Big Brother 15

[keitherson]

I get what you're saying but with YouTube and all of Big Brother's audience having such easy access to it (and not to mention the endless talk in the mainstream media about the comments) there's no need to keep airing racist remarks.
They did the one episode about it and as a black man, I appreciate limiting that foolishness to just that one episode and of course the exit interviews of the bigots. If they kept showing racist and homophobic comments, I really wouldn't bother watching because I already watch the Bad Girls Club. At least they actually fist fight on that show, these BB contestants are too money hungry to throw a punch.

 

[soopadupa]

I don't understand the people who say Amanda gets a "good edit." She's complete trash and a terrible person. She tries so hard in the Diary Room to come off like some kind of expert at manipulating people but couldn't see how obvious it was that she and McRae were going up.

On a side note, I had a great laugh at McRanda's reactions to their nominations and the Diary Room tears afterward.

I think people were mad that Amanda's insensitive comments weren't aired and essentially Aaryn was scapegoated as the only reason there was tension in the house. It looks like they couldn't hide anything after the Candace POV fight.

 

[slipintothefog]

GM: "I may be blond and I may be cute, but my name isn't Aaryn, it's Gina Marie."

Elissa: "This is better than Christmas. Amanda and McCrae getting a taste of their own medicine? Mmm...bitter."

GOD WHY CAN'T THESE TWO AWESOME BROADS MAKE A FINAL 2 PACT??

LOL, wasn't GM and Elissa buddying up during the HOH room reveal while Amanda chokes on her own poison the BEST?

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Of course! And for second place we had GM's inability to pronounce "dynamic" during her nomination speech.

 

[slipintothefog]

Dymanic! Dyman-- Dym-- UGH! POWER COUPLE!

I wish GM would spontaneously realize that her racist comments are wrong and renounce them. Because otherwise she'd be fucking PERFECT. As a TV character she's fantastic but she can't be my favorite because of the things she said about/to Candice. I want Julie to grill her at the finale because she deserves it, but at the same time I also kind of hope she'd be genuinely remorseful like Alicia was at the One World finale. So many mixed feelings.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Yeah I feel exactly the same way. Maybe it's because she is entertaining and seems naturally less Mean Girly than Aaryn, I keep hoping she'll turn out better.

And OK she's gone this week for sure now that McCrae has the veto, but slip OMG can you imagine how fucking awesome a F3 with Elissa, GM and Amanda would've been? One bitch, one trashbag and one space cadet going at it like cats? I'm swooning just thinking about it. (Now watch us get Andy/Spencer/Judd or some bullshit)

 

[slipintothefog]

That'd be an even better F3 than the one that had Jun and Alison because the third wheel wouldn't be a creepy guy who fucked Erika. I'm going to be devastated when a man wins this season that had so many epic females. Since I don't really take the Grodner era of BB seriously in terms of strategy or fairness anyway, there needs to be a Pandora's Box to save Amanda's ass, stat.

LOL I totally just wrote Elissa's name there instead of Amanda's. Clearly emulating Elissa by being a space cadet. And maybe GM for having pronunciation problems.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

It's just so depressing because Amanda, Elissa and GM COULD work together to take out the guys and Amanda/Elissa especially early in the season were intent on forming girl alliances and doing just that, but now there's so much bad blood between them (Amanda's fault entirely) that that won't happen so we'll probably end up with a Judd/Spencer finale and Judd getting every vote. Ugh.

He's a cool enough guy but Judd brings no drama for me and I really resent the idea of a returning player winning. Also (slip as further support for my argument that America wouldn't evict the boring people nowadays and keep the ones who bring the excitement) notice how Candice brought all that drama, took on multiple hobags week after week (Aaryn, GM, Amanda, then GM again) GAVE THE BEST EVICTION SPEECH OF ALL TIME, was an underdog besieged by three bitches (which normally seals America's undying love for you, see: Janelle) who even used RACISM to beat her down, and yet when it came to wanting someone back in the house, most fans (the crazy cat ladies especially) were like, "Nah...I still don't like her and I'd rather have boring Judd in there."

 

[Adrock-JD]

Just imagine if we were watching David, Nick, Jeremy and Howard

Instead of Judd, Spencer, McCrae and Andy. The paint drying brigade.

