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Sin City Cock-Sucker!!
OMG!
Today, 25 years ago, my Partner, Ron and I met!
The planets all aligned properly, the moon was full: my life as I know it started on this day, 25 years ago: October 17, 1979!~
I was in the military and had recently relocated to Tyndall Air Force Base in Panama City, Florida.
I don't know if any of you know about the military and moving; but we do it often and it's a "big" deal to get it all done.....find a new home, rent or buy it, etc....and in my case, I am alone and have to do it ALL by myself....no wife! Oh yeah, btw! I am Gay and the military doesn't know (thank God) so there will be NO little "missus" to help me; but it would be good to have a Partner to share the work load with me!!!
Well, I had just found the home of my dreams in the area, quite near the base in a small "burb" called Callaway....so the commute to the base would be short and sweet each day!!!
Anyway, I had been at the realtor and Mortgage Company finalizing my loan and getting all my papers together and I was tired and very hungry...I had read about this nice Chinese Restaurant located near Panama City Beach....can't remember the name; but decided to check it out........
I arrived at the restaurant about 6 PM and the hostess asked me if I wanted to order from the regular menu or try their "new" Mongolian B-B-Q that was "stir-fried" right in front of my eyes after I picked out the vegetables, sauces and meat .....the Chinese Chef would cook it up for me........I decided on the BBQ, it sounded good with some nice steamed rice; not heavy and good for me besides!!! lol
The restaurant was not crowded at all, only like 10 couples and myself and one other gentleman.......which I noticed right away, by the way! lol
I went through the assorted vegetable/salad bar and selected the vegetables and sauces and meat I wanted in my BBQ, gave it to the Chef and went to select a table.
Well, I saw the gentleman all by himself, so I decided to sit near his table....
He was looking at the menu when I seated myself. The waitress came to him and asked him like she did me, "do you want to order from the menu or try the Mongolian BBQ"? He also decided to try the BBQ and went to select his ingredients...
I ordered hot tea and a cup of Won Ton soup to start my dinner.
The gentleman returned after giving his ingredients to the Chef and also ordered hot tea and a soup, I noticed.....
Each time we/he came and went we acknowledged each other with a smile and a nod....
Well, my (Gaydar) was working and I was almost positive that this nice looking man was/is Gay!!! and oh, btw, I was interested.
Let me give you his description: about 6 ft tall, he weighed around 175 pounds I would say with dark brown/to black hair with some greying in his temples, nice smile, slim build and the most sparkling blue eyes you've ever seen..........he was also dressed in a nice coat/tie......looking the part of a business man coming from work to get dinner.
I had just finished my soup and the waitress brought me my Mongolian BBQ the chef had finished stir frying and at that point my "unknow" admirer acknowledged my BBQ by saying, "I hope my BBQ is as good as yours looks too"! I smiled and said, I am sure it will be and yes, it smells really good too.
The stranger asked me if I was dining alone and I said yes. I asked him if he was also dining alone and he said yes too...Then, the stranger asked me if I would like to join him since we both were alone and it was much nicer having someone to talk to during dinner and sharing the nice experience!!!
I was totally pleased to say the least and told him, I would love to join him.
I asked the waitress if it was ok to join him and she helped me move my food and utensils, tea pot and all over to his table next door....
He introduced himself as Ron X and I introduced myself as Roger X....He said he was working with Chrysler Corporation and was in Panama City on business and was from Jacksonville, Florida and would be in town until Friday (tomorrow, this was thursday night).
I gave him my vitals, military, new to Panama City, just got new home, moving, etc....!
We chatted, ate our meal (I can't even remember if it was good or not to tell you the truth..........I was smitten by this man) and really had a nice time together.
Well, the meal was finished. He had dessert and I refused and had an after dinner plum brandy instead.....with coffee.
The meal and everything was over and the pregnant pause now happened.....what to do now? How can I see this man, Ron, more, again, or better yet, leave with him???
Well, Ron settled that. He told me he was staying on Panama City Beach at the Holiday Inn, right on the beach. He asked me if I would like to come back to his room and maybe have a drink in the bar there....?
I accepted, of course.
Well, we went to his hotel, parked and went to the bar. We both ordered a cocktail and continued to chat and learn more about one another....
I was impressed and I hoped he was too....
We talked, talked and talked until the bar was ready to close...
