Can A Gay Guy Go Bi?

[AsianDream]

Or just underexposure to the overlooked hegemony white Americana.
Nice of you to explain. Some people can be such elitists about trivial cultural knowledge, reinforcing a hegemony which they deny and claim to be an issue of "common knowledge". If I read right, which my illiterate self may not always do, it seems our Asian friend here has not had the full "American experience" if any at all (as suggest by mention of language complications.)
Sorry for my pomposity, big words give my ego a hard on.
Carry on.

Actually I love long English words - know more of them many native speakers.

The "White USA Hegemony" cultural references can be a problem - but why the fuck should anyone know about a cartoon dog with a speech problem?

Having an Ego hard on is not a bad thing - though maybe feeding your Id is more fun

 

[wenchine-mahtapasikan]

Actually I love long English words - know more of them many native speakers.

The "White USA Hegemony" cultural references can be a problem - but why the fuck should anyone know about a cartoon dog with a speech problem?

Having an Ego hard on is not a bad thing - though maybe feeding your Id is more fun

Lol, cute.
My Id tends to have explosive orgasms so I try not to feed it in public.
I wasn't saying you're bad at English, I was just repeating something I thought you said earlier.
Oops, typo of my own. I meant hegemonic.
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Back to topic.
I have similar problem. Although I like guys way better, I have so many crushes on girls I have a hard time indulging because I've internalized all that sexual dichotomy bullshit. I hate gender roles in straight relationships as well, but there are so many girls who don't like them either I'm scared to consider because the world keeps saying "can't like both".
Even the gay community, the supposed haven of tolerance, is so shitty about this. Even in the gayest shows where everything is controlled by gays (at least in the audience), such as QAF and Glee, bisexuality in any form is not allowed to exist. You have people who clearly have had bisexual experiences, such as the adopted kid in QAF. After pining after so many different men, especially Brian, is just takes one girl and he's on the straight and narrow. They give a little explanation, but it's not enough to fool me. One of the QAF lezzies has a hot fling with a man, but the bisexuality is treated more villainously at times than the simple act of infidelity. Well, this is just one of my many problems with QAF... so let's not go there.
Hope to hear more from you.

 

[thespunkpup]

I've found myself getting more and more turned on by bi porn lately too. Just enjoy whatever you find enjoyable, stud.

 

[AsianDream]

Even the gay community, the supposed haven of tolerance, is so shitty about this. Even in the gayest shows where everything is controlled by gays (at least in the audience), such as QAF and Glee, bisexuality in any form is not allowed to exist. You have people who clearly have had bisexual experiences, such as the adopted kid in QAF.

I think this is a USA thing – the basic idea is that anything other than STR8 is bad – but these poor Gay/BI people have a birth defect – so can’t help themselves. Their basic idea is that we’re disabled – so need sympathy.

 

[wenchine-mahtapasikan]

Are you saying the attitude is like that in US or HK?
Hey, that attitude sucks, but it is better than some of the alternatives.

 

[conrad]

When at the tender age of fifteen I bonded in deep friendship with the new guy in town we commenced a year-long adventure in learning by doing all the things that two youngs can do together sexually. We never thought of ourselves as gay.

The summmer after our junior year was open to ventures with others as my partner was on a ranch in Montana.

That summer I had a wonderful weeks long introduciton to the joys to be had in sexual communion with a lady. I did not then think of my self as straight. And when my teen lover returned we continued to enjoy homosexual contact and never once decided we should call ourselves bi. I did not tell him about my sex with a lovely girl and he did not tell me what happened sexually for him out West.

We both married eventually. I cheerfully call myself bisexual because I have had successful long term sexual relationships with both men and women.

I never inquire about how he labels himself these days but we both admit that our long term loving relationship was important to our whol lives.

 

[AsianDream]

Are you saying the attitude is like that in US or HK?
Hey, that attitude sucks, but it is better than some of the alternatives.

No in HK - the view of many people (including my family) is that those that are gay are bad people -

In the USA it is more "Gays" are "disabled peopke" - with a sad birth defect - and can;t help themselves.

As I've been BI for a couple of months - am going to change my label

 

[XLeatherX]

For several years, I considered myself gay because I only slept with men. I never found women gross or unappealing, I just wasn't all that interested in having sex with them. But lately, I can't think about anything else. It started by watching a lot of straight / bi porn, and realizing that it turned me on more than the gay stuff now. Then I found myself more and more attracted to specific women. My sexual fantasies began to include women more often than men. Now I'm practically humping the mattress. I feel like a girl-crazy adolescent.

