Barack Obama High School?

[jktoooo]

It's what we've been doing since day 1 my friend. Difference is, this time it's an unknown, half-black person. These standards and qualifications and requisites didn't exist for the most part until now.



Find me a politician that doesn't and I'll paint your whole house for free, and pay for the supplies myself, you just pick out the color(s).



Once again, that's what we've been doing all along. People voted for Bush cuz he seemed like a good drinking buddy. The very reason we've had 43 white presidents is because people vote for what's familiar to them. If you think people have been voting for the right reasons all this time, you've got another thing comin'.

what is this moral equivalency thing that liberals love?

just because all this has happened in the past does it make it right?

btw --- as far as this:

Difference is, this time it's an unknown, half-black person. These standards and qualifications and requisites didn't exist for the most part until now.

you couldn't be more wrong.

Many of the past presidents had Excellent resumes which often included Executive experience.

I just don't understand the mindset such as yours.

For some reason it doesn't matter that Obama lacks executive experience to be president, but Sarah Palin is unqualified as a VP even though she HAS executive experience.

Now, you're saying that Bush's Executive Experience didn't matter, instead, people wanted to vote in a drunk president because it made them feel better about themselves?

This a very twisted way of thinking, scewed logic.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

just because all this has happened in the past does it make it right?

No, that doesn't make it right, it DOES make it reality. How about Reagan? Carter? Franklin? What did these men do before the presidency? A title is NOT an accomplishment, if they were governor, what did they DO as governor?

you couldn't be more wrong.

The idea that people have been voting on credentials until now is extremely naive. White men have been getting white-pass votes for over a century. Now all of a sudden it's a problem?

I just don't understand the mindset such as yours.

If you looked at the FACTS objectively you would atleast understand if not agree. You're vehemently arguing talking points that were debunked ages ago, such as the myth of the experienced president who rides in on a white horse and saves us, and the inexperienced president who can't even operate a telephone.

How do you get exprience running a country until you actually do so?

Now, you're saying that Bush's Executive Experience didn't matter

I'm still waiting on you to list what EXACTLY he did. A title isn't an accomplishment.

instead, people wanted to vote in a drunk president because it made them feel better about themselves?

This a very twisted way of thinking, scewed logic.

Did you watch the campaign and elections? People EXPLICITLY STATED that Bush "seemed like a great guy to drink with." That angle was so popular that other politicians did sound bytes at local bars and were seen on camera taking shots and sipping brews. *cough* Hillary *cough*

 

[HenryReardon]

Naming schools after elected officials still in office is immature and premature. Wait til they've finished their service, and name schools after those who achieved great things.

And, frankly, Boulder High School is a good name. There's going to be lots of new construction because of the stimulus bill, name some new buildings after Obama if that's so important to you. I think it's premature, but at least those new buildings would make sense.

We have a long tradition in this country of not memorializing people until they're dead.

What we're seeing with this latest stupidity is the result of having a celebrity culture - the young, especially, idolize celebutwits and celebutwats. I'm surprised someone hasn't wanted to name a school after Britney Spears - it makes about as much sense as naming one after BO.

 

[jktoooo]

I'm still waiting on you to list what EXACTLY he did. A title isn't an accomplishment.

I already told whiteeagle i'm not into defending bush.

but fyi --- having executive experience means having RUN an entire state which state government is a smaller model of how our national government runs.

To be a president, this type of experience is actually very valuable.

Where's obama's executive experience?

 

[HenryReardon]

I .

To be a president, this type of experience is actually very valuable.

Where's obama's executive experience?

Well he is a product of the Chicago political machine. To survive as a Chicago thug must count for something. LOL

 

[NickCole]

. You know we can't let the blacks get to feelin' too good about themselves.

Oh give that monumental chip on your shoulder a rest.

 

[NickCole]

We have a long tradition in this country of not memorializing people until they're dead.

What we're seeing with this latest stupidity is the result of having a celebrity culture - the young, especially, idolize celebutwits and celebutwats. I'm surprised someone hasn't wanted to name a school after Britney Spears - it makes about as much sense as naming one after BO.

This is absolutely positively spot-on.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Oh give that monumental chip on your shoulder a rest.

It was tongue-in-cheek. It's not my fault you failed to recognize obvious humor.

 

[Kigan2006]

Well, looks like this thread might get back on track after all.

I agree with the statement on the celebrity culture. It is now 'hip' to jump on bandwagons and idolize people. Just look at all the famous people. I'm surprised half of them haven't gotten things named after them already. And for what? For what are these people idolized?

Just a sign of the times I guess. Jump on a bandwagon, prematurely celebrate, and jump off saying "Wasn't my idea!" if things fall apart.

 

[jktoooo]

No, that doesn't make it right, it DOES make it reality. How about Reagan? Carter? Franklin? What did these men do before the presidency? A title is NOT an accomplishment, if they were governor, what did they DO as governor?

