Can gays just boycott Cody Cummings already?

[JSRD]

you want to boycott this?!?! look at that body! those pecs...those abs....and his huge dick! and his ass....mmmmm...sorry i can't do it.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

I would be negligent in my duties as "The guy who talks to porn stars" if I didn't post this..

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5p_PXMkga4[/ame]

 

[Dudepussy]

Cummings has a blog on his site. Everyone should go on and post comments letting him know he is tired.

http://www.codycummings.com/blog/

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

That is the interview to which I was referring. Which was about a year ago if I recall.

About 6 months ago.

Look.. he's got his audience and they too guide what he does. He's a performer. Obviously his audience likes what he's doing and he's giving them what he wants.

Just like on my blog where I get people telling me "you're an idiot and a homophobe and you hate gay people and nobody should read your blog" but my traffic is higher than most of he pay sites I work for.

do your thing as long as it works for you.

I'll tell you what I told all the people who told me that Fratmen sucked because the guys only did solo movies....If you don't like it, there's plenty of other sites out there for you.

 

[videoboi08]

I agree 100%.

I'm so sick and tired of the same "Straight" guys doing gay scene after gay scene. It makes me feel like shit because there is a large overtone of "straight is good, gay is bad."


I saw we boycott Cody Cummings, Chris Rockway, Reese Rideout and Leo Geamani. I'm so sick and tired of seeing these douchebags. Why should anyone want to watch a straight guy doing gay sex when they know they arn't into it mentally.





and @jayden
you dont have to go to his site to see him everywhere. he's usually a featured gallery every other day.

i'm not sure but didn't Leo Geamani state in aninterview that he's bisexal

 

[LiquidSky]

This attitude is why gay porn is so shitty nowadays. People find ways to exploit every penny out of situation while doing as little as possible and putting out the lowest quality product.

I review porn for another site. There's lots of high quality movies being made with guys who suck cock, eat ass, fuck and get fucked.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

i'm not sure but didn't Leo Geamani state in aninterview that he's bisexal

He did, yes.

but don't confuse some people with the facts, ok?

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

You know, I really wish Mariah Carey would stop recording all those love songs. i don't like them and since gay people don't fall in love and she has gay fans, she should stop singing them. And her music sucks anyway.

She should record only death metal because that's the kind of music I like.

So all gay people should refuse to buy her shitty RnB albums until she giver her fans what they want, which is death metal. oh, and she should stop wearing those dresses. I think they look cheap.

Who''s with me?

 

[joshz88]

It's just porn. He's not exploiting gay people, he's just making a living. If Cody can do what he does and make guys get an erection, then I say job well done. That's what porn is for. If you are looking for good leadership and role models in the gay community, there are so many other places in the media and outside of the media to look for that. I've seen two of his videos before and I enjoyed them, and it has nothing to do with him being straight. Hell, I had no idea he was straight until I saw this thread and went to his website. He's a hot guy and I enjoyed watching him; it has nothing to do with being a "low self-esteem fag" as the OP put it. I've never gotten the impression that gay-for-pay performers are putting out the idea that straight men are better than gay men, because all they are doing is performing to get a paycheck. Porn is entertainment...just take it for what is.

 

[Rex]

I don't think the OP understands that there's a market for anything and everything. Yeah, CC is a good looking guy. He's probably making plenty of money doing what he does. Is this because his target audience is pathetic? lol No. It's a niche market. A lot of gay males like to see heterosexual males in action. Is that wrong of them? Nope...different strokes.

This logic is the same as this..."I don't like hardcore bondage porn. I think we should boycott it because it's degrading to the submissive individuals."

I think the issue though is that is sends the message that straight > gay, and regardless of whether it's intentional it DOES send that message when you consider how much the gay4pay thing has overpowered the industry.

You can't hate on him because he's giving the people what they want. The audience is to blame rather than the models.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

So.. you want him to make a change to his site which could alienate his fan base and probably wouldn't attract enough new fans to replace them?

Because...

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

I'm not saying every week but even you have to admit it is the same thing every month.

It's called "sticking to the formula."

Trying to do something "new" to attract a new audience always chases away the fan base.

I've been making porn for years. I've been marketing porn for years.

I'm damn good at it.

I'd tell him not to do it if he asked me.

