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Bob Woodward blasts President Obama ‘madness’

Not an apologist at all. I'm telling the truth as I see it. I am not an apologist for anyone and I'm not affiliated with either major political party. I will state my own opinions. Politico... debatable at best what they put out. Regardless of where they stand politically. And as far as policies, glad to see some having balls to defend their policies.

It is intimidation of the press to force a narrative that is not true. It is the type of tactics one would expect out of the previous administration, not from this one. There is a big difference between defending policies and freezing out the press when they print negative things about those policies. One is censorship, while the other is how our system is supposed to work in the first place.

Politico is not debatable. If anything, they lean left, and have for quite a while.
 
It is intimidation of the press to force a narrative that is not true. It is the type of tactics one would expect out of the previous administration, not from this one. There is a big difference between defending policies and freezing out the press when they print negative things about those policies. One is censorship, while the other is how our system is supposed to work in the first place.

Politico is not debatable. If anything, they lean left, and have for quite a while.

Politico is the National Inquirer of news sources and I would actually put them below Fox News as a viable source.
 
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Apologist.

Even the more left-leaning members of the press admit that the Obama administration has been more opaque and vindictive than GWB's. That's saying a lot for how bad it is. If you read the stories coming out of politico, you'd understand truly how much the administration is interfering with reporters.

The fact of the matter is that any time any member of the press writes anything negative about the president or his policies, the White House lashes out and does everything in their power to a) Limit access to the White House, b) Smear the reporter that wrote the article, and c) Lean heavily on that reporter's news outlet to take action against the reporter. The instances of this happening are clear and unambiguous.

You have got to be kidding. We are talking about the same Bush Administration that fired generals for not giving them the information they wanted to hear?
 
Frankly, I think Woodward is going senile.

I read the email....I think the old girl just grabbed the wrong end of the stick.

The tone and the substance of the email was not threatening...it was more of a caution that by taking the position he was...he would be proven to not only be wrong, but to look like an idiot.

Well he certainly looks like an idiot.
 
Politico is the National Inquirer of news sources and I would actually put them below Fox News as a viable source.

Wow talk about bullshit

Politico director Jim Vandehei does a weekly MJ appearance. Check it

He's anything but a nut or far anything

He broke the admin treats the press corps like shit story couple weeks back

As for GC you're standard wont read won't consider anything negative about Obama has reached epic proportion

Time to turn the dial (for me)

No need for your auto play to take up real life
 
Frankly, I think Woodward is going senile.

I read the email....I think the old girl just grabbed the wrong end of the stick.

The tone and the substance of the email was not threatening...it was more of a caution that by taking the position he was...he would be proven to not only be wrong, but to look like an idiot.

Well he certainly looks like an idiot.

Well luckily for Woodward he has lived a life that speaks for itself

And has credibility

His smearers - "he's senile" - not at all

Keep flailing - it's reflexive I know
 
I think the most telling part for Obama is his refusal to accept essentially line item authority on the budget.

The president was not offered authority to select the cuts. One cannot "refuse to accept" that which he has not been offered.

The president does not support being offered the authority to make selective cuts, because that does not address the problem. Taxes need to be reformed, and the Republicans refuse to negotiate tax reform.


Even though the Senate failed to give a plan that would allow Obama to select the cuts instead of the meat cleaver approach...

Exactly.


had Obama chosen to support that idea he could make the necessary cuts.

"Making the necessary cuts" would not be a solution to the problem. The issue is tax reform, not just spending cuts.


The Administration is afraid the backlash of losing support after choosing cuts will hamper or eliminate any movement they have for other monumental issues like immigration reform, gun policy, and making long term structural improvements to medicare.

I don't doubt that the administration would be afraid of the backlash from making cuts to people. But that is the point. The administration does not believe that cutting worthwhile programs and people is necessary, when tax reform is a better solution to the problem.

Regrettably, the Republican Party will not allow the problem to be dealt with appropriately.


Those of you joking about the cuts to specific thing not having a consequence across the country should hope to have decent savings. When all of the department of defense civilian employees take a 20% cut in pay so will economic activity across the country. The small companies that depend upon reliable defense spending will crumble and so will all of the support industries in the towns they are located. Like it or not we have ridden out the economic storm because of government spending. Cutting that life line to our economy will be like cutting your airline underwater.

Exactly. That's why it would be irresponsible of the president to support only the ability for him to make cuts. What he needs is the ability to raise revenue through tax reform.


We have not really moved forward on fixing these issues for almost five years now. It is time.

Exactly. We have had a major party which has refused to participate in the governmental process for five years now. It has been rendered incompetent by virtue of its internal dysfunction.

Just this morning, Mitch McConnell appeared on CNN, claiming the sequester was great, even as John Boehner was on Meet the Press, saying it was terrible and must be stopped.

Republicans refuse to negotiate on the sequester, and can't even seem to decide what policy they want to support. America is paralyzed by the failure within the Republican Party.
 
I don't doubt that the administration would be afraid of the backlash from making cuts to people. But that is the point. The administration does not believe that cutting worthwhile programs and people is necessary, when tax reform is a better solution to the problem.

Regrettably, the Republican Party will not allow the problem to be dealt with appropriately.