Reagon was Governor of california.
Carter was the 76th Governor of Georgia.
Franklin was President of Pennsylvania prior to becoming a US President (Pres. of Pennsylvania is similar to today's governor's positions).

Each of these counts as EXECUTIVE experience.
How come you don't understand this?
Obama has NOTHING of this sort, not on this scale, nowhere near this!
And you're arguing these men and their Government Executive experience means nothing?

The idea that people have been voting on credentials until now is extremely naive. White men have been getting white-pass votes for over a century. Now all of a sudden it's a problem?

um....uh.....that's by the simple fact this country was a majority white caucasian country. It still is white majority..... for now.

white men getting "passes" ----I don't buy this at all.

If you looked at the FACTS objectively you would atleast understand if not agree. You're vehemently arguing talking points that were debunked ages ago, such as the myth of the experienced president who rides in on a white horse and saves us, and the inexperienced president who can't even operate a telephone.

How is that a myth? Every election campaign showcases each candidates experience, and, like you're saying, their lack thereof also. Each presidential candidate obviously is going to tout their experience, especially if they have executive experience. Obama had nothing, at all.

How do you get exprience running a country until you actually do so?

Running a state is LIKE running a country, just on a smaller model. So complete can this experience be that states will even have their own foreign relations including importing and exporting.

It has been said often that states, such as California, could be it's own country.

Did you watch the campaign and elections? People EXPLICITLY STATED that Bush "seemed like a great guy to drink with."

I was not into voicing my political leftist opinions back then. But I highly doubt people voted for bush just because he seemed like a great guy to drink with. the truth of the matter is that Bush, like the other above mentioned presidents, had executive experience, and having executive experience is certainly excellent qualification for running this country, and certainly played a factor in millions of peoples decisions to vote for Bush.

It is conceivable (because it did happen) that Obama was voted in merely for his charisma and personality. He has a cult of personality following him. That was not the case at all with Bush.

That angle was so popular that other politicians did sound bytes at local bars and were seen on camera taking shots and sipping brews. *cough* Hillary *cough*

You're right, Hillary had no comparable experience either.

 

[jktoooo]

Well he is a product of the Chicago political machine. To survive as a Chicago thug must count for something. LOL

I hear dat! LOL!

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

We have a long tradition in this country of not memorializing people until they're dead.

What we're seeing with this latest stupidity is the result of having a celebrity culture - the young, especially, idolize celebutwits and celebutwats. I'm surprised someone hasn't wanted to name a school after Britney Spears - it makes about as much sense as naming one after BO.

Hmm, what to call this one. Apples and orange? Insincere? Disingenuous? Feigned ignorance? The man who represents a turning point in America is in no way, shape, or form comparable to Britney Spears. There is NOTHING similar between the two, unless of course you COMPLETELY ignore what he's been doing with his life for the past 20 years.

Barack Obama High sounds much better than After Two Long Centuries, Commander In Chief Is No Longer A 'Whites Only' Chair High. They're not just naming it after President Obama, the man, they're naming it after what he represents. He finally shattered the glass ceiling that whites built and successfully maintained for the better part of 200 years.

It's to be expected that some people are put into exaggerated states of fear at the sight of the falling shards.

 

[jktoooo]

We have a long tradition in this country of not memorializing people until they're dead.

What we're seeing with this latest stupidity is the result of having a celebrity culture - the young, especially, idolize celebutwits and celebutwats. I'm surprised someone hasn't wanted to name a school after Britney Spears - it makes about as much sense as naming one after BO.

Yes, this is a result of the "liberal" leftists socialist agenda pushed on americans.

 

[jktoooo]

He established the most murders by lethal injection in the country.

hmmm.....if this is true, you're solution would probably instead be to forgive the murdering thugs and let them go free?

 

[jktoooo]

Hmm, what to call this one. Apples and orange? Insincere? Disingenuous? Feigned ignorance? The man who represents a turning point in America is in no way, shape, or form comparable to Britney Spears. There is NOTHING similar between the two, unless of course you COMPLETELY ignore what he's been doing with his life for the past 20 years.

He's not saying they are "similar". What's he's saying is this country, because of our leftists libs, make decisions based on the celebrity of an individual.

Barack Obama High sounds much better than After Two Long Centuries, Commander In Chief Is No Longer A 'Whites Only' Chair High. They're not just naming it after President Obama, the man, they're naming it after what he represents. He finally shattered the glass ceiling that whites built and successfully maintained for the better part of 200 years.

It's still not completely shattered ---- using YOUR logic. why?

Because Obama still HALF WHITE. To completely shatter this white tainted glass ceiling, again, using your logic, one would have to be 100% black in order for this white tainted glass ceiling to be completely shattered. LOL!