Because he's got a winning formula right now and fucking with that is a great way fuck with his success. I get so fucking tired of people who don't like a porn site who go on tirades about it. If you're not into what he's doing but he's successful doing it, the last thing he should do it change the direction to please you.

one of the reasons I seldom pay much attention to a few members here at JUB who always dog every thread I start with models is that they're not members.... listening to people who AREN'T your members and what they want is a fool's game.

If you want to see guys have sex with guys... why not join sites that feature guys having sex with guys? There's plenty of them. Fuck, I work for TWO.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

If you were recieving negative feedback - not for a single scene- but for the entire vibe how much would you dismiss before you changed things up?

Depends entirely on where that comes from. Members? Sure.. we listen to that for sure. Former members? Of course. People who've never been members? Not at all.

People who bitch about how Jake is old and shouldn't be on camera? Zilch.

But as has been said "It is just Porn".

No no.. porn isn't "just" anything. Porn is the first way most of us find our way to the gay world. It was my salvation.

 

[Pharaoh]

I'm gonna say this because I too find him boring BUT

Gay for pay sells and sells big(I should know because I have several sites myself)

Gay guys doing gay sex is not nearly as appealing to the paying masses than gay for pay and I ahte to admit it but it is not Cody's fault...The gay buying public have an image in their minds that straight guys are irresistible and forbidden fruit and so the whole gay 4 pay industry was formed from that image.

If people didn't pay for subscriptions to his site then his site doesn't exist. If you are going to condemn someone then condemn the gay buying public.

Pharaoh

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

I guess the good news is that Gay men having Gay sex is selling a lot better lately. People are asking to see more gay men on sites, the gay guys are getting more fan mail and studios like Raging Stallion and Titan that use predominantly gay men are running strong.

So maybe that "Gay For Pay" thing is fading a bit.

Hey, the market changes a lot.

 

[Hellax24]

Depends entirely on where that comes from. Members? Sure.. we listen to that for sure. Former members? Of course. People who've never been members? Not at all.

People who bitch about how Jake is old and shouldn't be on camera? Zilch.

That's funny i started a thread asking why Jake never filmed any Bi scenes or 3 ways on hs SG4GE site and you never responded. I was a Member of Cocksuremen and Sg4GE at the time. I am not a member of either at this point. I even brought up in the Bo dean thread that (Even Though Hawt) his performance and the continual usage of him was getting a bit stale. No response so i doubt your statement of listening to members and non-members.


CXXX

 

[willsboy84]

That is the interview to which I was referring. Which was about a year ago if I recall. I knew you had done the interview and I think you better than anyone know he is just in it for the money. Which is fine. He has no intention of ever doing more with a guy.

He shows himself to be an arrogant ass, when he says the last thing he would do would be to suck a dick. Yet, he is willing to let his male partners perform an act on him that he thinks is repulsive. Nice. I think it would be humilating to whoever would have to suck his cock in those scenes. You are performing a sex act on someone who you know thinks less of you because of it.

He says these guys are often better than the girls. Well then open you fucking eyes, maybe jerk them off, something to show some thanks for the service. Or is it to humilating for the straight guy to even touch another penis? I know he has done it before - once with Tommy D I think but not recently.

He says he wouldn't suck a dick but how is that worse than licking a girl's asshole? If you are that hung up sexually that you can't get past even touching another man then why are you doing it?

He closes his eyes and thinks of some skanky porn chick or as is often seen in his videos he has a dvd player playing straight porn. I know that is common but if he doesn't even care enough to keep it off screen then it just further shows his contempt for the man who is going to do all the work for probally half the pay.

He knows that by having a guy suck his dick once a month he gets to fuck two girls. I've seen the "BI" videos and lets get real - he has the girl set on his face and forgets the guy is even in the room then he bangs her while the guy stands behind him jerking off out of his field of vision or he stands in from of the girl and gets blown by her while Cody looks away. After all this time you can't even watch another guy? Really?

All in all, why should he change what he is doing? He is disgusted by the thought of even touching another guy but us silly gays will just keep throwing cash at him and giving him club appearances that should go to people who actually at least like us.

I don't care what his personal sexual preference is but if he can't at least pretend to be interested in his partner instead getting through it like it is a root canal then maybe he should take some acting lessons from those girls he is banging. I'm sure at least some of them aren't that happy to be with him either.

Of all the gay for pay performers he is the only one currently working that reads like he is doing the "gay" guy a favor in every scene.

Maybe if he at least addressed his hang ups and explained them in his blog he wouldn't come off as someone who doesn't care what his paying fans have to say.

