Anti gay conservatives have been right all along

[NotHardUp1]

It's not social science. Finding out the cause of homosexuality will be a huge benefit to humanity. It will help greatly with people who relate more to rabbits than actual human beings.

What would psychology and sociology and child development be then? Agronomy? Of course it's social science. Your response suggests you are convinced it is purely biological, and that has not been proven. It is a possibility. It is behavioral.

I don't think it's possible to nurture out of a boy if pussy and tits give him a boner........

Same. Your supposition is dependent upon the reactions to stimuli as being innate. The theory would be that the sexual development would have been influenced by environmental conditions in the nurturing of the child.

That also requires you to explain how and why the women are more fluid in sexuality, why their attraction isn't limited to women or men exclusively.

 

[gsdx]

What would psychology and sociology and child development be then? Agronomy? Of course it's social science. Your response suggests you are convinced it is purely biological, and that has not been proven. It is a possibility. It is behavioral.

Indeed. As I said earlier, people have been searching for a cause for ages and have found none. And now, with the help of genetic research, many are convinced (as is aristomniac) that the answer lies there. But a gay gene does not explain what a completely heterosexual man who has never even had a homosexual experience, can become completely gay in certain circumstances, such as being sent to prison for 25 years and revert once more when finally released. Not only that, straight men are not necessarily 'tops'.

The biggest problem with trying to find a cause is the fact that people think that homosexuality is a strictly human trait. It isn't. Homosexuality is very common throughout the animal kingdom.

 

[Pierresro]

I was married and Have two grown sons they are straighter than anyone I know this report by rigth wing ass holes is shit!

 

[peeonme]

Indeed. As I said earlier, people have been searching for a cause for ages and have found none. And now, with the help of genetic research, many are convinced (as is aristomniac) that the answer lies there. But a gay gene does not explainnd rever what a completely heterosexual man who has never even had a homosexual experience, can become completely gay in certain circumstances, such as being sent to prison for 25 years at once more when finally released. Not only that, straight men are not necessarily 'tops'.

The biggest problem with trying to find a cause is the fact that people think that homosexuality is a strictly human trait. It isn't. Homosexuality is very common throughout the animal kingdom.

As a youth I saw this behavior, boys in their late teens that were sexually active with girls had no hang up turning to boys to fill their needs when that was all that was available. I have often wondered if with totally gay men if it isn't so much the attraction to other men so much as a non attraction or almost a sexual aversion toward women. If a totally gay man were to be trapped on an island with women only around him, would he turn to them for sex? We have to take into account that totally straight men may never turn to men for sex under any circumstances either which raises the issue of how many straight men are actually 'bi'.

 

[mikey3000]

I agree. Having been a "totally straight" man for 37 years then crossing the floor, I know it is possible. And I know guys who have gone the other way too, from loud and proud to having a wife and kids. People are strange, but it's all ok.

 

[NotHardUp1]

I was married and Have two grown sons they are straighter than anyone I know this report by rigth wing ass holes is shit!

The report wasn't conservative or right wing. The fact that its data might be subsequently used, or that the OP contextualized it as new for conservatives doesn't make the researchers or their study so.

Read the article. Then explain how the study is conservative. The researchers went out of their way to explain that the children did not suffer any mental health issues, which would never have been asserted by a conservative sponsored study.

If the data is somehow inconvenient, it is not necessarily conclusive, as it was only 76 children. Resorting to expletives for denouncement only reveals your evaluation of the data is pejorative, not scientific.

And if you'd bothered to read the article, your sons would be irrelevant to the study unless you and your spouse are lesbians.

 

[Dominus]

As a youth I saw this behavior, boys in their late teens that were sexually active with girls had no hang up turning to boys to fill their needs when that was all that was available. I have often wondered if with totally gay men if it isn't so much the attraction to other men so much as a non attraction or almost a sexual aversion toward women. If a totally gay man were to be trapped on an island with women only around him, would he turn to them for sex? We have to take into account that totally straight men may never turn to men for sex under any circumstances either which raises the issue of how many straight men are actually 'bi'.

