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Are Straight Men Automatically Sexier Than Gay Men?

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For me, straight guys have always automatically been sexier than gay men, it seems.

Not every straight guy out there... but I theorize that so many gay men have crushes on straight men simply because they're straight.

When I was young and figuring out my sexuality, I didn't have crushes on the gay guys. I liked the masculine, tough straight boys.

I STILL like those kinds of guys.

What about you? Do you desire straight men?

I heard actor Harvey Fierstein say in an interview back in the '80s, "Oh, no, I'm not attracted to straight men!"

I thought that was the stupidest lie I had ever heard.
 
Straight men don't have that powerful pheromone scent that gay guys do; gay men smell 2.5 times more sexually attractive to me, another gay male, making them all the more desirable.

Straight men don't have any attraction to me; which depletes at least half my sexual attraction to them. I get really turned on by sexual attraction towards me. No, it's not "Narcisism" (even though some will probably continue to try to say that it is), it's biological reproduction in play.

(Most) Straight men don't have the slight "cute" tone in their voices, which many to most masc. and fem. high-pitched and low-pitched gay guys have. They don't have to act flamboyant and overtly "effeminate" to have this biological vocal tone. This vocal tone marks them as 'potentially reproductively compatible' with me, another male seeking a male. Again, biology in play.

Straight men usually do not relate emotionally to me at a deeper level of understanding, as straight women and gay men do. Straight men are "chill" and "cool" with things, which is great. But, when I am distraught, discouraged, remorseful, yearn-some, etc., their responses to me in these situations don't seem to be at the same wavelength as mine and, therefore, usually cannot uplift me emotionally, no matter how hard they try. In fact, a lot of them get irritated by my deep feelings, which I have no probably expressing. Not their fault; it's merely the difference in sexual neurological processes at work.

Straight men, over all, are a different creature. A lot of the ways they biologically are do not activate and stimulate my reproductive system. And that's fine with me. They're not bad. I simply look for those males who are sexually provoking to me, which is usually gay men.

There are a few exceptions, though. I have found a few straight guys cute and attractive.
 
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Well it depends on the guy though str8 guys do look good too
 
Rocky said:
For me, straight guys have always automatically been sexier than gay men, it seems.

Not every straight guy out there... but I theorize that so many gay men have crushes on straight men simply because they're straight.

When I was young and figuring out my sexuality, I didn't have crushes on the gay guys. I liked the masculine, tough straight boys.

I STILL like those kinds of guys.

What about you? Do you desire straight men?

I heard actor Harvey Fierstein say in an interview back in the '80s, "Oh, no, I'm not attracted to straight men!"

I thought that was the stupidest lie I had ever heard.
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I think the desire for straight guys is a desire built on shame and feelings of inferiority. It's why I fantasize about straight guys telling me I'm a worthless faggot.
 
CbForU said:
I think the desire for straight guys is a desire built on shame and feelings of inferiority. It's why I fantasize about straight guys telling me I'm a worthless faggot.
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Bingo. If you find yourself fetishizing straight men, that has to do with your feelings about yourself. Everybody's favorite neurosis, internalized homophobia!

If you find gay unattractive in yourself, you'll dislike it in other men. I personally want to fuck every hot guy I see, but if he turns out to be straight, well, frustration is not attractive. If you like butch guys, there are plenty of gay guys out there who also won't date a f***** (more for me.) Y'all should get together and pretend to be straight and seduce each other, maybe start an app. Self loathing isn't attractive either. The good news is that the more comfortable you get with your own gay, the quicker this disappears.

Frankly I want head, and I want it a lot, and if you won't suck my cock, I have no time for you.
 
Never had a crush on a straight guy, so, no, to me, they're not sexier. But many gay guys - just like straight guys - want what they consider "unavailable."

The more you like yourself, the less you will find unavailable guys sexier. Which means you'll start liking your own tribe.

And to think Harvey Fierstein must be lying when he said he was not attracted to straight guys just means you can't see the truth in his reality. Just because he's effeminate doesn't mean he HAS to like straight guys. What IS a lie is that every gay man has had a crush on a straight guy. Jeez...people propagate the silliest myths.
 
Well, all I'm saying is if all the gay guys around me looked and acted like Harvey Fierstein, I'd have no choice but to fantasize about hot straight guys.
 
Rocky said:
Well, all I'm saying is if all the gay guys around me looked and acted like Harvey Fierstein, I'd have no choice but to fantasize about hot straight guys.
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no, what you said was:

Rocky said:
For me, straight guys have always automatically been sexier than gay men, it seems.

