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Are YOU a Social Justice Warrior?

pat grimshaw said:
Are you a Social Justice Warrior like Kris Klewie, Neal Gottlieb and J Justin Wilson?

Do you make speeches at other people and tell them how to behave?
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I wouldn't consider myself one. I mean, if you're pro-life and heavily conservative or religious and that works for you, then, that's nice and good for you.

And hell no, if a person isn't verbally harassing me because I don't follow or believe what they do, I don't give a left nut.

It's the moment you start pushing your views on others, involve your religious beliefs/agenda onto others when I have a problem. I really don't consider myself left or right, I like the middle, the gray area because both sides when extreme lead to censorship and if there's something I'm whole-heartedly against, it's that; censorship.
 
Centipede said:
...It's the moment you start pushing your views on others, involve your religious beliefs/agenda onto others when I have a problem. ...
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This dumb Social Justice Warrior insists that anyone who doesn't follow her notions is a "Nazi".

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Social Justice Warriors seem to be incapable of nuance.
 
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This intersectional,TERF & SWERF-hating Social Justice Warrior feels qualified to go and abuse strangers in the middle of London because they're a self-acknowledged 'crazy cat lady' and a survivor of Borderline Personality Disorder.

:rolleyes:
 
I guess Mahatma Gandhi was a Social Justice Warrior.

He didn't have a Twitter account but all his publicity was handled for him by Beaverbrook and Rothermere.
 
mikey3000 said:
SJW lost all credibility after they squashed, "Baby it's cold outside."
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G-Lexington said:
"It's always hilarious to hear SJW used as an insult. "Social justice warrior" is the basic plot of most '80s action shows and cartoons. Arriving in places and fighting against discrimination? The A-Team were social justice warriors. It's practically a synonym for Knight Rider. Insulting someone for respecting other people is like insulting them for masturbating -- the fact you don't do it has way more to do with why you're so upset all the time." - Luke McKinney

Lec
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Therein lies the rub. SJW became a curseword because of its excesses. Mr. McKinney deliberately evades what the actions of SJW have been in order to excuse the excesses that got them branded. "Warrior" became a synonym for Don Quixote-ism, and misguided crusading that doesn't actually solve a problem and errantly demonizes harmless or mundane things.

Opposed domestic abuse? Check.
Support a safety net for the poor? Check.
Advocate for equality and oppose discrimination against LGBTQ persons? Check.

Portray all masculinity or male dominance as rape or mysogyny? No check.
Characterize all criminals as blameless victims of the system and unaccountable? No check.
Send transexuals and drag queens in to early elementary grade settings and deliberately scare parents with imagery of deviance? No check.

Revisiting and purging history of all sorts of things is something that used to be written up in Totalitarian-averse novels, as trademarks of censorship used by those attempting mind control against free thought. Now, it has become a norm in the U.S., and the major media and big business eagerly lap it up. Not only is the majority opinion of the citizenry ignored, it's scolded by a minority who knows better and seeks to use its leverage via shaming and being loud.

Unfortunately, the far right caught on to such tactics and has been quite good at deploying the same. The swing of the nation to the right is a product of just such propaganda.
 
unloadonme said:
How the hell are you?
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Douggie complained 3 years ago that I was frittering away too much of my time here in JUB Land. But he has relented and allowed me to return.

I do feel somewhat of a stranger here, and I've forgotten how to navigate around.]
 
Interesting that when someone greets Belamo's return as Pat Grimshaw in his thread, look who turns up.

Like saying Beetlejuice three times.
 
Of course now that the right labels everyone and everything they don't like as 'Woke', and have become active in banning drag and banning books and fighting with Disney, they have become the SJW's of this decade. Only they see Social Justice goals quite differently. For them it means fighting against anything that challenges a CIS White Straight Misogynist hegemony. They are very vocal in their rage against equity or equality.

The MAGAT's and the people complaining about M&M's and Blue Light cans have put the liberal SJW's to shame by their zealous and very loud SJW campaigns.

Speaking of screaming in people's faces.
 
