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Big Brother 16 (US Version)

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Caleb won HoH

Now THIS is interesting. Time to see whether Derrick can get Caleb to target Frankie or whether Caleb will make his own decision for himself and just target Victoria. God it would be SO sweet if Frankie got the boot at the hands of the guy he's been lusting after shamelessly (not to mention the guy he saved with a POV) and then the rest of them fought over who is going to take Victoria to the finals.

The jury reaction to Christine just confirms that there's just something off about her, which is probably the impression I kept getting and why I couldn't root for her despite always going for the nerd girls.
 
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Loved the Cody/Caleb judo chopping the gold button yesterday. The ball game Caleb and Cody did on AD last night and Frankie thought he could be big and butch and throw as well. Also, Cody was lying on his side and Frankie came in, laid down against Cody's side, put his hand on Cody's chest and began pinching his nips through his shirt. Cody good naturedly thrust the hand away giving Frankie a no-no look.

I was glad to hear the jury talk about Derrick and that they know he is playing a good game and knows he is the reason they are all there. I am with Dan. I like Derrick's game and I like him as a person. Hard for me to like Caleb after listening to that hate speech about the President and gays. That happened before the house and he won't be judged by that but I do like I judge Ray Rice and Goodell.
 
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Caleb just told Cody: "Derrick needs to take one for them team and go on the block instead of Frankie."

In related news, I just came.
 
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Praise be to one of Grodner's lame-ass twists actually benefiting one of my favorites for once. Though Victoria was totally ready to get the fuck away from those guys tonight. "WHERE'S MY SUITCASE???"
 
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I'm not gonna lie, Donny and Hayden zinging Christine in the jury house gave me life.
 
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The best scenario for Victoria might actually be facing Caleb in the finals. Derrick vs Victoria and they easily give it to Derrick because they clearly like/respect him, Frankie vs Victoria and he has too many comp wins and the pressure on voters not to piss off Ariana's fans, Cody vs Victoria and I could see them begrudgingly giving it to Cody since he wasn't mean to key voters like Jocasta and Donny. But Caleb vs Victoria? Now that's interesting. None of them think Victoria played well but they also don't respect Caleb/think he's crazy. In that scenario, I could see Nicole/Hayden/Donny/Jocasta/Christine easily voting for Victoria, Zach/Frankie would vote for Caleb, and Derrick/Cody would be wildcards but that's already enough for her to win, plus Derrick is close to her anyway, plus Cody and Caleb have an unspoken rivalry. And the thing is, Caleb is capable of winning the end comps and taking Victoria because if it's a F3 scenario where he has to choose between Victoria or Derrick with 500 grand staring him in the face, I have to think even this psychotic twist can see the forest for the trees. Plus he's deluded enough to think everyone believes he was running the house.

HOWEVER, don't get to happy slipintothefog, because unless Caleb and/or Frankie grows a brain before F3 and targets Derrick/Cody, I don't see many scenarios where Victoria makes it to F3. If Frankie wins the reset POV, Victoria goes as planned. And even if she survives to F4, she'd likely be booted by whoever won the final POV. I mean...she could stumble ass backwards into the F4 HOH (it's more likely than you think that comp has had WTF-winners in the past like BB3 Danielle, BB4 Robert, BB11 Natalie and BB13 Adam) but I wouldn't bet on it.
 
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Meh. I was already expecting her to go last night so any longer she goes now is just bonus for me. At this point I expect/accept that Derrick will win and I'd rather him get it than the other three guys.
 
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I expect/accept that Derrick will win and I'd rather him get it than the other three guys.

Yeah I've reached that point too. Though for maximum satisfaction, I'd like it to be Derrick/Frankie in the F2, so Frankie can get his ass kicked with jury votes and suffer the humiliation of losing to a "commoner."
 
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The best scenario for Victoria might actually be facing Caleb in the finals. Derrick vs Victoria and they easily give it to Derrick because they clearly like/respect him, Frankie vs Victoria and he has too many comp wins and the pressure on voters not to piss off Ariana's fans, Cody vs Victoria and I could see them begrudgingly giving it to Cody since he wasn't mean to key voters like Jocasta and Donny. But Caleb vs Victoria? Now that's interesting. None of them think Victoria played well but they also don't respect Caleb/think he's crazy. In that scenario, I could see Nicole/Hayden/Donny/Jocasta/Christine easily voting for Victoria, Zach/Frankie would vote for Caleb, and Derrick/Cody would be wildcards but that's already enough for her to win, plus Derrick is close to her anyway, plus Cody and Caleb have an unspoken rivalry. And the thing is, Caleb is capable of winning the end comps and taking Victoria because if it's a F3 scenario where he has to choose between Victoria or Derrick with 500 grand staring him in the face, I have to think even this psychotic twist can see the forest for the trees. Plus he's deluded enough to think everyone believes he was running the house.