I told Ron, I best be going and he said yes, he had go to and he had to get up tomorrow morning and go to the local Chrysler dealership to finish his business before leaving to go back home to Jacksonville later tomorrow.
Well, I walked him to his room, he opened his door, we went inside and soon after closing the door, Ron reached to shake my hand and told me just how much he enjoyed dinner with me and how much he enjoyed talking with me, etc....well, he just kept holding my hand, rubbing my arm with his other hand, causing me to become hot and bothered and totally erect with his actions......then, he pulled me in to his chest and slowly so sweetly leaned into me, looking me directly in the eyes, gave me the sweetest, softest, tenderest kiss one could ever receive.......his kiss, was tender but continued and he gently used his tongue to open my lips and licked my lower lip and then he gently bit my lower lip and gave me the longest, most intense kiss I've yet to receive......
I was left breathless!
Damn! I was left dazed! Dizzy with anticipation! My cock was hard as a rock and I could feel him too as he pressed his body into mine!!!
When we could speak, Ron told me he had never met anyone that affected him so intensely, so quickly upon first meeting them!
I concurred!!
He told me he wanted to see me again......he wanted to know if he could call me and opened his wallet and gave me his card...I took his card and told him I would call him instead Saturday when he returned to Jacksonville.
Ron, leaned forward again and initiated another tender, soft, wet kiss!!!
God, this man was capturing my soul, my heart, my love and we had only just met!!!
Ron told me he was sorry the night was ending; but we both had commitments the next morning and we had to call it an evening...
With that, I told him how much I enjoyed having dinner with him and I was looking forward to talking to him again Saturday...
I then, said good night and opened the door and left.
I walked back to my car in a daze.......opened the car door, entered and just sat there pondering my handsome Ron!!!!
I finally gathered my senses, started the car and drove home, remembering the kiss, the embrace, the feel of Ron against my body!
I could hardly wait till I could talk to Ron again come Saturday....................
October 17, 2004
Today, 25 years ago, my Partner, Ron and I met!
The planets all aligned properly, the moon was full: my life as I know it started on this day, 25 years ago: October 17, 1979!~
I was in the military and had recently relocated to Tyndall Air Force Base in Panama City, Florida.
I don't know if any of you know about the military and moving; but we do it often and it's a "big" deal to get it all done.....find a new home, rent or buy it, etc....and in my case, I am alone and have to do it ALL by myself....no wife! Oh yeah, btw! I am Gay and the military doesn't know (thank God) so there will be NO little "missus" to help me; but it would be good to have a Partner to share the work load with me!!!
Well, I had just found the home of my dreams in the area, quite near the base in a small "burb" called Callaway....so the commute to the base would be short and sweet each day!!!
Anyway, I had been at the realtor and Mortgage Company finalizing my loan and getting all my papers together and I was tired and very hungry...I had read about this nice Chinese Restaurant located near Panama City Beach....can't remember the name; but decided to check it out........
I arrived at the restaurant about 6 PM and the hostess asked me if I wanted to order from the regular menu or try their "new" Mongolian B-B-Q that was "stir-fried" right in front of my eyes after I picked out the vegetables, sauces and meat .....the Chinese Chef would cook it up for me........I decided on the BBQ, it sounded good with some nice steamed rice; not heavy and good for me besides!!! lol
The restaurant was not crowded at all, only like 10 couples and myself and one other gentleman.......which I noticed right away, by the way! lol
I went through the assorted vegetable/salad bar and selected the vegetables and sauces and meat I wanted in my BBQ, gave it to the Chef and went to select a table.
Well, I saw the gentleman all by himself, so I decided to sit near his table....
He was looking at the menu when I seated myself. The waitress came to him and asked him like she did me, "do you want to order from the menu or try the Mongolian BBQ"? He also decided to try the BBQ and went to select his ingredients...
I ordered hot tea and a cup of Won Ton soup to start my dinner.
The gentleman returned after giving his ingredients to the Chef and also ordered hot tea and a soup, I noticed.....
Each time we/he came and went we acknowledged each other with a smile and a nod....
Well, my (Gaydar) was working and I was almost positive that this nice looking man was/is Gay!!! and oh, btw, I was interested.
Let me give you his description: about 6 ft tall, he weighed around 175 pounds I would say with dark brown/to black hair with some greying in his temples, nice smile, slim build and the most sparkling blue eyes you've ever seen..........he was also dressed in a nice coat/tie......looking the part of a business man coming from work to get dinner.
