The Original Gay Porn Community - Free Gay Movies and Photos, Gay Porn Site Reviews and Adult Gay Forums

  • Welcome To Just Us Boys - The World's Largest Gay Message Board Community

    In order to comply with recent US Supreme Court rulings regarding adult content, we will be making changes in the future to require that you log into your account to view adult content on the site.
    If you do not have an account, please register.
    REGISTER HERE - 100% FREE / We Will Never Sell Your Info

    To register, turn off your VPN; you can re-enable the VPN after registration. You must maintain an active email address on your account: disposable email addresses cannot be used to register.

Climate Science biting liberals in the ass again.

Benvolio said:
Nm
The democratic power comes from the least educated, least successful of our society: the "poor", the immigrants, the welfare class, the unemployable, the criminal class.
Click to expand...

You mean the people who have firsthand castiron evidence from their day to day reality that "just give way more money to the rich people and cut their taxes and it will all trickle down to you" is a total crock?
 
Benvolio said:
Nm

The democratic crafts power cakes from the least educated, least successful of our society: the "poor", the immigration grants, the welfare class, the unemployable, the criminal class.
Click to expand...

I prefer Ben's original text. I know I loves to craft me some power cakes out of immigrants and criminals.
 
So Ben found one crazy to write an article that climate change is not occurring. Hell, even the pope has been convinced and yet there are crazies on the right who continue to deny reality. I believe the last I checked, 97/100 scientists (you know, people who actually think and connect facts; unlike those in the Republican ticket today) have agreed climate change is occurring and that it is human-made. http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

I realize NASA is "government controlled" and probably doing mind-melds that will affect your far-fetched and crazy hypothesis.

As to "conservatives" being "fascists" or "socialists".....which party wants to do more to limit individual rights than the other? I don't think it's the Dems trying to get rid of gay rights, women's rights, planned parenthood, choice, voting rights, etc. I think those belong to you and the crazies in the clown car. I realize that you hate to do actual research and look at facts, but you might want to see what administrations actually lower government spending (and deficits) and which have increased. As for jobs? I loved the response in the Republican debate given by one of the crazies to that answer:

BAKER: In seven years under President Obama, the U.S. has added an average of 107,000 jobs a month. Under President Clinton, the economy added about 240,000 jobs a month. Under George W. Bush, it was only 13,000 a month. If you win the nomination, you'll probably be facing a Democrat named Clinton. How are you going to respond to the claim that Democratic presidents are better at creating jobs than Republicans?

FIORINA: [Looks like a deer in headlights.] Well, first of all, I must say as I think about that question, I think about a woman I met the other day. [blah blah blah, playing for time, hoping everyone will forget the question.] Yes, problems have gotten much worse under Democrats.
 
Benvolio said:
Nm
The democratic power comes from the least educated, least successful of our society: the "poor", the immigrants, the welfare class, the unemployable, the criminal class.
Click to expand...


If what you say is true -- and I have reasons to doubt that it is -- shouldn't your party be out there welcoming immigrants?

After all, your average immigrant has a much better chance of having one or more college degrees than your average American. Wouldn't have more intelligent people tend to tilt things more in your party's favour, and take care of things in those areas where voter suppression, the discarding of votes, hacked voting machines, rigged elections, and gerrymandering haven't already done the job for you?
 
LittleDove said:
If what you say is true -- and I have reasons to doubt that it is -- shouldn't your party be out there welcoming immigrants?

After all, your average immigrant has a much better chance of having one or more college degrees than your average American. Wouldn't have more intelligent people tend to tilt things more in your party's favour, and take care of things in those areas where voter suppression, the discarding of votes, hacked voting machines, rigged elections, and gerrymandering haven't already done the job for you?
Click to expand...

No, immigrants historically vote democrat, responding to its anti American, socialist pandering of ever increasing taxes on Americans to provide freebies to immigrants. They come for the superior opportunities created by free enterprise while voting to end it. To answer your question, no, Republicans should not put winning above the public good; we can never out pander the democrats.
Democrats do not have the high ground on election rigging. They control the election boards in Chicago and have not allowed a Republican mayor since the thirties. They elected JFK by voting fraud in Illinois.
Requiring IDs is the only way to prevent the democrats from nullifying Republican votes with illegal voters, double voting, voting by the dead etc.
 
Benvolio said:
No. I never do receive rational responses, merely rudness such as the above. When did you ever, ever, ever say anything of substance other than boilerplate from the liberal media? You racist lie is repulsive.
Click to expand...