It's to be expected that some people are put into exaggerated states of fear at the sight of the falling shards.

remember, it's not completely shattered because Obama is not 100% Black.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Each of these counts as EXECUTIVE experience. How come you don't understand this?

I understand the concept of executive experience. My problem here is that you're listing titles as experience. Where I come from, underneath the title we put a description of what we actually did.

My TITLE was Associate Food and Beverages Manager.

Underneath that I'd list my daily responsibilities like balancing the safe, inventory hard and soft counts, receiving and invoices, documenting daily sales individually and collectively, charting profits, etc... THAT is experience. F&B Manager is a title. Beyond that I'd list overall accomplishments like reducing damages and losses to a 5-year low, maintaining financial records, things of that sort.

Now, if you'd kindly stop listing titles and calling that experience and list the actual experience (which is an event), I'll understand what you mean.

And you're arguing these men and their Government Executive experience means nothing?

No, that's an exaggeration of the PROVEN fact that experience doesn't = a great president always. Have you caught on yet that life doesn't work in extremes and black/white scenarios? (not racial, rather right/wrong, left/right, simple answers)

that's by the simple fact this country was a majority white caucasian country.

That makes no sense. MILLIONS of blacks have lived in the US since they were brought here. Not one, not one of them became president in 200 years? Does that sound like a coincidence or a system that's set to keep white men in the CIC chair?

white men getting "passes" ----I don't buy this at all.

You don't think white people vote for white people just because they're white? They should add that to the Supremacist pamphlet: "Only blacks vote based on color."

had executive experience, and having executive experience

I'm going to break out in hives if I hear "Bush had executive experience" one more time. This is probably my fourth or fifth request, WHAT EXACTLY DID GEORGE BUSH DO? A TITLE IS NOT AN EVENT THEREFORE A TITLE IS NOT EXPERIENCE.

It is conceivable (because it did happen) that Obama was voted in merely for his charisma and personality.

That's how most politicians win. You don't start out with experience, it's not inbred, so something gets your foot in the door. Usually it's a rich father, an impressive academic record, communal reverence, white skin, things of that sort.

 

[TX-Beau]

This is absolutely positively spot-on.

There's George Bush crap all over Texas, Reagan got an Airport and was still kicking. I don't suppose libraries count though.

Frankly who the hell cares, if a community wants to name it's school Walleye Sue, what's that to any of us.

Does it hurt so very, very, very, terribly to just get over it and move on to something important?

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

He's not saying they are "similar". What's he's saying is this country, because of our leftists libs, make decisions based on the celebrity of an individual.

There's more to Obama than celebrity. Of course to recognize that you'd have to actually acknowledge institutional racism which many people are scared to do. So if you ignore the events of the past 200 years I can understand why naming a school after Obama woud rile people up.

it's not completely shattered because Obama is not 100% Black.

Guess we're back to the drawing board then.

 

[jackoroe]

It's a ridiculous thing to do. Naming a public edifice after anybody is supposed to be an honor. Honors are something you earn. Getting elected, is his only accomplishment, thus far.

It would be more prudent to wait until the end of his term and then evaluate his performance, to see if it warrants naming anything after him.

 

[TX-Beau]

I understand the concept of executive experience. My problem here is that you're listing titles as experience. Where I come from, underneath the title we put a description of what we actually did.

My TITLE was Associate Food and Beverages Manager.

Underneath that I'd list my daily responsibilities like balancing the safe, inventory hard and soft counts, receiving and invoices, documenting daily sales individually and collectively, charting profits, etc... THAT is experience. F&B Manager is a title. Beyond that I'd list overall accomplishments like reducing damages and losses to a 5-year low, maintaining financial records, things of that sort.

Now, if you'd kindly stop listing titles and calling that experience and list the actual experience (which is an event), I'll understand what you mean.



No, that's an exaggeration of the PROVEN fact that experience doesn't = a great president always. Have you caught on yet that life doesn't work in extremes and black/white scenarios? (not racial, rather right/wrong, left/right, simple answers)



That makes no sense. MILLIONS of blacks have lived in the US since they were brought here. Not one, not one of them became president in 200 years? Does that sound like a coincidence or a system that's set to keep white men in the CIC chair?



You don't think white people vote for white people just because they're white? They should add that to the Supremacist pamphlet: "Only blacks vote based on color."



I'm going to break out in hives if I hear "Bush had executive experience" one more time. This is probably my fourth or fifth request, WHAT EXACTLY DID GEORGE BUSH DO? A TITLE IS NOT AN EVENT THEREFORE A TITLE IS NOT EXPERIENCE.



That's how most politicians win. You don't start out with experience, it's not inbred, so something gets your foot in the door. Usually it's a rich father, an impressive academic record, communal reverence, white skin, things of that sort.

Marley is that You?