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Chick-fil-a Can Bite Me

bankside said:
There's a strange sentiment in this thread that draws a comparison between the right of anti-gay bigots to operate a business without objection, and the right of, say, gay people to operate a business on the same terms.

I think that's nonsense, based on the false premise that all opinions are somehow magically equally valid and worthy of respect.

Of course, I want the anti-gay business to fail, and I want the owners and the board to be driven out of business, and I want them to lose their shirts in the process, and I want the investors to get pennies on the dollar when the whole thing goes into receivership. I don't value malignant ideas and their supporters as being equal to constructive ideas and their fair-minded supporters. Thus I oppose any business model that is compatible with homophobia and support any business model that is open to equality.

A mayor need no more make space in the public square for a homophobic business than he would for an anti-semitic business. At the very least he should point out that the right to protest and picket will be vigorously protected on public lands immediately adjacent to any such worthless business.

Ultimately this issue reduces to the idea that "homophobia" and "equality" are not "just two different perspectives on which reasonable people happen to disagree."
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That isn't what anyone is saying at all. Homophobia is not an equal perspective. But that does not change the fact that those people do have a right to open a restaurant if they follow the law in applying for licenses, etc. There are no legal grounds upon which they can deny a company from opening a restaurant based solely on their views on gay marriage.

You are also making the false assumption that where these businesses operate is public space. In most cases it is not. It is property owned by a private company. If re-zoning is involved, you might have a point.
 
TX-Beau said:
Yeah, if the haters tried to open a Klan Fried Coon in a shopping center near you, what WOULD people say?
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If they only served white people you might have a point. But since Chick-Fil-A has not declared their restaurants 'straight only' zones, your point falls flat on its face.
 
Uh un, if they were sending money to the Klan NO MATTER WHO THEY SERVED, the result would be the same.
 
As I posted elsewhere, it bothers me a lot that the media coverage of the CfA issue seems to ENTIRELY be about their stance toward gay marriage, even when it gets into the topic of mayors/cities trying to ban CfA within their cities. Sticking to this issue only will never get very much traction, because there are many people who also disagree with gay marriage, and especially so in many parts of the U. S. where CfA has the most outlets. The media doesn't mention at all that the company is heavily involved in donating to organizations who hate anybody who happens to be gay, and the marriage thing is a side issue, if anything.

CfA doing their best to make sure that gay people do not ever have ANY kind of equal rights, and are hated as much as is humanly possible, is far more dangerous than trying to block the progress of gay marriage.
 
JB3 said:
If they only served white people you might have a point. But since Chick-Fil-A has not declared their restaurants 'straight only' zones, your point falls flat on its face.
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And what if they went back to something similar to a quaint and time-honoured American custom that older JUB members would remember growing up with, and had one cashier for whites, and one for "coloured." People could sit separately too.

Because that's the point that applies here; they protest that they welcome customers on an equal basis, but that claim is frankly just bullshit.
 
One aspect of interview that didn't get any coverage was the guy's opinion about having just one spouse (no divorce).

Opinions?
 
They just ran a Chick Fil-a story on the local news regarding Menino's letter in which the Mayor acknowledges that HE is aware that he has no legal way to stop the chain from coming here, he just wants them to know he would not welcome them (in hopes they won't want to come here.)

The were some pertinent questions on here about the legality of stopping the chain from opening and apparently Mayor Menino chose to voice his support while knowing he couldn't actually stop them.

On the other side, the story also mentions former Bruins something or other Tim "Douchebag" Thomas making a point of supporting the chain.
 
^ Tim T has no grace ...............

wouldn't join his teammates for a White House/Obama visit

heard he might take next year off - sit it out

I think he's "off"
 
Jack Springer said:
One aspect of interview that didn't get any coverage was the guy's opinion about having just one spouse (no divorce).

Opinions?
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Nope. None. Maybe you should pop over to the "Just Us Divorcees" forum and see what they're saying over there! ;)

(heheh)
 
Watching MSNBC this AM, what else?, they showed part of this video. Ya gotta watch it!



The long and short of it-- on 8/1 (the day Mike Huckabee wants Chick-Fil-A supporters to patronize the restaurant) go to Chick-Fil-A. Ask for a large water and nothing else. See if they adhere to Proverbs 25:21 and give it to you. If they do, yay! You took a few cents from their hate fund! If they don't, well...I guess they're proving their principals aren't so "biblical."
If you're in, pass the word on, please. #Proverbs2521
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White Eagle said:
Watching MSNBC this AM, what else?, they showed part of this video. Ya gotta watch it!


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Well, I guess I finally woke up, here it is 11AM CST. I miss the entire part of the text. It is Bradley Hartman saying that you go to the place and ask for a glass of water. Therefore citing Proverbs 25.21.

Proverbs 25:21
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink:
 
^^^^

Actually, I thought it would happen first with Kuli carrying on a conversation with himself .. but looks like White Eagle beat him to it.
 
TX-Beau said:
Uh un, if they were sending money to the Klan NO MATTER WHO THEY SERVED, the result would be the same.
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You miss the part where there is no legal standing whatsoever for a city to deny the application to build based on that. As far as the city is concerned, once the money reaches the hands of the company, and they pay their taxes, whatever happens after that is none of their business.
 
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