As opposed to someone who latches on to an opinion from an obscure publication as proof positive against an overwhelming body of evidence from credible sources.
 
Benvolio said:
No, immigrants historically vote democrat, responding to its anti American, socialist pandering of ever increasing taxes on Americans to provide freebies to immigrants. They come for the superior opportunities created by free enterprise while voting to end it. To answer your question, no, Republicans should not put winning above the public good; we can never out pander the democrats.
Democrats do not have the high ground on election rigging. They control the election boards in Chicago and have not allowed a Republican mayor since the thirties. They elected JFK by voting fraud in Illinois.
Requiring IDs is the only way to prevent the democrats from nullifying Republican votes with illegal voters, double voting, voting by the dead etc.
Click to expand...

There was and continues to be vote rigging attempts from both sides. A competitive sport. Whether it changed the outcome is highly debatable.
Can't believe there's still anyone out there who defends Nixon's legitimacy.
Surely history could have done without him as president.
 
Benvolio said:
Liberals/marxists/socialists/communists love the global warming theory because it supports total government control of everything, especially free enterprise. But the science is still debatable. There is increasing evidence that the world is entering a long period of global cooling and the alleged green house effect may be beneficial.http://www.nationmultimedia.com/opinion/Cold-sun-rising-30272650.html
Click to expand...

Science is, by definition, not just debatable, but a debate.

On the topic of global warming, only one of many possible theoretical explanations has overwhelmingly won that contest of ideas:
Humans are causing global warming due to the release of pollutants that trap additional sunlight in the atmosphere. Anthropogenic climate disruption is real.

Of course, new data might result in revised theories. But one article that happens to give you a climate boner will not suffice to unseat the winning position in a debate that scientists have already carried through to a reliable conclusion. In fact, your post admits humans are responsible for climate change, just that it is a good thing.

Benvolio, I assume you will be advising the Republic Party that they have been wrong to deny that we've been responsible for climate change. You know, now that you're a convert to the scientific method.

And I'm sure you agree science is definitely needed. If we happened to start messing with the climate just when it started to cool anyway, what a good bit of luck that we can do this! Humans could save the planet from turning into a global iceberg!

In fact, if the science shows the earth is cooling of its own accord, solar power would be the enemy! We would need government regulations to stop people from recklessly spreading solar! There need to be inspections! Standards! This year, maybe people could have 1000 W solar panels on their roof, but to save the environment they would need to cut back to 600W next year, and 400W the year after that. We need to burn coal if we're going to save the environment!!!! So, new government red tape to stop the madness of solar, and maybe even federal subsidies to ensure that fossil fuels get burnt. It's the only way.

Now just prove it. Now that you're a scientist, that's how science works.
 
I have previously said there are at least four separate questions. 1. Is the climate changing long term? 2. Is human activity causing it? 3. Can we change the activity enough to prevent the change? 4. Can we prevent it from being an ideology justifying totalitarianism? There is serious doubt about all four. It is clear that population growth is a big factor in the human activity involved. No one seems to be adressing that concern. Worse, while our government, i.e. Obama is trying to commit us to draconian reduction in emissions, his inconsistent priority is a massive, indiscriminate, increase in population, for the clear reason that he sees that it will doom the Republican party, leaving us with a one party, Chicago style dictatorship. World wide, population growth makes it clear that will not be able to curb emissions. The invasions of Europe, for instance. China has reversed its one child policy.
We are faced with a future in which the climate will do what it will do, whatever that may be, but we will be a poor overcrowded, divisive , socialist dictatorship. It is difficult to see anything which will avert thst future.
 
Benvolio said:
I have previously said there are at least four separate questions. 1. Is the climate changing long term? 2. Is human activity causing it? 3. Can we change the activity enough to prevent the change? 4. Can we prevent it from being an ideology justifying totalitarianism? There is serious doubt about all four. It is clear that population growth is a big factor in the human activity involved. No one seems to be adressing that concern. Worse, while our government, i.e. Obama is trying to commit us to draconian reduction in emissions, his inconsistent priority is a massive, indiscriminate, increase in population, for the clear reason that he sees that it will doom the Republican party, leaving us with a one party, Chicago style dictatorship. World wide, population growth makes it clear that will not be able to curb emissions. The invasions of Europe, for instance. China has reversed its one child policy.
We are faced with a future in which the climate will do what it will do, whatever that may be, but we will be a poor overcrowded, divisive , socialist dictatorship. It is difficult to see anything which will avert thst future.
Click to expand...

You've confused me now, because you just said we were having a definite, positive impact, by warming the planet in the face of a long-term cool-down.

