Are You Tired of Political Correctness?

[bobeeboi3767]

I think I am, I feel that pretty soon I will have to tape my mouth shut, and communicate with the blinking of my eyes to prevent from offending anyone. The only thing that keeps me from doing that is that people who are mute might find that offensive..

 

[SilverRRCloud]

Frankly, I do not give a shit, if you'll pardon my French?

I use common sense and I never try to offend or insult.

If someone still feels, he has not been treated properly, gee, he can sue me...

SC

 

[SpankThePony]

I hate this whole obsession with labels....
I meen a label get's creates and people are happy with it untill it expands to a point where it includes things that not everyone cought under that label wants to be associated with so they begin trying to disassociate themselves from it and it becomes an insule
then it becomes politicly incorect!
there are all sorts of things going back years that were fine at the time but then started to become politicly incorect because not everyone that was stuck with the lebel agreed with them so they go and create a new label....
It's rediculous and counter productive.
It's also self perpetuating.

 

[SpankThePony]

Hah! Look at Christmas!
It's not Christmas any more! It’s non-denominational gift giving day!
Why did this happen? because people from religions other than Christian didn't want their kids feeling left out when other Christian kids were getting present so they had a little party on the day, but they didn't want there kids to get the idea that it was Christmas so every time a Christmas carrel was played on the radio or Christmas was mentioned in schools or in public places they complained that it was unfair discrimination.
Not everyone does it. Some people are perfectly content to celebrate a non Christian Christmas but some people just have a pole up their ass and everything has to change to suit them.
It doesnt even have to be that many people! it could be 1 put of hundrest to raise the issue and not let go.

 

[Oogleman]

very - at work i really have to hold my mouth sometimes.

for example - we have 1100 staff - 2 of them are muslim - they have a prayer room - we dont! i could go on all day but i wont lol

 

[runner]

I am sick and tired of political correctness and I am sick an tired of gay politics.

 

[SpankThePony]

I am sick and tired of political correctness and I am sick an tired of gay politics.

what, you mean you're still happy with the day to day politics?

 

[gaz1978]

Unfortunately, the concept of "political correctness" has been hijacked by reactionary bigots (and closet racists) and so it doesnt really mean what it did 10 years ago.

 

[SpankThePony]

Does anyone remember where the post about the cashear worker who refused to handel any meat produce? having the customer scan and bag them themselves?
I mean how can an employer tolerate that? how can they be expected to? Can he actualy fire them on the gounds that they refuses to do part of the job or does he have to tolerate this because of her religeous freedoms?
Even if he did have grounds to fire them does the involvment of religeon in the matter not mean that there would almost certainly be an investigation into the matter that would interfear with buisness even more?
What if this person was working in a butchers shop? Could they be fired then for refusal to handel the meet products?
Where does political corectness end and peoples own responsability to ensure something is suatable to them begin?

 

[TriBi]

Whatever happened to "common sense"....?

I think it ceased to exist in the climate of PC...*shakes head*...

 

[SpankThePony]

Whatever happened to "common sense"....?

I think it ceased to exist in the climate of PC...*shakes head*...

Common Sense is one of the rarest elements in the know universe!

If you are lucking enough to find some, grad it and hold on because it’s sure to sky rocket in value the moment people realise how useful it actually is.

 

[bimmrboy]

PC is bullshit.

 

[cellular]

Well political correctness is for those people without knowledge on issues being talked about, because then you would have to fall on politically correct issues when others ask for your opinion. For eg. What do you think on the war in iraq? If i knew nothing, i would say: War is bad. Its better than saying nothing, that would make you feel stupid.
Now doesnt it make you wonder with all the politically correct thought spew on by politicals, how many of them actually know what they are talking about? My guess is very little.

 

[SpankThePony]

being PC is all about doing and saying nothing that could in any way shape or form be seen to cause offence of any kind to any way.


In other words, plolitical corectness is about saying and doing nothing because there is nothing you could possably do that someone else can't potencialy find flaw and reson to be offended in.

 

[sb]

Whatever happened to "common sense"....?

there is no such thing as common sense.

It's not Christmas any more! It’s non-denominational gift giving day!