I had just finished my soup and the waitress brought me my Mongolian BBQ the chef had finished stir frying and at that point my "unknow" admirer acknowledged my BBQ by saying, "I hope my BBQ is as good as yours looks too"! I smiled and said, I am sure it will be and yes, it smells really good too.
The stranger asked me if I was dining alone and I said yes. I asked him if he was also dining alone and he said yes too...Then, the stranger asked me if I would like to join him since we both were alone and it was much nicer having someone to talk to during dinner and sharing the nice experience!!!
I was totally pleased to say the least and told him, I would love to join him.
I asked the waitress if it was ok to join him and she helped me move my food and utensils, tea pot and all over to his table next door....
He introduced himself as Ron X and I introduced myself as Roger X....He said he was working with Chrysler Corporation and was in Panama City on business and was from Jacksonville, Florida and would be in town until Friday (tomorrow, this was thursday night).
I gave him my vitals, military, new to Panama City, just got new home, moving, etc....!
We chatted, ate our meal (I can't even remember if it was good or not to tell you the truth..........I was smitten by this man) and really had a nice time together.
Well, the meal was finished. He had dessert and I refused and had an after dinner plum brandy instead.....with coffee.
The meal and everything was over and the pregnant pause now happened.....what to do now? How can I see this man, Ron, more, again, or better yet, leave with him???
Well, Ron settled that. He told me he was staying on Panama City Beach at the Holiday Inn, right on the beach. He asked me if I would like to come back to his room and maybe have a drink in the bar there....?
I accepted, of course.
Well, we went to his hotel, parked and went to the bar. We both ordered a cocktail and continued to chat and learn more about one another....
I was impressed and I hoped he was too....
We talked, talked and talked until the bar was ready to close...
I told Ron, I best be going and he said yes, he had go to and he had to get up tomorrow morning and go to the local Chrysler dealership to finish his business before leaving to go back home to Jacksonville later tomorrow.
Well, I walked him to his room, he opened his door, we went inside and soon after closing the door, Ron reached to shake my hand and told me just how much he enjoyed dinner with me and how much he enjoyed talking with me, etc....well, he just kept holding my hand, rubbing my arm with his other hand, causing me to become hot and bothered and totally erect with his actions......then, he pulled me in to his chest and slowly so sweetly leaned into me, looking me directly in the eyes, gave me the sweetest, softest, tenderest kiss one could ever receive.......his kiss, was tender but continued and he gently used his tongue to open my lips and licked my lower lip and then he gently bit my lower lip and gave me the longest, most intense kiss I've yet to receive......
I was left breathless!
Damn! I was left dazed! Dizzy with anticipation! My cock was hard as a rock and I could feel him too as he pressed his body into mine!!!
When we could speak, Ron told me he had never met anyone that affected him so intensely, so quickly upon first meeting them!
I concurred!!
He told me he wanted to see me again......he wanted to know if he could call me and opened his wallet and gave me his card...I took his card and told him I would call him instead Saturday when he returned to Jacksonville.
Ron, leaned forward again and initiated another tender, soft, wet kiss!!!
God, this man was capturing my soul, my heart, my love and we had only just met!!!
Ron told me he was sorry the night was ending; but we both had commitments the next morning and we had to call it an evening...
With that, I told him how much I enjoyed having dinner with him and I was looking forward to talking to him again Saturday...
I then, said good night and opened the door and left.
I walked back to my car in a daze.......opened the car door, entered and just sat there pondering my handsome Ron!!!!
I finally gathered my senses, started the car and drove home, remembering the kiss, the embrace, the feel of Ron against my body!
I could hardly wait till I could talk to Ron again come Saturday....................
October 17, 2004
cocktales
Sin City Cock-Sucker!!
OMG!
What a beautiful day.........25 years and we are more in love today than ever!
I know it sounds so cliche'; but it is true......our love has never suffered from being stale or lacking for emotion....
Dunno, I guess sex is NOT the most important element in our relationship......we totally enjoy being with one another.
I cannot even think about being alone..I think we even think alike now after all these years together....
**I hope our relationship does not make some of you sad...
Let me explain.
I know we are genuinely lucky to have such a good relationship! Believe me, we both realize this is truly an amazing partnership....
We don't often "plug" our relationship 'cause we've actually had people say some nasty things about our coupling! Yeah, go figure....
Some have said, "they cannot believe our being together is so "goody-goody-syurpy-sweet"!