HOWEVER, don't get to happy slipintothefog, because unless Caleb and/or Frankie grows a brain before F3 and targets Derrick/Cody, I don't see many scenarios where Victoria makes it to F3. If Frankie wins the reset POV, Victoria goes as planned. And even if she survives to F4, she'd likely be booted by whoever won the final POV. I mean...she could stumble ass backwards into the F4 HOH (it's more likely than you think that comp has had WTF-winners in the past like BB3 Danielle, BB4 Robert, BB11 Natalie and BB13 Adam) but I wouldn't bet on it.

Frankie is the only person she might stand a chance against. Frankie can say he 'earned' it or 'deserves it' but in the end of the day they're not giving half a million dollars to someone they hate, especially if he already has millionaire relatives. Victoria doesn't really have any enemies. They don't respect her but they don't dislike her.
 
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Oh I could see Victoria beating Frankie too, but with his famous sister and the Shelly Effect, and Victoria's status as one of the worst players ever, Frankie vs Victoria is a big WHO THE FUCK KNOWS?

Whereas I'd be genuinely surprised if Donny/Nicole/Christine/Hayden/Jocasta vote for Caleb over Victoria. They all think Victoria is a joke, but they also think Caleb is crazy, and that group of five ranges between no-ill will toward Victoria and outright preferring her.
 
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I would get in on this discussion but I always suck at predicting how the jury is going to vote anyway. I was convinced Elissa was going to vote for Gina Marie last year, for example, and that GM actually stood a chance against Andy rather than the 7-2 near blowout we ended up getting.

I would also shrug off the so-called "Shelly Effect" since that was an isolated incident that ending up being the deciding vote in BB13, but we did see Nicole worrying that Ariana's fans would hate her for nominating Frankie when she was HOH, so there's something there.
 
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It's not just Nicole either. Pretty much all of them have talked on the feeds about being scared to put Frankie up and piss off his fans (LOL if they only knew!). In fact that's why Caleb didn't want to put Frankie up this week and had to be strong-armed by Derrick.

In related news, Frankie is going on and on about how Caleb nominating him is the worst betrayal ever and how Caleb only cares about money and how everyone watching this must hate Caleb now for turning on Frankie and LMAO!!!! You know he's just butt hurt because he thought he could replace Amber in Caleb's psychotic affections.
 
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And maybe Frankie would still actually have some fans if he could read this situation and realize that Caleb is a brainless twit who was encouraged by Derrick to put [Frankie] up as a pawn rather than Cody or Derrick. But nah. "Caleb's dreamy and how could he do this to me!! (But meanwhile I had to get my showmance Zach out as soon as I could because reasons.)"
 
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And yeah I'm probably being paranoid and making too big a deal out of the Shelly effect. I mean Rachel had NO SOCIAL GAME and Shelly hated her so that threw me for a loop. But you're right slip that she was just one vote (Adam for example, had no problem voting against Rachel despite sucking Jeff off all season long) and Rachel had three locked votes going into the finals that Frankie does not have.
 
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Derrick just told Victoria he would "honestly" take her to the finals if he had the choice between her and Cody. MAKE IT HAPPEN DERRICK.
 
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I don't recall if Shelly's ever outright stated why she voted for Rachel but there's a few different possible reasons in there. Of course the obvious one is that she went to jury and begged for Jeff and Jordan's forgiveness and voted for Rachel in search of clemency. Then there's the fact that the cat ladies were sending threats to her daughter and she voted with Jeff and Jordan for the same reason. And who knows, maybe she was just a little bitter at Porsche for opening the Pandora's Box (which was the twist that got Shelly herself evicted) even though Daniele warned all of her soldiers not to do it before she got evicted.
 
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OH LORD. Frankie is talking to the cameras and he just said he's the target because he's the star of the show. Then he compared himself to Janelle and the rest of the house to the Nerd Herd.

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Derrick just told Victoria he would "honestly" take her to the finals if he had the choice between her and Cody. MAKE IT HAPPEN DERRICK.

I would only believe this if Derrick said it in a DR since he's been doing this sort of thing with the Detonators all summer. And although he's been pandering to America harder since Donny's eviction week he does tend to be candid with his plans in the DRs.
 
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The pathetic part is if Frankie wins the redo POV (which I'm sure he will) and he's safe for one more week, he'll forget everything and crawl right back up Caleb's ass again.

Indeed Frankie is such a cheap date, if we said one nice thing about him right now on this board, he'd forgive even me and slip.
 
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