So it seems to me you have answered all 4 of your questions:
1) you state there is actually a long-term change: cooling
2) you state that human activity not only warms the planet, but it is effective enough to help fight the cooling
3) you state it is helpful to try preventing the change with human-induced warming
4) how could saving the planet from global cooling ever be totalitarian?

Clearly you must want government to ensure we fight global cooling, by burning fossil fuels, which is effective in warming the earth. Do you want the earth to freeze??? The climate is being made worse by all these UN types who want us to use renewables, now that we know scientifically that the earth is actually cooling.

Government has to go after these "cooling terrorists," and their Solar Panels of Mass Destruction. For Coal, and Freedom!!!
 
Kabluey said:
As opposed to someone who latches on to an opinion from an obscure publication as proof positive against an overwhelming body of evidence from credible sources.
Click to expand...

American right-wingers find themselves increasingly in exactly that position in order to defend any of their positions-- when they feel that their positions need any defending whatsoever. (After all, if they are seriously questioned on anything they "wish" to believe, it's clearly moderator partisanship-- Fox News would never have treated unfounded assertions this way!) And fall back increasingly on the same old tired mantra that every credible source, study or science out there is simply "liberally biased."

Hence the bumper sticker "The Truth has a Liberal Bias."
 
bankside said:
You've confused me now, because you just said we were having a definite, positive impact, by warming the planet in the face of a long-term cool-down.

So it seems to me you have answered all 4 of your questions:
1) you state there is actually a long-term change: cooling
2) you state that human activity not only warms the planet, but it is effective enough to help fight the cooling
3) you state it is helpful to try preventing the change with human-induced warming
4) how could saving the planet from global cooling ever be totalitarian?

Clearly you must want government to ensure we fight global cooling, by burning fossil fuels, which is effective in warming the earth. Do you want the earth to freeze??? The climate is being made worse by all these UN types who want us to use renewables, now that we know scientifically that the earth is actually cooling.

Government has to go after these "cooling terrorists," and their Solar Panels of Mass Destruction. For Coal, and Freedom!!!
Click to expand...

Nonsense. Did you miss where I said there is serious doubt about it all? The climate will do what it will do.
 
Did you miss where you said:
Benvolio said:
There is increasing evidence that the world is entering a long period of global cooling and the alleged green house effect may be beneficial.
Click to expand...

Sounded like you were convinced: global cooling is a real problem we should defend ourselves against by burning fossil fuels to stoke the greenhouse effect.

That's what your science shows!

Do you doubt the science of global cooling?
 
jbown329 said:
I'll take Science for $200 Alex.

Climate Change Deemed Growing Security Threat by Military Researchers
New York Times

You May Be Denying Climate Change, But The US Military Isn't
Business Insider

Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet: Evidence
http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
http://climate.nasa.gov/
Click to expand...

I think that the US Navy just doesn't know how good they have it since we averted Ben's global cooling. There are so many places in the Arctic now where submarines can safely surface where the ice should not be thin enough to do so. Course that also confuses and traps whales and kills polar bears and similar but ehhhh.
 
I almost hate to mention this, but there is a legitimate climate change study out there which supports climate cooling. From [Benvolio]'s POV, I suppose the major problem with it is that they attribute the cause to human activity. The other problem, I suppose, is that it's localised ... very localised, in the vicinity of Palm Springs.

Yes, temperatures in Palm Springs have been dropping ... and the cause turns out to be human intervention, in the form of irrigation of golf courses.

Now, this cannot of course happen, because man has no effect on the environment. The Thames, because Man has no effect on the environment, should have remained as polluted if not more so than before, after they stopped dumping raw sewage into it. Likewise, the skies over London, because Man has no effect on the environment, should have remained as polluted, as cloudy, and as foggy as they were before the discouragement of open coal fires.

So maybe that's a solution the Republican's could embrace. After all, if it worked in one locale, it seems like it should work in others. Golf-course the nation ... border to border, sea to sea greens, sand-traps, and bunkers, and irrigate the bejesus out of the whole place. And just think what a boon it would be, employment-wise. After all, all of those boys from Rentboy are still out of work, or aren't working as much as they previously were. Employ them as caddies! And I suppose the slight, twinky ones who don't look strong enough to heft the bags with all those irons and clubs can be put to work manning -- if that's not something of an oxymoron -- the ball-washers.
 
otters said:
Nonsense! It's the liberals/marxists/socialists/communists who kill whales and polar bears.
Click to expand...

Exactly. Those evil liberals/marixists/socialists/communists hate the Coca-Cola corporation so very much!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top