Not every straight guy out there... but I theorize that so many gay men have crushes on straight men simply because they're straight...
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(emphasis mine)

Which says nothing about me or Harvey, or any other gay man howsoever he might be, but tons about you. MANY, many, many, many gay men out there recognize the syndrome since so many of us went through it.

I myself spent a couple of years calling myself SA/SA and wouldn't even fuck anyone who wasn't a hyper butch, usually douchebag - because guys with issues about themselves are not generally well grounded. C'est la vie. I got over it, hopefully you will too.
 
Wouldn't waste a second of my time with a straight guy, far too many hot guys out there who need to be fucked.
 
I have to emphasize myself:
Gay men are the most beautiful creatures on the face of the planet; doesn't matter if their butch or femme-acting. They're too sexually gratifying to me. I look up at the sky with goo-goo eyes and inspirations in my mind (and my dyck) every time I come into contact with or deal with a gay guy. I almost even walked into a pole once.

I hope no one thinks there's anything mentally wrong with me. :D
 
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I'm sure there are many great, hot gay guys, but I've met a lot who do NOTHING for me.

Meanwhile, there are lots of hot straight guys.

It's how I see the world, and I don't care if you think I've got tons of problems for it. I am not interested in really gay acting men to date. If I find the right person, though, no matter how they act, then I found the right person, but it still doesn't change that I've met a lot of gay guys who don't turn me on.
 
To answer your question: no. Not to me. Some guys are sexy and some aren't, regardless of being gay, straight, bi or whatever they call themselves.
What I find sexy in a man are physical or personal traits (eyes, lips, muscles, facial hair, confidence, education...), not their sexual preference.
 
Rocky, how do you see yourself? Because in a strange way it kind of seems like you're putting yourself down in a roundabout way. If straight men are automatically sexier then what is that saying about you?

I don't really agree that straight men are sexier but I think I understand why that is something a lot of gay men find themselves thinking and I think it's worthwhile to examine that.

I think part of what's going on is that there's a skewing of perception where there's this tallying up straight guys that are found attractive but not comparing and tallying up the straight guys that aren't. There are more straight people in the world, so of the people someone could be attracted to in a random sampling the candidates are more likely to be straight because there are more of them.

Related to that, there's a heightened awareness of gay people that are unattractive because there's a comparison being made between unattractive gay people and attractive straight people when it would make more sense to compare attractive straight people to attractive gay people or compare unattractive gay people to unattractive straight people.

Most of us are attracted to a narrow range of people, so it's totally unsurprising that if attractiveness is being compared to unattractiveness that it's going to skew towards straightness.

This mindset also probably stems from some assumptions. Because in reality, most people probably aren't asking all these people they find attractive if they're straight or not. So a bunch of those guys that are attractive could very easily be into men and their straightness is just being assumed.

And I have to wonder, what does this mean about bisexual men? Are they less attractive than straight men but more attractive than gay men?

It seems to me like it's probably the case that there's no correlation between sexuality and attractiveness.
But there's something I've seen that might be a better explanation for what's going on, and it relates to a type of a gay person. 'Gay acting' men, men that are more willing to break certain gender expectations, tend to go to spaces explicitly designated for gay people.
In part because its one of the spaces that are accepting of them. Being that way isn't the easy thing in this society.

So places that are openly inviting to them will have a skewed ratio of them to 'straight acting' gay men because the 'straight acting' men are more accepted and can have their needs met in other spaces.

And of course there's always the possibility of it partially being a fetish thing. Straight men aren't supposed to like men so if a gay or bi man manages to seduce the supposedly unobtainable it could give quite the buzz. I think that speaks to heir-to-the-winds' comment pretty nicely.
 
This is no different than Black men who chase after White man, because they are "automatically more desirable."

For those of us Blacks in our right minds, we recognize a Black man who wishes he wasn't Black. He's usually angry, doesn't like himself, and CLEARLY doesn't like his skin color. It wouldn't matter if the Black brother looked like Michael Straham, and was just as masculine. The tape that runs in that mind is corrupted, and the person goes thru their entire life like this. I have yet to see a Black guy who lusts after White men suddenly say, "Damn, I been overlooking some fine men." There's nothing that can be done with this level of "they're better, I'm lesser." I used to find myself thinking, "Why the f**k is he gonna want you if you think you're not as good as him." But people are self-destructive, and in greater numbers than most people believe.
And again, your whack idea that Harvey - due to his effeminateness - does not have a clearer sense of self than you do is YOUR lie, not his, just like the gay Black men who find it impossible to believe that a Black men does not find White men far more attractive. I know plenty of Black men who wouldn't touch White men with a 10-foot pole and actually think White men are devils in human form. And in many cases, I agree with them.
 