A large cohort of the men who aspire to be soldiers and sailors, and who come from generations of soldiers and sailors, have concluded that the new "woke" military disdains them and abhors the culture that formed their character and aspirations. Rather than put up with the attempts at brainwashing that await them, they're looking elsewhere in search of a career and a life. The Navy will no more increase recruitment by engaging a drag queen sailor in this effort than Budweiser has been able to increase its sales by "partnering" with a transsexual would-be Valley girl, and--in a statement from their now-departed marketing executive--insulting their core customers. There's woke. And then there's clueless woke.

nypost.com

US Navy hires active-duty drag queen to be face of recruitment drive

The US Navy invited an active-duty drag queen to be a “Digital Ambassador” – as part of a recent drive “to attract the most talented and diverse workforce” amid sinking recruitment.
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:rotflmao:

Oh the reputable Post.

Real men wouldn't be sissies about this. But the ones who are shooting cans of Blue Light off their fence posts might be just too pansy to deal with it. Just like how no one ever signed up for the military again after homos were allowed to openly serve.

Men weren't such hyper macho lalas in past wars. Much ado about nothing.

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I also forgot about when those SJW's and 'Woke' leftists integrated the American armed forces and no white men ever signed up for the military again.
 
The problem with resorting to epithets in place of addressing points is that it is self-defeating.

Showcasing reactionary behavior on the right doesn't change the reality that extreme behavior on the left created a series of valid fears in the main.

Deploring American conservative or centrist postures about child involvement in the culture wars implies that it isn't similar elsewhere. Do the same PR stunts in Western Europe, Southern Europe, Eastern Europe, South America, Central America, the Levant, North Africa, Sub-Saharan Africa, the Indian Sub-Continent, Japan, China, and the reactions are very similar.

Heterosexual parents of all sorts of cultures aver from explicitly sexual topics being introduced to young children. Many will not even accept it for teens.

LGBTQ progress has been remarkable since the middle of the 20th century, in some countries. But trying to push it over the top with the most extreme behaviors is obviously working against the trend. The truth is, a certain subpopulation of the coalition has gleefully relished poking the bear, and then howling at the entirely predictable pushback.

Give populations time to evolve. Stop pretending America is somehow an island of throwbacks. The fears triggered in the American mainstream are the same as found across the planet. Transexuals do not need to be feared, but the way to show that is to not place them intentionally in threatening positions as icons. And drag queens are not a sexual orientation of any kind, so the promotion of them as some kind of virtue bearer is profoundly misguided. Night club acts have NEVER been appropriate fodder for children.

I've always disdained the too-quick cries from reactionaries about protecting the children, but the last several years have played right into those fears. There is a huge difference between a gay or lesbian couple being able to raise their own children, or adopted, and in making forays into other families who may not view drag or transexualism as acceptable.

There was a radio segment on today discussing the Montana and Tennessee laws about sex identity and gender. The reporter made a statement that trans individuals would like to keep their private lives private. Indeed. That is the opposite of showcasing anyone playing a sport in a public competition or leading children's activities.

Should trasns people hide away in a corner? No. But there's a reasonable level of profile that is needed. The world will never be South Beach or WeHo or SoHo. For those that are drawn to those cultures, great, but the vast majority of the world and the U.S. is not that hard left.
 
As I mentioned earlier, I resent the amplification of children as being a central component of LGBTQ empowerment. It is folly, throwing gasoline on the dumpster fire of homophobia. The nation never could even agree on what would constitute sex education for adolescents in public schools when the topic was strictly heterosexual norms. How much more obvious could it be that fringe populations and orientations would become a flash point if pushed?

Gay men already constitute as small minority, with every indication that we are less than five percent of the male population. Playing make-believe with that number to try to either magnify our power or to ameliorate the despair doesn't change the number. Living in a gayborhood or an urban Mecca can create a better illusion, but it doesn't change the demographics of the total.

Transexualism is a tiny fraction of LGBTQ coalition. That doesn't mean their rights become expendable, but when looking at demographics, their cause will certainly find even fewer champions not only because of the perceived extreme, but because if its obvious rarity. We are right to include them in a caucus, but wrong to imply it is somehow unnoticeable or no more detectable than whether someone prefers anal sex over vaginal in the privacy of a bedroom.

