Barebacking advertisments - is this wise?

[teadrinker]

I just noticed, at the bottom of a forum page I was visiting, an advertisement for a barebacking site. Now, plenty of us here are old enough, wise enough and experienced enough to make up our own minds as to what we do or don't do. But there are also lots of young, naive and inexperienced people here too, who require guidance and support. I just wonder if including barebacking advertisements is sending the wrong sort of message?

-T.

 

[star-warrior]

Like anything JUB media does, it would be to attract the widest possible audience so it can maximise it's balance sheets.

The only thing people can do is to make aware of the risks and dangers of such things and let adults make the choices for themselves.

 

[crzyrazn]

Who is young and naive coming to a porn site? Who here is ignorant to the many dangers of STDs and AIDS/HIV that are rampant in our communities? While it may not be wise to engage in barebacking, I believe advertisement, to anyone who thinks sensibly - and let's face it, the information and education that is out there has all but eliminated ignorance of the dangers of sex - is just that, advertisement.

 

[MetaKnight]

Who is young and naive coming to a porn site? Who here is ignorant to the many dangers of STDs and AIDS/HIV that are rampant in our communities?

dude, seriously now.

 

[BabiGayPimp]

As far as I'm concerned, the message regarding how HIV is transmitted and how to avoid it has been delivered, and if people choose to drink the Kool Aid anyway, we can feel for them but we can't reach them.

 

[BenF]

If, after all the publicity and health warnings about bad-AIDS, people still go out and bareback with perfect strangers then perhaps we can apply some Darwinian theory to their demise.

 

[kallipolis]

I take a more measured approach.

Perhaps I am displaying my more vulnerable side, when saying that enough advertising on matters of life, and death are never ever sufficient for those persons who we might love, had we known them for more than another one night's stand.

Thus in my opinion we should keep all options open for those persons, whose irresponsible ways might well have been our own, when we were once that very young, cocky know all imbecile. Or were we all so wise, when we were attempting to fathom, our way through the sewers of promiscuous encounters? I was there, and I survived.

 

[BenF]

... not to be promiscuous (with or without protection) or chase straight men who will leave us emotionally broken time and time again.

Hmm...that's the Pope's excuse for not giving condoms to Africans.

"My, my - those blacks are so promiscuous - celibacy and chastity, not condoms and contraception, will save them."



Why do you need guidance not to be promiscuous? Just take some responsibility for your own actions for fucks sake.

Honestly, young people today.

 

[kallipolis]

If people are ignorant about sexually transmitted diseases, blame the Bush administration's "No Child Left Behind" and "Abstinence Only" programs. Not JUB. Not companies that produce porn that people want.

I refuse to pass judgement on anyone.

I do believe that visual images such as gay porn, impacts more profoundly on the actions of a promiscuous young, gay man than any attempts by the political administration, to enlighten the population on the dangers of unprotected sexual encounters.

I would offer the thought that gay porn can be utilised to influence the behaviour of those who view gay porn, for their benefit, or for their self destruction.

I offer the further thought that bare backing gay porn movies are a serious violation of the porn industry's responsibility to protect the young, naive viewer from being over sensitised, by such easy exposure to bare back porn movies.

 

[belamy]

Tea?......

 

[kallipolis]

And you can have that opinion. We link to that page from every bareback scene we post on our site. I think we're being pretty pro-active on barebacking.

We're certainly doing more than our national education system is doing and I hope you also think that not giving students any information about contraception or STDs is also a serious violation of the general public's responsibility to protect the young from STDs and unwanted pregnancies.

It's not really fair to expect the porn industry to to teach young gay men things if we don't even want our schools to do the same, is it?

The schools are not offering sexually arousing, visual imagery to jack off too.

The matter is not one of whether the schools teach safer sex practices, but of the porn industry's attempts to justify its profit making business, in making bare back movies by resorting to the no personal responsibility clause.

 

[belamy]

Senseless people, whether "young and inexperienced" or not, will do whatever stupid thing they feel to do, and it makes no difference your telling this or that or the contrary: if anything, they'd use, say, a barebacking advertise as an excuse to do what they will do anyway; if it were just as simple as saying or advertising to influence them...

It both amuses and irritates me when people would say that the young have all the information they need but don't know how to act accordingly: if they don't know the practical relevance of any bit of information they may receive they are not getting any information AT ALL.

 

[BenF]

We link to that page from every bareback scene we post on our site. I think we're being pretty pro-active on barebacking.

Brilliant!! Brilliant!! The porn industry caring about the audience and their "actors".


How refreshing. How uncynical. How altruistic.

How transparent.

You'll be telling us that Marlboro advocate the cancer warnings on fag packets, and really do care if people stop smoking next.