What is happening to me?

You're discovering that you're bisexual and also attracted to women.

It's more common than people think.

I know a fair amount of men who came out as being gay when they were younger or as a young adult and then later they discovered that they are bisexual.

A man that's gay like I am can not somehow change or force himself to be bisexual.

If you're a gay man like I am you can have sex with only women, be a complete virgin to men, and you're still going to be gay or homosexual and only sexually attracted to men for your entire life.

I can tell if a woman is beautiful but that does not mean I want to have sex with her. I've never had any sexual attraction or arousal toward any woman.

 

[AlmondMilk]

Sexuality shouldn't be labeled black or white. Gay and straight people become curious... it's life.

 

[Level27]

And yet gays still do it to bisexuals. And when a bisexual returns the compliment, you get all butt hurt and have to cry about it. That chip on the shoulder you are crying about is the one sitting on your own shoulder.

Honestly, Willie Boy, from an outsider observing the inside, I see that both of you have been pointing the fingers and both of you have been butt hurt while exclaiming that the other has been falsely and unfairly pointing the finger.

Let's just leave it at that, please.




Anyways, the reason I rehashed this thread is because I was also a member of outstraight.net. Only, I, on the other hand, support the "yestergay" movement that they were a part of. Not that I necessarily appreciated the subtle yet apparent prejudice that generally seemed to have been seeping from the members on the site. Their erotica was enamored with "Men are protectors," "gay guys do not know commitment," "in my experience, gays aren't 'real' men'" (you would think that one died out with last decade's society...), etc. etc. Still, I had a heart for those straight/straight-bisexual men who thought they were gay and those bisexual guys who thought they were gay but learned of their smaller straight tendencies and came out as bisexual. These people need the support of others as well, and I, as a gay guy who want support from other people for being gay, would know how hard it must be for these guys when they don't have much or any support for their experience, especially when such support should be coming from the people who demand it for their own mis-understood sexuality.


After having visited this site for a while, I have developed the yestergay fetish: the idea of a gay guy turning straight or bi is erotically gratifying to me, regardless of whether it's fictional or non. My theory as to how I became aroused to this is that human sexuality is always craving something novel, a new sort of erotic experience of some sort. Once I validated the idea of this different "kind" of gay guy, one that can and does turn "straight," there was a new kind of erotic image for me to fantacize about. Now, I can't get enough of the fantasy! I even imagine myself from time to time being one of these gays turning straight, even though I know I am and forever will be gay-bisexual. It's a good jack-off session for me lol

Sadly, the site is now deleted with it's domain open in the air. I was in the middle of writing an erotic fiction for that site, but I guess I won't have any reason to finish it, now that it's gone. Unless you all don't mind me posting it here on this site. Do you?

 

[acheilles]

Aaaahhh... this is me! I thought I was the only one. Most of my life I've identified as gay. I love men. I love dick. I love masculinity! But I know I'm also attracted to women; hot barbie doll feminine girls! I've pretty much switched to straight or bi porn. I get sooo turned on by pussy. It used to be difficult talking about this to friends because it's generally dismissed (to go from gay to bi) but I no longer give a fuck what anyone thinks. I know what I like and don't need someone else to validate it or tell ME what I like.

I'm a huge believer of the Kinsey scale. I think the majority of people fall somewhere in between making most people a shade of bi. I don't really care to know how someone identifies (straight, gay, bi, curious etc). We are all humans with various needs - air, water, food, and SEX... one of the most powerful driving forces in our lives (see Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs). As Shakespeare said, "What's in a name, that which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet."
I LOVE DICK AND I LOVE PUSSY! Yummmmm!!!!

 

[versatileplayer]

OK back on topic -

As a guy who has always been pretty bi - leaning toward gay.....

I say - what does it matter? If you want to fuck girls - go for it! If you want to fuck guys - go for it!

 

[cabanaboy80]

I like this thread...I consider myself gay as a label I guess and am with a guy right now. I am however a closet pussy eater. Not into fucking women but love to eat them out. Either in a 3-way with their guy doing me in the ass or vice versa, or one on one but I like to muff dive. I don't look for reciprocation from women though, just to eat them out and that's it. It started with a friend in college who knew I was gay and she wanted to convert me. I told her I was "gay" and didn't get into girls but as a consolation prize I would eat her pussy and I did and was hooked. I like cock much more but have never met a healthy pink pussy I wouldn't lick.

