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Are you fucking serious?

When are people going to start worrying about what actually matters, and not what happens in a fake movie. Seriously, we have a lot more pressing issues going on in the world than to worry about if Avatar is racist or not.

Here's an idea: Grow a set and get a life and quit trying to be the moral majority.

I've said my peace :)
 
When are people going to start worrying about what actually matters, and not what happens in a fake movie. Seriously, we have a lot more pressing issues going on in the world than to worry about if Avatar is racist or not.

Here's an idea: Grow a set and get a life and quit trying to be the moral majority.

I've said my peace :)

Respectfully, SB, your point really doesn't address anything at all, because it assumes that the people having the discussion don't worry about anything else. Sure, we can all walk around and tell everyone "STFU, you're wasting time over shit that doesn't matter," but who are you to say what matters to one person over another? And who are you to assume that they don't care about other more pressing matters?

It's an internet conversation about something people are interested in talking about--that's not a crime. If you find it so pointless, then even posting on here to say it's pointless is just as pointless.
 
As I was bit taken off by the "Avatar Craze" and now this?

I seriously don't want to do anything with this movie lol
 
Stop this fucking anal-yzing and dredging for motivation.

The fucking flick was a couple of hours of entertainment for some of us...the DUMB

masses I guess.....Sorry, but some days I don't want to be an educated bigot/ film

critic or social anal-yst. I just wanna be a kid chomping down the popcorn, sucking

down the Nehi and watching the fucking movie I paid to be ENTERTAINED by.

Hey Lucky, after the flick lets me and you race to the bar for a different kind of

SPIRITual LIBerATiON ??....:##::grrr::##:
 
Lucky, my buddy...

First I assume we are still buddies.

Second, where in my post


did I imply anything racist? If it read that way, I really mangled my Spanglish.

I can't do racist even if I wanted to...there isn't an inbred

bone in my body. My family tree is full of Men and Women...all

sluts...that crossed the planet since the dawn of time with two

goals. If it looked valuable ...then you plunder it. If it looked

human...try to impregnate it. And my ancestors up to this

present generation were and are very goal like and oriented..!oops!.
 
Sure, the movie is worthy of such discussions. It's one of the most expensive films ever made, it's made more money than any film ever made, it's heralded as being a revotionary new way of telling a cinematic story, and it's winning major acclaim and awards. It's worthy to discuss how something so visually new is still quite antiquated in its depictions of certain stereotypes and themes.

And honestly, the more Caucasians who ridicule others for seeing such stereotypes and taking offense, the more I'm inclined to believe there's really something there.
 
Hmmm...I haven't seen the film, but I didn't know the principal cast of humans was all-white, while the many of the aliens were voiced by minority actors . I'm wondering if the casting decisions represent a Feudian slip? But still, I suppose if the producers had gone out of their way to cast a few blacks among the humans they might have looked like tokens.
 
Are the na'vi prejudiced against avatars?

on a side note:

Can we get an NC-17 rated Hi Def RealD 3D film?
 
It is so ridiculous to call the movie "racist". Look at the bigger picture and the bigger message of the movie. I don't see how a plot that preaches about everything being one and connect can be racist. A character, sure, but he was the bad guy and his point of view is purposely opposite the main theme of the movie. People just need crap to complain about. It's so ridiculous that I find it comical. If I don't laugh, I think I'll go nuts lol honestly geez
 
Ok so the point of this thread wasn't "is this a racist movie?", it was more about how ridiculously anal retentive people have become about movies and the media in general. If people are going to comb through every movie's plot with the fine toothed pc comb, how enjoyable are movies going to be? Not every movie has to be a an hour and a half psa. People need to calm down or bitch about something worth while. Hati, Darfur.....nah the the symbolism in this sci-fi movie is the real problem. It's entertainment, chill the fuck out.
 
Yes, of course.

Haiti bad.

Darfur bad.

Movie pretty.

Rainbows good.

Me love chocolate.

*Grunt grunt*
 
I find that response racist. As many people know "chocolate" is commonly know to describe african americans and I just think it's wrong. African american's come in many shades and are not "chocolate colored. When are we as a people going to stop the lables. From now on can we all please call it "Sweetend desert made from coco beans" That way were all safe from ever seeing or saying anything that could ever be possibly misconstrued. K THX
 
I find that response racist. As many people know "chocolate" is commonly know to describe african americans and I just think it's wrong. African american's come in many shades and are not "chocolate colored. When are we as a people going to stop the lables. From now on can we all please call it "Sweetend desert made from coco beans" That way were all safe from ever seeing or saying anything that could ever be possibly misconstrued. K THX

Really, don't you have more important things to talk about, like global warming? Chocolate is just chocolate. Damn!