 

[kallipolis]

Brilliant!! Brilliant!! The porn industry caring about the audience and their "actors".


How refreshing. How uncynical. How altruistic.

How transparent.

You'll be telling us that Marlboro advocate the cancer warnings on fag packets, and really do care if people stop smoking next.

The famous Marlboro cowboy did eventually die from lung cancer.

 

[belamy]

The famous Marlboro cowboy did eventually die from lung cancer.

Did he live in Pittsburgh, or LA ..?

 

[kallipolis]

Did he live in Pittsburgh, or LA ..?

The ruggedly, handsome, bronzed cowboy strutted his advertising on a horse, over wide and beautiful ranges. I presume Death Valley, Arizona would have been an appropriate set piece back ground.:


http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2322167470093542537KlaTbd

 

[belamy]

Where did we do that?

I think we've taken a lot of personal responsibility.

I mean, just last week a young stunt man was paralyzed on the set of the new Harry Potter movie but I didn't see the movie industry vilified for putting him at risk along with all young Harry Potter fans watching the movie. And they don't have a "don't try this at home" page on their website.

I also find it kinda telling that I can post straight scenes with no condoms featuring Leo Giamani and David Taylor and nobody says anything but "hot!!" Then I post a scene with the two together and all hell breaks loose.

Anyway... I'm not going to get into a big argument about it. Everyone should have their own opinions and make their own choices. If you feel bareback porn existing promotes unsafe sex, it would make sense that you think that chastity pledges and purity balls promote abstinence among youth. And studies will show you that you're wrong. Teenagers have sex. Period. So do adults.

Whether we depict it in a movie or not.

But I have my opinions, you have yours and we'll just have to respect that the opinions we have aren't the same opinions.

The problem with the so-called adult industry is that there are far less adults than it is presumed.

 

[kallipolis]

Where did we do that?

I think we've taken a lot of personal responsibility.

I mean, just last week a young stunt man was paralyzed on the set of the new Harry Potter movie but I didn't see the movie industry vilified for putting him at risk along with all young Harry Potter fans watching the movie. And they don't have a "don't try this at home" page on their website.

I also find it kinda telling that I can post straight scenes with no condoms featuring Leo Giamani and David Taylor and nobody says anything but "hot!!" Then I post a scene with the two together and all hell breaks loose.

Anyway... I'm not going to get into a big argument about it. Everyone should have their own opinions and make their own choices. If you feel bareback porn existing promotes unsafe sex, it would make sense that you think that chastity pledges and purity balls promote abstinence among youth. And studies will show you that you're wrong. Teenagers have sex. Period. So do adults.

Whether we depict it in a movie or not.

But I have my opinions, you have yours and we'll just have to respect that the opinions we have aren't the same opinions.

I am not attempting to create a hostile, environment.

You are well aware that I have the highest, respect for many of your social justice observations. Despite me preferring to utilise language that attempts to seek accommodation with the religious fanatics.

I am unable to accept your justification for you making gay bare back movies.

Otherwise, I am always happy to exchange with you, on any matter. Knowing that you are well able to defend your position with great alacrity. We should agree to differ on the matter of bare back movies.

 

[LiquidSky]

I just noticed, at the bottom of a forum page I was visiting, an advertisement for a barebacking site. Now, plenty of us here are old enough, wise enough and experienced enough to make up our own minds as to what we do or don't do. But there are also lots of young, naive and inexperienced people here too, who require guidance and support. I just wonder if including barebacking advertisements is sending the wrong sort of message?

-T.

I think they are bullshit! Us "older" dudes know the score that safe sex is very important....and I'm not sure about our younger brothers. Young dudes: ALWAYS play safe!!!!

 

[davy]

The ruggedly, handsome, bronzed cowboy strutted his advertising on a horse, over wide and beautiful ranges. I presume Death Valley, Arizona would have been an appropriate set piece back ground.:


http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2322167470093542537KlaTbd

I am not attempting to create a hostile, environment.

You are well aware that I have the highest, respect for many of your social justice observations. Despite me preferring to utilise language that attempts to seek accommodation with the religious fanatics.

I am unable to accept your justification for you making gay bare back movies.

Otherwise, I am always happy to exchange with you, on any matter. Knowing that you are well able to defend your position with great alacrity. We should agree to differ on the matter of bare back movies.

first: death valley is in california.

second: looking for justification on unethical professional behavior in the gay porn industry is pointless because you've already deemed it in-ethical.

the bareback gay porn industry is only, at the absolute most, partially responsible for unsafe sex practices. but it doesn't matter how much of the blame the bareback makers deserve; because the responsibility of educating the clueless in our community falls plainly on ourselves.

treat the problem, not the symptoms.