen to the stories of other parents who have been through what she has been through. Why isn't she attending PFLAG meetings?

If you and your mother are committed to a new and better relationship, then counseling is probably a good idea. Your coming out is only the stressor- the flaws in your relationship have been there for some time.

If you want to build an adult relationship based upon honesty and love, then you're both going to have to commit to working on it.
 
Lex, I'd never really thought about that before, and it really is true. We all go through years and years of processing and then expect those around us to just jump straight to acceptance.

Iniquity, I'd give your mum the benefit of the doubt. She sounds like she's doing the best she can with what she's got, and I'd agree with Lex that YOU need to keep the doors open as well. Two lines stick out for me:

"Except I haven’t talked about it to her because she hasn’t asked" and "I don’t really know how to approach talking about this with her"

Now put yourself in your mum's shoes. Think about how hard it would be to try and initiate a conversation about something you're feeling a bit uncomfortable with, don't really know much about, and at the same time you're worried about stepping on the other person's toes and saying the wrong thing.

Try and be a bit proactive. You don't have to bring up the gay elephant in the room, but do let your mum know you're really open to talking and are willing to take the lead.
 
Thank you all for the helpful comments. I will try what you have said, doing stuff on my end so I lessen my awkward portion of this situation. When thinking about how things have been lately, it does seem like there's no downside to opening it up on my end. Thanks again.
 
Hey, guys. Things are getting better. I told her last night that I'm still up for talking about anything and apologized in advance if I inadvertedly shut down from her. I felt a nice and strong connection just hanging out with my mom tonight, laughing about the things we used to and just talking about random stuff. I don't think the door is completely open and the awkwardness is completely eradicated, but tonight was definitely a step in the right direction. I hope it continues that way.
 
First off:

You are amazing. You don't realize it, but you are probably the strongest person you know. I can say from personal experience... from growing up in a privileged and socially liberal area (the kind that most of the people in our generation would whole-heartedly accept homosexuality as nothing more than a fact about someone) I could have never done what you did. Not while still in high school. Not that young. Not while I still financially depended on my parents. Never. Not in a million years. Not for a million dollars. You couldn't pay me to.

Secondly, I hope you somehow learn to forgive your mom. I know how you feel. The whole "but" thing is exactly what you don't want to happen. That single word being uttered by one of your parents shows the worst you could expect. What you prayed wouldn't be true... that our parent's love for us is fickle... and that it comes with conditions. The thing that I realized is that most parents, while they just want us to be happy... they want us to be happy on their accord. What we want couldn't matter less. But one day, when you're so clearly happy because of some guy you met, she'll accept it.
 
Re: After Recently Coming Out (Long Post 2)

Hey, guys. So, my time with my mom is just about coming to a close. Monday she leaves to go on vacation to the Bahamas, leaving me home alone. I decided to go up to Boston to visit some friends. But the day after she gets back is the day I must go to college for summer classes. So I'm on my own pretty much after this weekend.

It's been interesting. From what I've gathered, it does seem like she's fully accepted my status as openly gay now. But I did get a few clear signs that there are certain things she still hopes I don't become. For one, she hopes I never become flamboyant. She's lucky; I'm a stoic person most of the time and I still hide my emotions from anyone who would freak out if they found out until I'm ready to say it to them as a non-issue. Believe it or not, there's still many like that in my life. She's asked me if I knew this or that celebrity is gay. I kind of brushed it off though since I'm not that huge into gossip. But our general conversations have been absolutely brilliant. I even watched an episode of Glee with her where one of the characters came out; I noticed a positive change in her demeanor around the subject.

Something she told me tonight has me thinking though. She went out with two of her friends, both of which have one child, both having struggles. The two children are my friends from a long time ago; we grew up on the same blocks together. The girl is pregnant and the guy is rebelling greatly against his mom. My mom said she almost outed me; she was about to tell them that I was gay in order to basically join the ranks of saying that we all have children with issues that we're deaing with. I was flat out with her telling her thank you for NOT doing that. I did not want her to tell them in that context just to feel like she could coincide with the fact they're all having problems. But then again, I don't have that right, do I, to tell her who she can and can't tell? Is it her perogative? Since I won't be home for lengthy periods of time anymore, should I be even worried if she tells people back here who I might see and who's reaction might be less even desired? I don't know.

All of this tonight has led me to believe I should just go on with life. I love my mom and she loves me. Some decisions we may not agree upon, but we both have new beginnings in front of us. I decided that while I'm at college I'm going to open up my emotional/relationship life for the first time in 3 years. Even though I still have to come back home sometimes, I hope my mom continues to show her support, even if with a few lapses, as I continue to discover what it truly means to be me.

I thought I'd let you guys know what the past 3 weeks have been like in New York. Check out my blog to see what I've been able to come up with on the writing end too. Thanks for all of your support and advice, guys.
 
After reading what you have written here and in your blog, I can't see how your mother could not be very proud of you. You may have caught her off guard when you came out to her, but she will get over it. You are the same person. You haven't changed. I hope you never do anything to disappoint her.
 
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