There are varying levels of sexuality. Most people are somewhere in the grey area of the spectrum. A few are strictly one or the other.

I, for example, happen to be strictly gay. I've tried to be with girls. Believe me, I've tried. You name it, I've tried it. I couldn't even get an erection, let alone maintaining one for the female body.

I've even tried jerking to gay porn and then go at it with a girl. Lost it almost immediately.

If you lock me up in a womens prison, I'll be jerking off to the wall before I do it to one of the women in there.

I'm convinced the human/animal biology is just a complicated machine. And with any machine out there, it can be tweaked, changed, repurposed, etc.

Edit.

Probably why I have such a hard time relating to most people, even the gay ones. Most people are not in the extreme like I am. I bet that most of you guys here if need be can have sex with a woman. You guys can't even imagine what it's like to be incapable of it at all.

 

[mikey3000]

And for me, I might be dead centre of the spectrum. I don't care about their genetalia, I am way more interested in their other characteristics, their personality. I can make what ever I find between their legs work.

 

[gsdx]

Probably why I have such a hard time relating to most people, even the gay ones. Most people are not in the extreme like I am. I bet that most of you guys here if need be can have sex with a woman. You guys can't even imagine what it's like to be incapable of it at all.

You are not unique, so stop thinking that you are and accusing others here of not being able to understand what it was like for you. Again, you are NOT unique.

You want to think that there is a single cause. There isn't. I studied homosexuality in university almost 50 years ago. Back then, it was part of the 'abnormal psychology' curriculum. Even back then, there were too many factors to determine a cause. Genetics doesn't change that.

Trying to say that there is a single cause for homosexuality is like saying that there is a single cause for serial murderers or rapists or paedophiles or thieves or abusers of every sort.

It does not exist.

 

[peeonme]

There are varying levels of sexuality. Most people are somewhere in the grey area of the spectrum. A few are strictly one or the other.

I, for example, happen to be strictly gay. I've tried to be with girls. Believe me, I've tried. You name it, I've tried it. I couldn't even get an erection, let alone maintaining one for the female body.

I've even tried jerking to gay porn and then go at it with a girl. Lost it almost immediately.

If you lock me up in a womens prison, I'll be jerking off to the wall before I do it to one of the women in there.

I'm convinced the human/animal biology is just a complicated machine. And with any machine out there, it can be tweaked, changed, repurposed, etc.

Edit.

Probably why I have such a hard time relating to most people, even the gay ones. Most people are not in the extreme like I am. I bet that most of you guys here if need be can have sex with a woman. You guys can't even imagine what it's like to be incapable of it at all.

You are right that there are few that are totally str8 or gay. But even in the grey area where a guy could go either way there are preferences. Some guys find women more appealing but guys are ok also. On the other end, guys are hotter, but girls are fun too.
Add to that guys that are emotionally attracted to women, but are more sexually attracted to men, or visa versa. I thought that I was gay for years because I liked dick, pure and simple. Then found that my 'fear' of being attracted to men was totally overshadowing my attraction to females. I was so obsessed with one that I ignored the other. Some days women look so hot, other days forget it. Sexuality is far more complex than we seem to realize. It's not just how we are wired, it's when the switch was flipped and who flipped it. Was it a 'good' experience? That is where the psychological aspect enters in.

 

[Dominus]

You are not unique, so stop thinking that you are and accusing others here of not being able to understand what it was like for you. Again, you are NOT unique.

You want to think that there is a single cause. There isn't. I studied homosexuality in university almost 50 years ago. Back then, it was part of the 'abnormal psychology' curriculum. Even back then, there were too many factors to determine a cause. Genetics doesn't change that.

Trying to say that there is a single cause for homosexuality is like saying that there is a single cause for serial murderers or rapists or paedophiles or thieves or abusers of every sort.

It does not exist.

Gee wiz, you really don't like me do you? Your responses to me, no matter what topic, always have a tone of hostility. It's as if you take everything I say as a personal attack on you.

Oh yeah, stay tuned for a thread on your claim that fasting causes diabetes. I finally had some time and looked it up. I was actually surprised by what I've found.