Can A Gay Guy Go Bi?

[Lefty]

Level, I appreciate your conciliatory gesture, I understand about bad days,
(I had one once lol) Apologies are not necessary.

My 3 advocates on here tell me I am hard to understand sometimes and
should be grateful they love me and are tolerant.

Just FYI, 99.2% of the time, I am not being vicious....just sarcastic, biting and
feebly attempting witty.

I've been released from level 21....just an abrasion and small bruise. Thx for
the follow up and through.

 

[AsianDream]

Just that exhibitionism and "attention-seeking" is not in my view dysfunctional.

Like "Wanker" - it's often used as an insult - but something most of us do and enjoy to some extent.

Yes, and by saying such, you are in agreement with my point. You do know that, right?

Yes - don't think I said I disagreed - my point was that "attention-seeking" is not a bad thing anyway.

 

[Level27]

Just that exhibitionism and "attention-seeking" is not in my view dysfunctional.

Like "Wanker" - it's often used as an insult - but something most of us do and enjoy to some extent.

Yes, and by saying such, you are in agreement with my point. You do know that, right?

Yes - don't think I said I disagreed - my point was that "attention-seeking" is not a bad thing anyway.

I realized that quite some time ago, friend.

If anything, I'd like that line of conversation to die out, as it is pointless to continue on it. Please carry on.

 

[AsianDream]

My favorite porn stars are hung, young muscular guys who suck cock and lick male ass, take dicks up their ass and also fuck and lick women. And if the men are into (male) watersports, too, it makes me drool. The weirdest is, that looking straight/bi porn did very little for me for many years. Sexuality is a funny thing.

Makes me wish I was muscular - but I do qualify for the rest (especially the BI watersports part)

 

[Waylord]

Well, AsianDream, I wrote that I like to watch porn with muscular guys doing this, that doesn´t mean that I don´t like other types of guys. In real life I stick to my bf, thpugh - but I like to exchange thoughts on sex... An watching your foursomes would be awesome ;-)

 

[AsianDream]

Well, AsianDream, I wrote that I like to watch porn with muscular guys doing this, that doesn´t mean that I don´t like other types of guys. In real life I stick to my bf, thpugh - but I like to exchange thoughts on sex... An watching your foursomes would be awesome ;-)

I guess the main point is that our sexuality is more fluid than we think.

But I know the whole concept of sexual orientation being a "Choice" plays into the hands of those fundamentalists who think people can be "cured" of being Gay.

Anyway – I do know my own experience – but I don’t say that being Bi-sexual wasn’t what I was all the time – maybe just that I didn’t know it.

I do think that for some bi-sexual people – including me – only a polysexual relationship can work. The fact that the sexual part of this is totally awesome for us is just a plus point against the fact that most other people don’t find this socially acceptable.

So it’s not at all easy to be “out” as both bi-sexual and in a poly relationship – not a problem for me as I was never “out” as being gay – but for my partners - even in the GLBT community - our type of relationship is not socially acceptable.

 

[Curiosity69]

Of course the answer is yes. Even the most gay of men could easily turn bi just like the most straight of guys could turn bi. Things change, your mind can do a 180 in a second. Anyone can be anything.

 

[AsianDream]

Of course the answer is yes. Even the most gay of men could easily turn bi just like the most straight of guys could turn bi. Things change, your mind can do a 180 in a second. Anyone can be anything.

I would tend to agree that people can be anything they want to

This seems to come back to the whole concept of sexual orientation being a "Choice".

Do we really chose our sexual orientation or is this just how we are?

 

[Level27]

Of course the answer is yes. Even the most gay of men could easily turn bi just like the most straight of guys could turn bi. Things change, your mind can do a 180 in a second. Anyone can be anything.

It may not be as simple as that.

There have been people who reported shifts in sexual interests throughout their lifetime. The most common of these in my own readings have been men who believed they were (exclusively) gay only to realized later in their middle or elderly-ages that they have been bisexual all along. (In fact, a few even say they were attracted to men "then" but are "more attracted to women" now!).

However, to say that anyone can possible do this if they set their mind to it is in the same boat as saying that you could be tall at a specific height if you set your mind to it. Surely, the knowledge of what good/bad foods to eat may merely benefit/stunt one's growth, but he/she can't become 6'9 merely through desire.

Now, I'm no expert in the field of biological science or sexual orientation. My best explanation to this phenomenon is, if anything, the shifts in sexual orientation in these specific men might be (indirectly) bioligcally fixed in them (and them alone): they, under certain circumstances or at a point in life, were meant to become bi due to that genetic/hormonal/biological predisposition. On the other hand, those other men who don't have that imprinted into their genes/biology will not become attracted to women what, how or whensoever. I don't know if I can necessarily back this up with proof, but it does currently seem to me the most logically plausible.

 

[Curiosity69]

I was not saying that they choose and set their mind to be one or the other, but their mind simply changes for no apparent reason.

It is the same reason that love often ends for no reason - someones opinion changes without their control, the same thing can happen for sexual preference. I'm not saying they literally say "I want to be gay/I want to be bi" then going about their business.

 

[Level27]

I see. Well then, we're probably in the same boat with a case of one saying potato, the other saying potahto. Unless, by saying "anyone," you mean that you believe everyone can possibly become bi/straight, because that, from my experience, hasn't been the case for some gay men...