We were/are appalled when someones' saying such nasty remarks; but then we guess it's maybe jealousy???
We've never "taunted" anyone about us having this lengthy marriage or anything. We also do not take it for granted either...we work at what we have every day and are especially quick to show one another our devotion and love to make sure "it" endures!!
..........the evening at Le Cirque was unbelievable! Check out the website in Van's thread he made for Ron and I!! The place is incredible and the food and serice is beyone comprehension!
Las Vegas truly has world renowed restaurants!!
Wow, we left there after a bottle of wine and a truly 5 course, complete gastronomic experience..........wine and all!
Whew!
One last note and then I'll quit gushing about our "anniversary day"!
If I live to be 100, I will never forget today and the past 25 years and how much that man means to me who sleeps next to me each and every night, eats across the table with me every day and shares my lifes' hopes and fears every day!!!
Again, thanks to all you JUBBERS for your best wishes!!!
Cock
What a beautiful day.........25 years and we are more in love today than ever!
I know it sounds so cliche'; but it is true......our love has never suffered from being stale or lacking for emotion....
Dunno, I guess sex is NOT the most important element in our relationship......we totally enjoy being with one another.
I cannot even think about being alone..I think we even think alike now after all these years together....
**I hope our relationship does not make some of you sad...
Let me explain.
I know we are genuinely lucky to have such a good relationship! Believe me, we both realize this is truly an amazing partnership....
We don't often "plug" our relationship 'cause we've actually had people say some nasty things about our coupling! Yeah, go figure....
Some have said, "they cannot believe our being together is so "goody-goody-syurpy-sweet"!
We were/are appalled when someones' saying such nasty remarks; but then we guess it's maybe jealousy???
We've never "taunted" anyone about us having this lengthy marriage or anything. We also do not take it for granted either...we work at what we have every day and are especially quick to show one another our devotion and love to make sure "it" endures!!
..........the evening at Le Cirque was unbelievable! Check out the website in Van's thread he made for Ron and I!! The place is incredible and the food and serice is beyone comprehension!
Las Vegas truly has world renowed restaurants!!
Wow, we left there after a bottle of wine and a truly 5 course, complete gastronomic experience..........wine and all!
Whew!
One last note and then I'll quit gushing about our "anniversary day"!
If I live to be 100, I will never forget today and the past 25 years and how much that man means to me who sleeps next to me each and every night, eats across the table with me every day and shares my lifes' hopes and fears every day!!!
Again, thanks to all you JUBBERS for your best wishes!!!
Cock
cocktales
Sin City Cock-Sucker!!
I don't know about the rest of you; but last week on JUB was NOT too pleasant.
We lost a few people who did not or could not want to be on JUB anymore....
I know, I was shocked too; but sometimes for some unexplained reasons people DO have to leave our world!
I, like many of you, PMd these guys to offer my help to them and tried to convince them NOT to go; but stick around and let us help them work on their problems...to no avail.
Well, today when I opened the JUB Message Boards: Ouila', there were not one; but two "oldtimers" who left in the past; but re-joined us today!!!
I am so f &*%)( g happy I cannot tell you!
I dunno; but those people leaving last week left a foul taste in my mouth and I just could not get them outta my mind, worrying about them and their departure and what would become of them.....now!
Well, Sleeping Dragon and Frank (can't remember his tagline)but he is a retired fireman and it's something to do with that and he's from NY so its like FDNY or somethin....K? Well they returned from being away from JUB!~!!!!!
Oh happy day!!!
They seem fine and they brought sunshine back into today and this week at JUB!
We thank you guys for showing up at the right time to help us deal with our loss of others on JUB........you know it's like a death in the family when we lose people....for any reason! So, while we are/were dealing with this loss, now we can better deal with this happy feeling of having our "old friends" back into the foal!
Am I the only one who has trouble dealing with the loss of people when they leave us???? Hello out there? lol
Well, enough for tonight/today.
Cock
We lost a few people who did not or could not want to be on JUB anymore....
I know, I was shocked too; but sometimes for some unexplained reasons people DO have to leave our world!
I, like many of you, PMd these guys to offer my help to them and tried to convince them NOT to go; but stick around and let us help them work on their problems...to no avail.
Well, today when I opened the JUB Message Boards: Ouila', there were not one; but two "oldtimers" who left in the past; but re-joined us today!!!