I know I subscribed a year ago but didn't renew because I felt that I had payed someone money to be disgusted by me. Any appeal he had from the Tommy D site was quickly lost when his disdain began to show and I couldn't even get aroused by men I generally find hot because I felt like they were having to work to hard for someone who didn't even deserve it.

from everything you just said, it sounds like you should direct your anger towards the models who "lower" themselves to work with him. just like Cody, they're in it to get paid. they HAVE to notice his lack of enthusiasm for guy/guy scenes, but it doesn't stop them from trying to earn a buck, same as Cody. if it's such an insult to gay males, what does that say about the guys who continue to work with him? doesn't really seem fair to hate on him for how he makes his money, without hating the people he's making money from. it's not as if he's taking advantage of anyone, or FORCING people to keep paying for his sites. it's not exactly a secret what he's all about, but people keep paying? that's on them, and what right do any of us have to decide what someone else is into, and how they spend their money?

it does bother me a bit that he doesn't really get into the gay scenes, but i'm not gonna hate him for it. what's the point, when it's simpler to just NOT watch--or more importantly PAY for something that i don't enjoy?

 

[Rex]

Your assessment in this is a bit weak. If people don't know by now that gay for pay and straight guys doing gay porn is never going to be about anything other than only going as far as they are comfortable with, then you haven't been paying enough attention.

Corbin Fisher has been getting the same negative feedback in the update thread for that site for years, yet the site thrives and the people that give that feedback haven't cancelled their memberships. They knew what they were getting into when they subscribed.

Marketing is about some level of deception. Any product on the market has some slight untruth in its advertising materials. Be smart enough to know that if you used 12 other products that say they are different, and weren't, chances are the new one that comes around and says it is different isn't. Straight guys doing gay porn is a product that won't ever change. There will be a handful of guys that were simply using the sites as an outlet to figure out if they are gay, straight or bisexual and there are some that simply enjoy the money they make and nothing more. It's a business. If you're not a satisfied consumer, move on. There are a million other porn sites with not straight guys doing great videos. I am a member of several of them.

It's a fantasy world, porn. Live in the fantasy and don't forget that real life never ever works like the movies. Porn or otherwise.

What?? Well that was a shocker...

 

[UWSMike]

Wow. Whole lot of anger here.
A few points, maybe to calm you all down.

1. The fantasy that Cody Cummings plays into is a common gay fantasy: "I've just seduced the hot straight guy down the block and he's letting me suck his cock." That's the scenario he plays out in all his videos: the other actor is "hanging out" with him, they get horny and the gay actor seduces Cody. Not sure why that's a problem or even self-hating. Gay guy gets what he wants. Not your fantasy? Mine either, but some dudes get off on it. It's sort of an empowering fantasy: I'm so fucking sexy and irresistable that even a straight guy will submit to me.

And I'm sure there are, as Jaysun notes, guys who get off on both sides of that equation: imagining being the straight guy seduced by the supersexy gay guy or imagining themselves being the supersexy gay guy doing the seducing.

2. There is no Cody Cummings. There's an actor named Jim Jones or Tommy Smith who plays a character called Cody Cummings in videos. The actor may or may not have a similar personality in real life, but regardless, he is playing a role. Ditto the actor playing the role of the gay seducer.

Hope that helps.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

That's funny i started a thread asking why Jake never filmed any Bi scenes or 3 ways on hs SG4GE site and you never responded. I was a Member of Cocksuremen and Sg4GE at the time. I am not a member of either at this point. I even brought up in the Bo dean thread that (Even Though Hawt) his performance and the continual usage of him was getting a bit stale. No response so i doubt your statement of listening to members and non-members.


CXXX

Oh, sorry.. Missed that. Send me a PM if you start a thread and want me to respond.

As far as your post about Bo being over-used... I printed that post out and brought it up in the next production meeting. Jake read all the posts in that thread. Just because I don't post doesn't mean we don't hear you and doesn't mean we don't respond.

As far as a bi scene goes.. we've tried to figure out where the best venue for that would be.. SG4GE or Cocksure Men. We're open to the idea, but finding the right place to put it is tough. Another suggestion that's been floated out is a Bisexual and three-way site. But running four sites... that's a HUGE under-taking and I'm not sure we can do it.

We're in the stages of planning a Gang Bang on SG4GE but we're still trying to work out the particulars... how many guys, how many girls, if there's any interaction between the guys, where to shoot it, how to shoot it.... I don't like walking in and just starting to shoot without knowing how I want the finished product to look.