 

[keitherson]

He's a cool enough guy but Judd brings no drama for me and I really resent the idea of a returning player winning. Also (slip as further support for my argument that America wouldn't evict the boring people nowadays and keep the ones who bring the excitement) notice how Candice brought all that drama, took on multiple hobags week after week (Aaryn, GM, Amanda, then GM again) GAVE THE BEST EVICTION SPEECH OF ALL TIME, was an underdog besieged by three bitches (which normally seals America's undying love for you, see: Janelle) who even used RACISM to beat her down, and yet when it came to wanting someone back in the house, most fans (the crazy cat ladies especially) were like, "Nah...I still don't like her and I'd rather have boring Judd in there."

Did you not see Kayser get evicted, return, then get evicted again in BB All Stars? lol
I was glad Candice left and lost the competition to Judd on returning. The only thing we would have gotten out her return was another week of the same old mattress flipping tirades with racism and bullying before Amanda and/or Aaryn sent her out the door and right next to Julie for a second exit interview.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Yes and I would take that over Judd coming back, providing NO excitement and possibly winning the game. At least in your scenario, I'd have gotten one more week of awesomeness and the returning player wouldn't have won the season, which is exactly how it should be. Also, since ELISSA won that HOH, no Candice would not have been right out the door again.

Also also I was really just making a point (regarding an earlier exchange with slipintothefog) about the kinds of people America would evict if they could just control the show eachweek (which they think they want but they really don't, because the show would be full of Judd's and Spencer's and all kinds of boring people and everyone would stop watching just like Season One).

Just imagine if we were watching David, Nick, Jeremy and Howard

I'll take 50% of that lineup: the guy with the massive dong, and the guy who seems like he might enjoy a guy with a massive dong.

 

[Aratron]

I want GM and Elissa in the F2 as well!

 

[joesman]

Amanda is the blindest fuck ever. She still can't see why she and McC were put on the block. She can't see it.

And sorry Sgt Pepper, I can't stand Am and i do not want her anywhere near the f3 or f4. I don't want Mcc there either because he has floated in his bed ever since his win as HoH. He is such a sloppy, unkempt person. I can believe that he is a pizza delivery guy who spends all his money on weed and spends all his spare time in the basement. He doesn't even come off as an intelligent guy. He couldn't pull away from Am even though he knew she was self destructing and taking him with her.

I would love to have seen Jessie or Candice back but I am a huge Judd fan and have been since mid season. I like that he yelled at Am after the argument with Gm saying, "I guess we should all just pack our bags now!" I don't think that drama all the time is comfortable to watch. I have enjoyed many a A D of BB when people just sit around and talk, discuss things. I am not a fan of bullies in any way. The biggest boring group was the backyard group of Jeff, Jordan and their cronies. They didn't play the game until they were forced to and then the coup gave them the win.

Now I get uncomfortable watching Am at all. I hate her voice, her demeanor, her attitude. I hate her showmance w MC. They make me nauseous laying all over each other. No matter how big his dick is or how much flab she shows walking around in her bloomers. They are a disgusting pair made more so by his not slapping the shit out of her for her racist and homophobic remarks. She even called the ginger weasel a nancy.

I am happy that there was one person, Elissa, in the house who found all the racism, homophobia disgusting.

 

[keitherson]

Yes and I would take that over Judd coming back, providing NO excitement and possibly winning the game. At least in your scenario, I'd have gotten one more week of awesomeness and the returning player wouldn't have won the season, which is exactly how it should be. Also, since ELISSA won that HOH, no Candice would not have been right out the door again.

Probably not. Elissa loyally followed McRanda during her MVP run despite the tension between her and Amanda back then. Also that was back during Amanda's reign of terror when McRanda controlled the entire house. They were too pussy to even not vote the way McCranda wanted with most people leaving evicted unanimously. It was apparent to me when Candice and Howard got the boot back to back that the last remaining minority cast member this season was not going to make the top 5 either, lol.
I liked Candice but I think she would have fared better on another season and maybe they'll ask her back for another down the line.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

What are you talking about? I'm not talking about Elissa as MVP, I'm talking about Elissa as HOH. You know, the week a player returned (this was just last week) Elissa won HOH and put up McCrae and Arryn and she even wanted Amanda gone. That was the week Andy defected from 3AM and everything essentially fell apart for McCranda. Amanda would've still won POV and Aaryn would've still gone home. Elissa definitely was never putting Candice up -- they were close, and Candice is the one she hugged when the jurors reentered the house saying, "I've missed you SO much."

Maybe GM would've targeted Candice this week but who knows? With everyone turning against McCranda, they may still have been the target this week. At the very least Candice would've gotten one week reprieve via Elissa and that's enough for me. Much better than be bored by Judd all the way to the finals.

I am happy that there was one person, Elissa, in the house who found all the racism, homophobia disgusting.