 

[Curiosity69]

I feel like most people are really bi, just with varying tastes.

A "gay" guy can easily go bi.

 

[alli-berri]

Fuck's sake, haven't we figured this out yet?

Next

 

[hotslim]

Uhh, I really want to be bi, anyone know any method how to be bi ?

 

[Lefty]

well slim, what worked for me was

being Mr. Straight and narrow,

Having a spouse who decided after 1 birth

and two stillbirths to retire from the sex field period.

Being steadfast loyal and understanding I, while not

in the least bit happy, acquiesced to her emotional

needs. After a lengthy period (several years of

to quell the raging testosterone tigers), I was out of state and

at a party where I got out of mind...

Later in the evening (ok, t was about 0230) I realized something

was happening... Not wanting to be a spoil sport,

I put on a GAYme face and entered the festivities.

I did not ingest or inhale enough for or .

Butt, I didn't get pregnant, I didn't feel the need to keep anyone on

the side. Did make a couple of friends and quit sleeping with my wifes

best friend. So, yes, it is possible to 'go' bi' from North/South and I can

not imagine why that would not hold true for East/West ers too.

 

[qget12]

I'm one of those who thinks everyone is Bi to an extent. Of course, that theory is always challenged as a fantasy whenever it comes to the argument of "well, if that's true, where are all the threads about gay dudes suddenly being turned on by women?". It's true that it does seem that its much rarer for this to happen than the common fantasy of straight dudes/ people being bicurious. However, I do think there's a reason for this.

Firstly, hardly anybody (at least initially) wants to be gay. Most of us fight it, we hide it, we deny it until it all gets too much for us and we realise that in order to be happy, we have to accept it as part of who we are. This whole process is usually traumatic, depressing, and extremely difficult. When we finally do accept it, it's like making peace with ourselves and feels like we've reached a destination.

Considering how difficult it is in getting to that destination, I think that anything that suggests it may not be the "final" destination for our sexuality immediately throws us off. I mean, it's much easier to be one thing wholly than lots of things separately. I don't think this is a concious thing either.

I don't know how or if this applies to people who have known they were gay since they were practically born (I doubt it does), but I know its something that is close to what happened/ is happening me. I went from having a girlfriend, being turned on by her and pretty much living a "straight" life, but the fact that I was mostly attracted to dudes and the idea that I might be/was/am gay has messed me up for a long time. I've spent that much time thinking about it that I feel like its all I know now. I'm almost never turned on by women now, but I find myself semi- often thinking about getting with one again, but I'm too worried that I won't be able to "get it up". It's almost like I know that I would enjoy it if I could just get over the anxiety of it.

Anyway, didn't mean for that to turn into a life story, but I honestly do think that everyone has the capacity to be attracted to both sexes, having experienced the feelings I have and having locked eyes with too many "straight" guys for me to think otherwise.

 

[Level27]

As a guy who has always been pretty bi - leaning toward gay.....

I say - what does it matter? If you want to fuck girls - go for it! If you want to fuck guys - go for it!

That is definitely valid. However, it should be fair say, it does matter, and for a good reason. We have here a bunch of guys who only thought they were exclusively gay only to realize that there is a new sect in their sexuality, and they are excited about it and want to "parade" it in a similar fashion that gay guys who just came out of the closet want to do so with their newly embraced sexuality. Hey, if you were to discover something great about yourself that you never thought was a part of you, whatever it might be, wouldn't you want celebrate it with yourself and/or with others? See what I mean?

 

[versatileplayer]

That is definitely valid. However, it should be fair say, it does matter, and for a good reason. We have here a bunch of guys who only thought they were exclusively gay only to realize that there is a new sect in their sexuality, and they are excited about it and want to "parade" it in a similar fashion that gay guys who just came out of the closet want to do so with their newly embraced sexuality. Hey, if you were to discover something great about yourself that you never thought was a part of you, whatever it might be, wouldn't you want celebrate it with yourself and/or with others? See what I mean?

I look at labels as hang ups. It's great for them that they've been further liberated, I don't be grudge that at all - have fun - celebrate - but don't stress. Fuck who you want to fuck and fuck good!