I have never heard it called that and the only people I have ever gone on about not celebrating christmas and all that are christians.

very - at work i really have to hold my mouth sometimes.

for example - we have 1100 staff - 2 of them are muslim - they have a prayer room - we dont! i could go on all day but i wont lol

do you even want a prayer room? But I understand... where I work they put sanitary bins in the bathrooms for women but we didn't get any!



I'm not tired of political correctness.

Political correctness is getting taken to the stupid extreme by some but it is a good thing. If it werent for political correctness it would still be considered acceptable to label people in totally offensive ways.

 

[quasar]

...Why did this happen? because people from religions other than Christian didn't want their kids feeling left out when other Christian kids were getting present...

I beg to differ on this. I think you'll find that other religions don't have a problem with us celebrating Christmas - it was the PC brigade that made that decision for them - certainly in the UK.

 

[SpankThePony]

I beg to differ on this. I think you'll find that other religions don't have a problem with us celebrating Christmas - it was the PC brigade that made that decision for them - certainly in the UK.

as I did point out, many non christians are happy to celabrate a non christian chstitmass or did you not read the part of that same post where I said this?

Not everyone does it. Some people are perfectly content to celebrate a non Christian Christmas but some people just have a pole up their ass and everything has to change to suit them.

Taking things in context is important.
The following is out of context

Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer: Oh, how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?

strange the way I can see it fitting in here somehow.

 

[Swellegant]

Nope, I love it! In fact, I'm one of those bastards who actively agitates for it. It bugs the hell out of me that people get so complacent about words and actions that they were taught that they can't see how it affects other people.

Take, for example, symbols of Christianity on public property. You're a Christian, or at least accustomed to Judeo-Christian cultural symbols, so you get complacent about it. But what if you're not a Christian, what if Judeo-Christian cultural symbols are deeply offensive to you? You see this Christian symbology all around you, even in the government, and you start feeling excluded from your own country. Sure, it's a reasonable expectation that you have to coexist peacefully with Christians, but does that mean that Christians have the right to force their religion down your throat?

So you have to ask yourself: is my need for a Nativity scene on the front steps of City Hall more important than someone else's need to feel included in the democratic principles on which our nation was founded? Or would it just be easier and kinder to keep my Nativity scene in my living-room where I can enjoy it without offending anyone else? Is my need to say "Merry Christmas" to everyone indiscriminately more important than someone else's discomfort at having his or her own religious beliefs (or non-beliefs) challenged at every turn? Or would it just be easier to say "Happy Holidays"... or just say nothing at all beyond "have a nice day"?

I will grant you that a lot of assholes have taken political correctness and used it as a tool to further their own assholery, but the spirit behind political correctness remains good and worthwhile. But for it to do any good, it has to be internalized rather than enforced, and it has to be applied across the board, not just to minorities.

For example, I'm sick and tired of being referred to as "white." I'm pretty damned pale, but I am not quite white. And what has the color of my skin got to do with anything, anyway? I know we need to track the proportion of minorities who are being hired or served in various places, but if we're going to be fair, we have to pony up with the non-racist expressions all the way around. If I'm going to go around saying "African-American" or "Asian-American," I would sincerely appreciate being called "European-American." That's only fair.

 

[quasar]

as I did point out, many non christians are happy to celabrate a non christian chstitmass or did you not read the part of that same post where I said this?

No, I read that, but didn't disagree with it. I simply disagreed with the way you intimated that it was other religions that were to blame for it.

 

[MrJason]

Like most things, PC'ness can be taken to extremes. It seems to me, however, that racists and homophobes love to cry about how PC they have to be, when ya know, we should care about people's feelings, and Coulter drag lady shouldn't call John Edwards a faggot, and Imus shouldn't call African American women "nappy headed ho's." We have freedom of speech in this country, yes, but that also means we have the freedom to criticize idiots who think they can spew their nonsense unchallenged. The prayer room seems a bit much for me though!
On a related note, I'm not tired of gay politics. I don't care so much about what people think of me, but I do care about the rights my government denies me and my partner, so I'm kind of an activist about it. We can't get tired of this, we need to fight the good fight! =)