Yeah I have to say, to her continuing credit, this is by far Elissa's BEST quality.

 

[keitherson]

At the very least Candice would've gotten one week reprieve via Elissa and that's enough for me. Much better than be bored by Judd all the way to the finals.

I don't get why you think Judd is so boring. It's refreshing to have one cast member besides Elissa that sees just how truly wretched a majority of his houseguests are. If you want a reality show with a lot of redundant explosive petty drama, there are many alternatives to BB. Elissa and Judd are the only people I like that are still left.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Elissa manages to be likable and entertaining. Judd is likable and boring. That's just me.

Also...

McCrae Used the POV and GM Nominated Spencer

This was expected but I do find it interesting that GM would put up someone from the Exterminators as her pawn rather than Elissa. That coupled with her DR that doesn't totally trust her alliance gives me hope that she and Elissa can form some sort of pact (I'm grasping at straws here people). Because if she doesn't and she goes to F4 with the three guys, GM could easily end up like Britney.

Really the best way for an Elissa/GM F2 to happen though is for the Exterminators to win the next HOH and take out McCrae and then Elissa win the following HOH and take out someone like Andy, thereby allowing her to realign the house with Elissa/GM teaming up at F4 against Judd/Spencer (where one of the girls would only have to win the final POV and they have a better comp track record between them than the two guys). I suppose if McCrae won the next HOH and took out an Exterminator, it could amount to the same thing, but I'm not sure he wouldn't just go after Elissa to avenge Amanda since she seems to irrationally blame Elissa for her demise.

 

[keitherson]

Elissa manages to be likable and entertaining. Judd is likable and boring. That's just me.

Perhaps, lol. I wouldn't call myself a Judd fan, but I'd rather he and Elissa be the final two than any of the rest of the remaining lot.

Also, I'm hoping Amanda gets the boot and McRae wins HoH on Thursday just to see how quickly the "Exterminators" would all stab each other in the back. That would be entertaining. As hell.

 

[Lostlover]

Amanda is the blindest fuck ever. She still can't see why she and McC were put on the block. She can't see it.

And sorry Sgt Pepper, I can't stand Am and i do not want her anywhere near the f3 or f4. I don't want Mcc there either because he has floated in his bed ever since his win as HoH. He is such a sloppy, unkempt person. I can believe that he is a pizza delivery guy who spends all his money on weed and spends all his spare time in the basement. He doesn't even come off as an intelligent guy. He couldn't pull away from Am even though he knew she was self destructing and taking him with her.

I would love to have seen Jessie or Candice back but I am a huge Judd fan and have been since mid season. I like that he yelled at Am after the argument with Gm saying, "I guess we should all just pack our bags now!" I don't think that drama all the time is comfortable to watch. I have enjoyed many a A D of BB when people just sit around and talk, discuss things. I am not a fan of bullies in any way. The biggest boring group was the backyard group of Jeff, Jordan and their cronies. They didn't play the game until they were forced to and then the coup gave them the win.

Now I get uncomfortable watching Am at all. I hate her voice, her demeanor, her attitude. I hate her showmance w MC. They make me nauseous laying all over each other. No matter how big his dick is or how much flab she shows walking around in her bloomers. They are a disgusting pair made more so by his not slapping the shit out of her for her racist and homophobic remarks. She even called the ginger weasel a nancy.

I am happy that there was one person, Elissa, in the house who found all the racism, homophobia disgusting.

Agree 100%.

McCrae isn't offensive at all. It's his closeness to Amanda that makes me wonder what he's really like. He's shown his frustration with Amanda on several occasions but keeps letter her back in. Me thinks his protests are strategic.

McCrae has a big dick?

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Also, I'm hoping Amanda gets the boot and McRae wins HoH on Thursday just to see how quickly the "Exterminators" would all stab each other in the back. That would be entertaining. As hell.

I actually forgot about the double-eviction. In that case, a McCrae HOH would likely be the worst case scenario because he may not have time to think and after losing Amanda that night, he will likely target Elissa or GM to avenge her. And those are the two I DON'T want to lose on the double-eviction night. I realize you would prefer an Elissa/Judd finale but I really don't think that's what Judd wants (he could easily beat Spencer for jury votes and he knows that) and if GM went on Thursday, that could be bad for Elissa making it all the way.

Conversely, if the Exterminators win the double-eviction HOH, I expect them to just target McCrae and finish the McCranda job which puts Elissa in a decent position to win F5 HOH and realign the house for the endgame.

So I guess I'm rooting for Andy or Judd to win the double-eviction HOH and take out McCrae.