 

[Lefty]

Good day my level headed buddy.

I am addressing this to you as you have shown in the past to be
able to look at all the aspects in a formula before stating your 'own'
opinion. Unlike some in the JUBesphere you don't make I AM RIGHT
AND I SAY SO PERIOD posts.

Keep in mind, the following is my opinion and only an opinion..my
years on this planet do not make me an EXSPURT shrink in any of
mans mental/emotional stages. Merely the 'potatoe' as I have been
living and observing it.

Mankind is born Vanilla, has the potential for liking the opposite sex,
the same sex or even any sex. The Vanilla can be anywhere from the
tapioca bland to double churned but is Vanilla. From birth to death
that vanilla vessel is constantly being exposed to different condiments.
Time and place and experience dictate what happens to the vanilla
and LIFE is a constant exposure to different flavors.

A monk theoretically eschews physicality, answering a higher call if you
will.Ancient Romans and Greeks were cultures that embraced physical
first, gender second. Many an adventurer had or was a sea wife when
circumstances dictate. Long term Prisoners and the ilk also modify their
standards. When circumstances change...so does the vanilla.

In brief (finally you say) all humans can and do modify, adjust and adapt
their sexuality to suit their environment and where their head is Today
So, in my opinion a resounding Yes.

 

[Level27]

I too believe that anyone can have sex with anyone. However, I was talking about sexual attraction, love. That, I believe, is fixed.

I must say, though, you do present a rather well-put point. If only the remnants of anti-gay America could also see things the way Ancient Grecians and Buddhist monks do, things would only be a wee-bit better.

 

[Lefty]

LEVEL 27 HAS POPPED HIS VERY
FIRST JUB CHERRY HERE, TODAY

Not a virgin anymore, he finally lost it ...,1,000 posts

 

[AsianDream]

LEVEL 27 HAS POPPED HIS VERY
FIRST JUB CHERRY HERE, TODAY

Not a virgin anymore, he finally lost it ...,1,000 posts

I worked out I'd still had "relations" with more guys than I've got posts on JUB - but guess that wouldn't be the case for those with over 27,500 posts!

 

[Lefty]

Hey Asian lemon sucker......

why so bitter. after 7 years abroad you should understand international

jocularity....'jub cherry' refers to my buddy reaching the thousand level.

Like your 'cherry', you can only pop/lose/give up/get that once.

As far as the relations thing is concerned...YES,YES,YES my posting over

fifty years has been significant Maybe your workouts need to be more ...well

extensive. Try physical relations, those mental ones will cease to be as

frequent, as needed or as satisfying.

Sorry Dreamer, I assumed your post was a bit or somewhat tongue-
in-cheek...thus my response was too...somewhat.

 

[AsianDream]

Try physical relations, those mental ones will cease to be as

frequent, as needed or as satisfying.

[/COLOR][/COLOR] Sorry Dreamer, I assumed your post was a bit or somewhat tongue-
in-cheek...thus my response was too...somewhat.

was - tongue-in-cheek. But was physical relations I was talking about!

 

[zebec847]

I have not read most of the posts on this string, however, I began life as gay and then after about 10 years of having my ass plowed discovered that eating and fucking pussy was quite pleasurable. Ironically, when I was younger all my friends were female. After I started fucking women, almost all my friends are now male. At this point, sex with women is great but I hate dealing with them as personalities. Would much rather have a straight man who is tired of women. Find most gay men boring.

 

[umjreon88]

I have not read most of the posts on this string, however, I began life as gay and then after about 10 years of having my ass plowed discovered that eating and fucking pussy was quite pleasurable. Ironically, when I was younger all my friends were female. After I started fucking women, almost all my friends are now male. At this point, sex with women is great but I hate dealing with them as personalities. Would much rather have a straight man who is tired of women. Find most gay men boring.

How did it happen for you? Give us details!

 

[zebec847]

Well it didn't happen all at once. I will give details but try to be as succint as possible since I could easily fill a few pages. My first experience with a woman (other than just kissing and playing around) was with a friend's neighbor. She knew we were gay and I think she set out to try to convert me. We started out kissing and when we eventually had sex it was lackluster. She was very wet and very loose and not at all what I was accustomed to with guys so that didn't really go anywhere. I had other girlfriends from time to time where we played around but did not have actual intercourse although there were blowjobs and fingering. Women have always found me attractive, several of them held me down and kissed me when I was only about 12 and they were in high school.

My next experience was much better and was with a girl I was dating. Her pussy was sweet and tight and she gave excellent blowjobs. I have to admit that I enjoyed her telling me about her first boyfriend teaching her to suck cock. He was enormously endowed and I can attest that he was a good instructor. I also got a charge out of licking her clit to orgasm, she enjoyed the "butterfly" tonguing and would writhe and moan with pleasure when I went down on her. I am very orally stimulated in general and love to lick man ass so the pussylicking was an easy adaptation. I was open with her about my own experiences and she claimed that it did not bother her. We eventually got married but sadly she died of cancer a few years later. Being married totally changed the dynamics of our relationship and it was not as much fun, mainly because of job conflicts that took her away 3 weeks out of 4 but also because there was a lot less sex. It was a valuable and life changing experience although very painful. I won't get married again unless its to a man and I daresay that most of the men I'm attracted to would not consider marrying another man. I've had several experiences with "str8" married men and almost always seem to fall in love with my str8 best friends.