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Caitlyn could be Bruce again.

mikey3000 said:
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That's sarcasm isn't it?

Sarcasm and irony have became so fashionable in the second half of the 20th century that certain young people think they can be "cool" and "super-ironic" by turning themselves into quislings.

Quislings live in one country and pretend to belong to another. Other quislings live in one body and pretend to be another's.
 
mikey3000 said:
I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE how you once again label others' opinions as either, 'stupid, ignorant or prejudiced.' Your ego knows no bounds.
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But the opinions he is speaking of are stupid, ignorant or prejudiced. It's funny it's usually the same people that have these opinions when it comes across the board, though.
 
mikey3000 said:
I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE how you once again label others' opinions as either, 'stupid, ignorant or prejudiced.' Your ego knows no bounds.
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I have no problem calling out opinions which are only based on wilful ignorance and prejudice.

That isn't ego.
 
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^ This famous Californian should do what they want to do. They can wear whatever clothes they like and drive whatever cars they can afford and they can vote for whatever politician they like.

But that's no reason for people like us to worship them and call them a goddess and some kind of role model. They can change back and forth and back again just like this English person, below, is changing back and forth.



 
pat grimshaw said:
But that's no reason for people like us to worship them and call them a goddess and some kind of role model. They can change back and forth and back again just like this English person, below, is changing back and forth.
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It is also no reason to degrade and insult someone.

Your unceasing campaign to strip transgendered people of their intrinsic human worth only reminds us all of how toxic your own soul must be.

Your attempt to equate transgendered people with someone who dresses as a dog for a hobby and to relax demonstrates that you don't have even the most basic knowledge of the real biological and psychological nature of gender dysmorphia. To you it is just a freak show and a joke.

From the World Health Organization:

United Nations entities call on States to act urgently to end violence and discrimination against lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex (LGBTI)1 adults, adolescents and children

All people have an equal right to live free from violence, persecution, discrimination and stigma. International human rights law establishes legal obligations on States to ensure that every person, without distinction, can enjoy these rights. While welcoming increasing efforts in many countries to protect the rights of LGBTI people, we remain seriously concerned that around the world, millions of LGBTI individuals, those perceived as LGBTI and their families face widespread human rights violations. This is cause for alarm – and action.

Failure to uphold the human rights of LGBTI people and protect them against abuses such as violence and discriminatory laws and practices, constitute serious violations of international human rights law and have a far-reaching impact on society – contributing to increased vulnerability to ill health including HIV infection, social and economic exclusion, putting strain on families and communities, and impacting negatively on economic growth, decent work and progress towards achievement of the future Sustainable Development Goals. States bear the primary duty under international law to protect everyone from discrimination and violence. These violations therefore require an urgent response by governments, parliaments, judiciaries and national human rights institutions. Community, religious and political leaders, workers’ organizations, the private sector, health providers, civil society organizations and the media also have important roles to play. Human rights are universal – cultural, religious and moral practices and beliefs and social attitudes cannot be invoked to justify human rights violations against any group, including LGBTI persons.
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http://www.who.int/reproductivehealth/publications/gender_rights/lgbti-un-statement/en/

So if the World Health Organization recognizes Transgendered people as having intrinsic worth and deserving of recognition....what the fuck makes you think that you somehow hold an intellectually or morally superior position.

As for the guy in the dog costume.

Methinks thou doth protest too much.

I shudder to even imagine what your own kink is.
 
I know how the Catholics like to worship their saints and how the Lapsed-Catholics like to get emotional over their role-models. Because they think certain things in life should be hidden from sight and kept reverently behind some Veil of Sanctity.

Well here's someone else going on the international media to show themselves off as a role-model to the world—

 
pat grimshaw said:
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^ This famous Californian should do what they want to do. They can wear whatever clothes they like and drive whatever cars they can afford and they can vote for whatever politician they like.

. . .
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I wonder if California has limits as to how many times, or how often, a resident can have their name [legally] changed.

Or, perhaps, in the US, having one's name changed is a Federal affair?
 
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Americans were famous for their "Can Do" Attitude and their practical "How-To" Self-Improvement books, such as—

How To Win Friends and Influence People

How To Fix A Lightbulb in Ten Easy Steps

How To Be a Millionaire in a Decade

How To Marry a Millionaire


I have just found out how a certain over-famous Californian picked up one of those "How-To" Self Improvement books and chose their replacement first name. :?

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sokker said:
Sorry, but I don't support the trans agenda. It's inherently homophobic and misogynistic. There's something seriously wrong when CHILDREN are allowed hormones. We have no idea what the health effects are. I say do whatever the fuck you want as an adult. If you want to go on hormones and have the srs at 18, fine. But before then it should be BANNED. Parents only put children on hormones because it's easier to accept a fake straight child than a gay one anyway. Homophobic parents putting children who do not adhere to strict gender norms on puberty blockers is a HUGE problem. These kids would most likely grow up to be gay or lesbian. Close to 80 % of the GID children grow up to be GAY or LESBIAN, NOT transgender. This is why I believe the whole ideology is homophobic. The gay and lesbian movement has always been about accepting people AS THEY ARE, whether they are femme guys or masculine women, it doesn't make them any less of a man or a woman. The trans agenda tells them there is something wrong with them and they have to change to fit in.

There's also something seriously wrong when MEN can now enter all female-only spaces, including locker rooms and rest rooms. It's enough to claim you "feel" like a woman and ALL rapists, pedophiles etc will get access. This is why I'm against the bathroom bills. And before you call me a "bigot", if you don't want to sleep with a man with a vagina, according to the trans lobby you too are a bigot, as are drag queens and everyone who doesn't agree to 100 % of the trans ideology. If you just question it, if you respect trans people, refuse to use trans slurs, if you support anti-discrimination based on gender in housing, employment and other civil rights, but are still against the bathroom bill, then you are branded "transphobic". I support trans people even though I don't believe gays and lesbians have anything in common with them, actually.. our goals are opposite (i.e. accepting people as they are vs saying there is something "wrong" with them if they don't adhere to gender norms and they need to change). According to trans people I am a bigot, even though I support most of what they are fighting for, i.e. anti-discrimination bills in employment and housing. I just cannot accept the bathroom bills, or putting children on hormones.

Last but not least, ask yourself why countries like IRAN allow gay men to choose between a free srs to live as a fake woman or be thrown off a rooftop to their death as a gay man. If that isn't proof that the trans agenda is conservative and regressive I don't know what is.
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Can't say I agree entirely, but your first paragraph is worth pondering.
 
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Seriously, what is wrong with people/societies who are even the least bit interested in that trash?




OK, yeah, I did have to chuckle a bit over Bruce's gunboats, though.
 
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