Are younger students even being taught English grammar in school?

[gsdx]

Disregarding text speak entirely and concentrating more on actual grammar and spelling, there are so many younger people who don't seem to have a grasp of even the most basic rules of grammar. Either they're not learning, or it's not being taught.

English may be an evolving language, but it seems to be evolving differently for each individual.

 

[darden]

contemporary teaching seems to involve teaching students how to fill in multiple choice tests than actually learning stuff.

 

[MoufOfKhaos]

contemporary teaching seems to involve teaching students how to fill in multiple choice tests than actually learning stuff.

This. Schools these days in the US (and hell, when I was in school) seem to be focused on teaching people the test, rather than teaching them to learn. There is a huge difference, and it shows.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

lot lingo world ova but allls a tulips

nice wen eva worlld smart nogs dildo heads figa out any century

_ classfied _

ooh

dat bugga ma post
& anytime &
arrrh so sweet
" here go "

thankyou

 

[palbert]

Correct English is effectively a geriatric hobby.

Cursive writing is a geriatric art.

 

[mbamike]

May be ronboy will give us some insight.

 

[GamerBear]

They didn't teach us when I was in school.

 

[JayHawk]

we dint get 2 props eng w/i was n skool

 

[johaninsc]

lot lingo world ova but allls a tulips

nice wen eva worlld smart nogs dildo heads figa out any century

_ classfied _

ooh

dat bugga ma post
& anytime &
arrrh so sweet
" here go "

thankyou

" Your Honor...Exhibit A "

 

[HunterM]

^ Noted.

 

[pat grimshaw]

... there are so many younger people who don't seem to have a grasp of even the most basic rules of grammar. Either they're not learning, or it's not being taught....

Some of us may have been distracted by other things when we went to school. You could give us some gentle reminders here in these thread when you come across jarring examples of illegal grammar.

 

[m1thousand]

'Either they're not . . . "

How are we suppose to know which version of 'they're' is suppose to use?

- what is the right version to use? How do you know?

Gsdx,
this isn't a criticism of your post, it's a question about that word.


For example, when are you suppose to use 'it's' versus 'it is' ? or 'isn't' versus 'is not'

The only thing Ive made sure to know is about 'you're', versus 'your'

 

[rareboy]

Some of us may have been distracted by other things when we went to school. You could give us some gentle reminders here in these thread (sic) when you come across jarring examples of illegal grammar.

Noto bene.

 

[skinIsIn]

Correct English is effectively a geriatric hobby.

Cursive writing is a geriatric art.

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/threads/402407-Cursive-Script

The passionate fervor for and against the merits of penmanship on this board (as evidenced by clicking the above link), rival topics on whether "Bisexuality truly exists" or a classic JUB "debate" on "Cut vs. Uncut!!"

As for "palbert's" blatant ageism...I don't know what to say, other than: "those who don't know (and appreciate) history, are doomed to repeat it!"

 

[AstareGod]

One thing that really annoys me is the use of a comma to join two complete sentences, it amazes me the number of times I see people do that.

;-)

Seriously though, as much as I love technology and how accessible it is now to so many people, it allows people who may not be as skilled at writing to publish themselves. It's not just universities that have access to the Internet anymore. Plus, social media has made it very easy to post things quickly; therefore, people may not take much care in writing well-thought-out sentences.

I'm all for helping people to learn and communicate, but it seems people have no interest at all in bettering themselves. I seemed to grasp the rules of English very easily, so I don't know how hard it is for others.

 

[rareboy]

'Either they're not . . . "

How are we suppose to know which version of 'they're' is suppose to use?

- what is the right version to use? How do you know?

Gsdx,
this isn't a criticism of your post, it's a question about that word.


For example, when are you suppose to use 'it's' versus 'it is' ? or 'isn't' versus 'is not'

The only thing Ive (sic) made sure to know [STRIKE]is[/STRIKE] about is 'you're', versus 'your'

Good lord people. There are contractions and there are possessives. Grade 4-6 level stuff. C'mon.

And if you don't know, then for heaven's sakes...look it up on line.

 

[AstareGod]

'Either they're not . . . "

How are we suppose to know which version of 'they're' is suppose to use?

- what is the right version to use? How do you know?

Gsdx,
this isn't a criticism of your post, it's a question about that word.


For example, when are you suppose to use 'it's' versus 'it is' ? or 'isn't' versus 'is not'

The only thing Ive made sure to know is about 'you're', versus 'your'

They're = Contracted form of "they are". They're bringing the chips to the party.

Their = Plural possessive, along the lines of singular possessive "his" or "her". Their chips were delicious!

There = Denoting a location. We are now heading there with the chips.

It's is a bit funky. Usually the time you see 's is when you're marking a possessive, as in Harry's chips are the best. However, it's the opposite case with it's. It's only means "it is", and the possessive is its. It's a beautiful day, and the sun shines its rays down on us.

 

[cityboy-stl]

How are we suppose to know which version of 'they're' is suppose to use?

This is my pet peeve. It's supposed to, not "suppose to". Secondly, it's used to, not "use to".

 

[oakpope]

I was only teached English at 12 yo
But nowadays more and more French elementary schools are teaching basic English to children.

 

[LilBit]

In my French classes, I find myself explaining basic English grammar concepts that I had learned by the time I was in first grade. I seriously have college students who don't know what pronouns and adverbs are. They don't understand the fundamentals of their own language, and I have to teach them how to speak a second one. It's beyond frustrating.