Men with long bones and big frames simply cannot pass for women in the larger society unnoticed. That's not saying there are not undetectabel trans individuals among us, but it is a silent problem that is avoided when the SJW take up the cause. The culture is being bombarded with conflicting messages when celebrity figures like Bruce Jenner reidentify publicly as Caitlyn and ask for no one to have opinions about publicity, athletic competition fairness, or politics. As I've attended LGBTQ Meetups, I've met several trans individuals. None of them behaved in any of the ways that we see promoted from the right or the left. They were just people who seemed to want to be allowed to BE themselves, not standard bearers for a cause.

I'm not suggesting that trans people should have to be closeted, but it seems more than incongruous that someone wanting to be accepted as a reidentified gender would want the change to be the focus instead of simply being allowed to be the "new" gender.

We live in a uniquely pivotal time in the Sexual Revolution. Men and women who were repressed, abused, oppressed, marginalized, ostracized, demonized, and shunned have come into an era of increasing empowerment. But, the individuals who have come through that change sometimes erupt with a fierce rebel persona that strikes back at society for its otherness and intolerance, and we have often used those warriors as heroes. But, in the case of trans members, that very posture may be inherently self-defeating.

At some point, we must deal with whether assimilation and acceptance in the larger society IS the goal or not, and we used to hear some of that debated in Hot Topics as same-sex marriage was tossed about as desirable or just being co-opted by heteronomative standards. Now, as assimilation has become possible in more cultures and nations, we see a division occurring in the LGBTQ caucus, and there are identifiable factions. One population just wants to live the life of an average society member, not primarily identified by orientation. Another faction needs to be out and proud in a prominent way, and maybe even anti-majority in that identity.
 
NotHardUp1 said:
The problem with resorting to epithets in place of addressing points is that it is self-defeating.

Showcasing reactionary behavior on the right doesn't change the reality that extreme behavior on the left created a series of valid fears in the main.

Deploring American conservative or centrist postures about child involvement in the culture wars implies that it isn't similar elsewhere. Do the same PR stunts in Western Europe, Southern Europe, Eastern Europe, South America, Central America, the Levant, North Africa, Sub-Saharan Africa, the Indian Sub-Continent, Japan, China, and the reactions are very similar.

Heterosexual parents of all sorts of cultures aver from explicitly sexual topics being introduced to young children. Many will not even accept it for teens.

LGBTQ progress has been remarkable since the middle of the 20th century, in some countries. But trying to push it over the top with the most extreme behaviors is obviously working against the trend. The truth is, a certain subpopulation of the coalition has gleefully relished poking the bear, and then howling at the entirely predictable pushback.

Give populations time to evolve. Stop pretending America is somehow an island of throwbacks. The fears triggered in the American mainstream are the same as found across the planet. Transexuals do not need to be feared, but the way to show that is to not place them intentionally in threatening positions as icons. And drag queens are not a sexual orientation of any kind, so the promotion of them as some kind of virtue bearer is profoundly misguided. Night club acts have NEVER been appropriate fodder for children.

I've always disdained the too-quick cries from reactionaries about protecting the children, but the last several years have played right into those fears. There is a huge difference between a gay or lesbian couple being able to raise their own children, or adopted, and in making forays into other families who may not view drag or transexualism as acceptable.

There was a radio segment on today discussing the Montana and Tennessee laws about sex identity and gender. The reporter made a statement that trans individuals would like to keep their private lives private. Indeed. That is the opposite of showcasing anyone playing a sport in a public competition or leading children's activities.

Should trasns people hide away in a corner? No. But there's a reasonable level of profile that is needed. The world will never be South Beach or WeHo or SoHo. For those that are drawn to those cultures, great, but the vast majority of the world and the U.S. is not that hard left.
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yeah. sure. because that is what homos were told to do. do nothing. hide. don't rock the boat. it's okay to suck cock in private but don't ask to get married.

The problem with not seeing so called 'social justice' movements in the context of all social justice movements in history is that it makes the ones that make you squirm seem like they are unique.
 
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