:kiss:
 
Tadpoles have tails. The Na'vi have tails. It's all a big connected conspiracy.
 
If are allowed to do some enlightened theorizing, then may we consider that the main character Jake Sulley was born a caucasian human male but self-identifies as a Na'Vi. One might say that while he was made into a Na'Vi male, he wasn't originally a Na'Vi. If a caucasian human male was to self-identify as a caucasian human female and was made into a female, would we also say that this individual wasn't originally a woman?

I have not in any of my previous posts, nor in my current post, said that any person of a race other than caucasian's feelings are invalid because they feel offended by the stereotypes that may exist in the movie Avatar.

I have said that those who are saying that humans are a race are misinformed as human is not a race. Google it. It is, in fact, a species. Not a single character in the movie stated at any point that human is a race. Na'Vi may be a species or a race, I don't honestly know and rather than start a crusade based on facts that I am unaware of, I will say that I don't know.

Now as far as others crying out against comments made by caucasians, you only address half of my heritage. I say that because I am also half native american. My mother's family is from the Fort Berthold indian reservation in New Town, North Dakota. Yes, I'm actually Arikara and my family is of the waterbuster clan. There are many parallels between the culture of the Na'Vi and the Arikara. My mother saw the movie and she loved the fact that the Na'Vi won their land back. She says that there is a ceremony that adopts outsiders into the clan and that they are Arikara after that, no longer considered as an outsider. My uncle Nathan was the whistle holder for the Dead Grass Society until his passing. My great-grandmother was one of our tribe's medicine women.

I don't see that my race(s) should matter in relation to what I post about a movie, but since race is being called into a question by some, I felt that I should clear things up and state that I am multi-racial.

I don't mind the fact that some people are reading way too much into this, however I do mind the fact that other people comment about things that they know nothing about. It's like a straight person lamenting the shit that we gays have to go through. It's very thoughtful, but you will never understand what a gay man goes through on a daily basis. I face it all the time and excuse me for not wanting to hear you talk about it in an effort to enlighten me. I'm sorry, I truly am.

I'm not upset at anybody. Seriously, I'm not mad. I just want you to think for a moment before you start talking. That really isn't a lot to ask for, at least not in my humble opinion.

As for my thoughts about this movie? Honestly, the plot was shit. I will admit that it had it's moments, but not many of them. The visuals were fucking AWESOME.


Respectfully, BG, you're still not paying attention. You never once ridiculed anyone for being offended--and my main point was simply to ask people to take into consideration how people might be offended by it. SO, I was never addressing you at all. None of my comments about such attitudes was addressed to you, because as you just pointed out, you never said anything to warrant it. As far as putting thought into what is said, I put a great deal of thought into what I say, and I try to pay attention also to what others say. I wish others in this thread were as open.

And again, you aren't paying attention to anything I said about the "human race." I wasn't calling it the human race--I was pointing out that the character said "race" and so HE was obviously thinking of it that way. The character was considering humans a race when HE made the statement. You're the only person in here who keeps belaboring this point--everyone else seems to have understood that I was talking about what the character was thinking.

Your heritage is a wonderful and proud part of who you are. I applaud you for knowing more about it. Unfortunately, though there is a great deal of Native American blood in my family, we have very little by way of details or connections to it. We have simply photos of my full-blooded ancestors about four generations back. I wish I could know more about them. I identify as caucasian, and I am not taking people to task for anything that I'm not willing to point out about myself. Hence my apology to Stacy when I realized how I had used the word "lame" to mean "dorkish."

The film is beautiful. It has some beautiful themes and ideas. It also has many flaws. It doesn't diminish the film to discuss those flaws, just as it doesn't diminish any of us to explore them intelligently.
 
Okay, some of mine came from Cherokee and Apache liasons. I am of many races under the general Identity of species...just no blue that I know of....Personally this tempest in a tea pot with catbox breaks is all but making me piss my breeechclout/loincloth and all over my leggings....I changed from my 3 pc suit for comfort and my track suits are in the wash so not available.

Hollywood made an entertainment to make some wampum (and holy cowflop...it has)
This thread has been almost as entertaining...plot sucks too but the visual and graphic...bellisimo mein herr.:rolleyes:
 
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