My position as well. The fact that the Republican minority (emphasis mine) has staunchly adopted a position of: absolutely no tax increase, it must be spending cuts, but we refuse to say what should be cut and attach ourselves to those unpopular cuts drives me nuts. If you want to be backseat lost election majorities from a minority position, then own all of it and propose the cuts. If not, deal with big bad Obama being difficult pursuing what he was re-elected to do and not what the Republican minority feels he should do.

Not leading the way the lost party WANTS him to =/= "he isn't leading." And not using his mandate to carry out the will of the Republican minority =/= "utterly won't compromise." Particularly considering that at this point, Boehner is little but a hostage to the will of the Tea Party.
 
Any lengths to defend Obama .. even the destruction of liberal leaning journalist.

... maybe Woodward hates black presidents.

Frankly, I think Woodward is going senile.

I read the email....I think the old girl just grabbed the wrong end of the stick.

The tone and the substance of the email was not threatening...it was more of a caution that by taking the position he was...he would be proven to not only be wrong, but to look like an idiot.

Well he certainly looks like an idiot.
 
I would like to see some people who are actually affected by these cuts (and any cuts people plan on making) actually write some opinion pieces on the matter. All I see is bullshit from people who have plenty of money and jobs that are unaffected by the cuts (most of them being "journalists") who really wouldn't be affected no matter what happens. It's easy to play around with the livelihoods of others when you're not personally affected by any of it. It's the same shit you see when politicians like to push to send other people's kids to war while keeping their's safely here at home.
 
THE DESTRUCTION OF A LIBERAL LEANING JOURNALIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE EVISCERATION OF A CARD-CARRYING PARTY MEMBER!!!!!

THE... something... of... some... one...


Jack, when will you finally come to terms with the simple fact that liberals aren't a herd, and when one of ours is wrong, we don't stay quiet like you guys do? It isn't THAT complex of an idea, is it?

...don't answer that...
 
Yeah, everything this president has done for the LGBT community, and still the Christianist white supremacists among us can't see him as anything else but "black".

That right. The Outcasts can't deal with the fact that a black man WAS ELECTED TWO TIMES!! Altho the election was 4 months ago they're still wetting their pants over it. They're nipping at his heels with every move the President makes, criticizing his every word, his every turn.

These bed wetters are sore losers and will never accept that a black man is their President.

Just wait until a woman is elected President. The Outcasts will wear out their keyboards criticizing her 24/7.
 
Any lengths to defend Obama .. even the destruction of liberal leaning journalist.

... maybe Woodward hates black presidents.

Well to begin with. The email 'threat' wasn't from Obama.

Here it is girls:

Here's an excerpt from Sperling:

I apologize for raising my voice in our conversation today. I do understand your problems with a couple of our statements in the fall -- but feel on the other hand that you focus on a few specific trees that gives a very wrong perception of the forest. But perhaps we will just not see eye to eye here. But I do truly believe you should rethink your comment about saying saying that Potus asking for revenues is moving the goal post. I know you may not believe this, but as a friend, I think you will regret staking out that claim ... My apologies again for raising my voice on the call with you. Feel bad about that and truly apologize.
Woodward, who would later profess to be unnerved by Sperling's email, replied very calmly:

Gene: You do not ever have to apologize to me. You get wound up because you are making your points and you believe them. This is all part of a serious discussion. I for one welcome a little heat; there should more given the importance. I also welcome your personal advice.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/28/bob-woodward-emails-white-house-threat_n_2781052.html

Now how the Hell that is supposed to be an existential threat is totally beyond me.
 
Well to begin with. The email 'threat' wasn't from Obama.

Here it is girls:



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/28/bob-woodward-emails-white-house-threat_n_2781052.html

Now how the Hell that is supposed to be an existential threat is totally beyond me.

sperling works for Obama my good man - he is an extension of the President

see Kathleen Parker's take on the matter - wash. post - previously posted by moi (that's french for me)

and how the Obama admin "handles" the press and why it's dangerous

see the Politico.com take on the obama admin keeps the press at bay - jim vandehei who YOU watch on MJ weekly don't you ?
 
are you sure? because I feel like the only people constantly referring to Obama's race, at least on this forum, are people trying to frame any opposition as racially motivated.

I assume Jack was referencing the aforementioned "anyone who criticizes Obama gets branded as a racist" pattern, though I guess he's welcome to defend himself.

Loki, since you're a white guy, I will let you in on a secret. One of the best ways to spot a real-life, honest-to-goodness racist isn't to look for the people throwing around the n-word left and right. It's look for the people attacking literally everything about a group except their race and insisting they aren't racists.

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Another good way in general just as a bonus tip is when someone is frequently prefacing or following up their comments about groups with "but I'm not prejudiced, I have plenty of friends who are ____."

Quite literally, the Republicans never have anything good to say about Obama on any topic, and virtually every single thing Obama does and says becomes an immediate effected outrage far surpassing every (pardon my language) fucking sick twisted thing that utterly defined rule under their party's dominance during George W. Bush's administration, which most of them were utterly fucking silent about for 6~ years.
 
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Thanks always reliable Bob. The race card gets thrown around here more than bread crumbs to pigeons in a park.

Disagreeing with President Obama does not make anyone a racist -- but seems bring charges of racism here every time.

In my opinion those who can't allow President Obama to be just a man and only want him to be a black man are the ones who have problems with racism.
 
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