So if someone gave me the option between either Bruce Willis for a husband - or RuPaul - and I pick Bruce Willis, I'm hating myself?
 
I think you'd be hating yourself in either scenario. Bruce Willis because it'd be a loveless marriage doomed to failure because Bruce wouldn't love or want to have sex with you and RuPaul because it'd be a loveless marriage doomed to failure because you wouldn't love or want to have sex with RuPaul.

It's kind of a strange response in my mind. What was the point you were trying to get across to mcbrion? That you do love yourself? Because if that's what you meant I'd be interested in you writing out specifically what you love about yourself. I think that'd be good for you. Really, it'd be good for anyone.

The point mcbrion seems to be getting at from what I see, is that if you believe straight people have an innate quality that makes them attractive then it would follow that you're saying you are innately not as attractive. And that it's probably untrue. Do you wish you weren't gay?
 
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I think you'd be hating yourself in either scenario. Bruce Willis because it'd be a loveless marriage doomed to failure because Bruce wouldn't love or want to have sex with you and RuPaul because it'd be a loveless marriage doomed to failure because you wouldn't love or want to have sex with RuPaul.

It's kind of a strange response in my mind. What was the point you were trying to get across to mcbrion? That you do love yourself? Because if that's what you meant I'd be interested in you writing out specifically what you love about yourself. I think that'd be good for you. Really, it'd be good for anyone.

The point mcbrion seems to be getting at from what I see, is that if you believe straight people have an innate quality that makes them attractive then it would follow that you're saying you are innately not as attractive. And that it's probably untrue. Do you wish you weren't gay?
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I don't really believe in "gay" anymore. I think everyone's got the potential to experience sexual attraction to either gender. You may not agree, but there was a time I wouldn't have, either.

I labeled myself "gay" here because it's easier - I'm mainly attracted to men.

No, I don't think I'm hating myself at all when I'm attracted to straight men. Can't I just simply desire someone for being attractive?

I'm not saying I wouldn't ever be with a gay guy. I absolutely would and realistically, I hope I find a gay man - or whatever he identifies as.

But this hating yourself thing because you like straight men... true, there are gay guys who think they're inferior and get turned on by being that way to straight men. Hell, I can be turned on by that. But I mean - so what? So what if a person is that way? I think you guys are the ones with the problem here. You see problems where none exist. But that's all I'm gonna say about that.
 
Rocky said:
I don't really believe in "gay" anymore. I think everyone's got the potential to experience sexual attraction to either gender. You may not agree, but there was a time I wouldn't have, either.

I labeled myself "gay" here because it's easier - I'm mainly attracted to men.

No, I don't think I'm hating myself at all when I'm attracted to straight men. Can't I just simply desire someone for being attractive?

I'm not saying I wouldn't ever be with a gay guy. I absolutely would and realistically, I hope I find a gay man - or whatever he identifies as.

But this hating yourself thing because you like straight men... true, there are gay guys who think they're inferior and get turned on by being that way to straight men. Hell, I can be turned on by that. But I mean - so what? So what if a person is that way? I think you guys are the ones with the problem here. You see problems where none exist. But that's all I'm gonna say about that.
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Getting pissy and defensive just makes everyone think he hit the target - and face it, you told us the defining characteristic you found attractive is that he's straight. YOU said that. Own it. Adding on this "well no one is really straight/gay" stuff on the end like that looks suspiciously like you're trying to justify away the fact that you're choosing unhealthy impossibilities because of neurosis, here it is, no straight man will ever want you.

They won't.

Not a one.

Because they're straight.

Pining about them is pointless and yes, you are going to be attracted to who you are attracted to, but that's influenced by whatever shit is going on in your head. I suspect you were expecting a chorus of people agreeing and sympathizing, but really, you started off by telling all of us that you found us lesser than straight men - and yes, that is what YOU said. Both fortunately and unfortunately for you, a whole lot of us don't hold that against you because we know exactly where it comes from, and why it's in your head.

Now, no one in here is telling you to do anything or date anyone, you asked strangers on the internet for comment, and you got it. Feel free to ignore whatever you want to ignore, but don't start complaining that you got exactly what you asked for.

Here's a thought. maybe consider that people who are all pretty much telling you the same damn thing in different ways, might know what they're talking about.

Gay men are trained from birth to dislike themselves, that they are "lesser" because of being gay, it's not a surprise that a bunch of us have issues with liking who we are, and that this expresses itself in who we find attractive, that's the core of your original comment. It just is.
 
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