I am so f &*%)( g happy I cannot tell you!
I dunno; but those people leaving last week left a foul taste in my mouth and I just could not get them outta my mind, worrying about them and their departure and what would become of them.....now!
Well, Sleeping Dragon and Frank (can't remember his tagline)but he is a retired fireman and it's something to do with that and he's from NY so its like FDNY or somethin....K? Well they returned from being away from JUB!~!!!!!
Oh happy day!!!
They seem fine and they brought sunshine back into today and this week at JUB!
We thank you guys for showing up at the right time to help us deal with our loss of others on JUB........you know it's like a death in the family when we lose people....for any reason! So, while we are/were dealing with this loss, now we can better deal with this happy feeling of having our "old friends" back into the foal!
Am I the only one who has trouble dealing with the loss of people when they leave us???? Hello out there? lol
Well, enough for tonight/today.
Cock
cocktales
Sin City Cock-Sucker!!
I hope by now our JUBBERS have calmed down and realized the world is not at an end, JUBs porn existence is NOT threatened by the changes we had to make.
The many porn producers realized that the sharing of their photo content occurred on the Internet and that on the whole it represents a net benefit to them, as it reinforces brand loyalty and builds interest in their video productions to limit our use of their property. We must realize the law gives sole control of this content to its copyright owner, and anyone using it/them without permission is in violation and can and will be sued!
I hope we all realize now that JD and Seth and attornies did all they can and could do to allow us usage, to no avail.
We will just continue as we did a few months earlier and use the format and not have to worry with others. I don't think our membership will be affected at all.
We will survive this as we have all other problems........we still have the best free and most affordable porn on the web with The Boy's Club at JUB!
I challenge all of you to stay calm and remain upbeat and respect the copyright law because if we were on the other side we would want our property secured.
I know it seems it's just like the music industry taking things away from us and it is!
I still think our Community Message Boards are the BEST on the WWW and we offer Gay and Bisexual men comfort and help dealing with their sexuality like no other place around!!!
If we continue to help just one more Gay or Bisexual person who's having difficulty dealing with his sexuality, our worth is realized!
I hope the rest of you feel this way and will help to keep our Gay Community in tact and allow us to remain a viable alternative here on JUB!
Cock
The many porn producers realized that the sharing of their photo content occurred on the Internet and that on the whole it represents a net benefit to them, as it reinforces brand loyalty and builds interest in their video productions to limit our use of their property. We must realize the law gives sole control of this content to its copyright owner, and anyone using it/them without permission is in violation and can and will be sued!
I hope we all realize now that JD and Seth and attornies did all they can and could do to allow us usage, to no avail.
We will just continue as we did a few months earlier and use the format and not have to worry with others. I don't think our membership will be affected at all.
We will survive this as we have all other problems........we still have the best free and most affordable porn on the web with The Boy's Club at JUB!
I challenge all of you to stay calm and remain upbeat and respect the copyright law because if we were on the other side we would want our property secured.
I know it seems it's just like the music industry taking things away from us and it is!
I still think our Community Message Boards are the BEST on the WWW and we offer Gay and Bisexual men comfort and help dealing with their sexuality like no other place around!!!
If we continue to help just one more Gay or Bisexual person who's having difficulty dealing with his sexuality, our worth is realized!
I hope the rest of you feel this way and will help to keep our Gay Community in tact and allow us to remain a viable alternative here on JUB!
Cock
cocktales
Sin City Cock-Sucker!!
You know when I first came out West from the South, I thought I had all but landed on the surface of the moon. It looked just as barren, dry and un-appetizing as I figured the moon would look! I had an idea that if someone wanted to make the whole moon landing a hoax that they would have used the terrain in and around Las Vegas and the whole Death Valley to make that movie!!!
Today, Sunday, Ron and I decided to take a day trip to Death Valley...the whole trip takes you West toward Parhump and into the DV National Park and can take all day to make it.
The uncompromising name, Death Valley, gives little sign that this area is, first and foremost, a place of contrast. One of the world's hottest sections of desert is situated only a few miles from forested and often snow-covered mountain peaks of Las Vegas. You know the hottest it has ever been in North America was right here, 134 degrees F...!!!
What may appear to some observers to be barren, monotonous wasteland reveals itself to the inquiring eye to be a landscape full of remarkably diverse forms and colors.
The terrain, which looks too harsh for life, is in fact the natural habitat of a wide variety of well-adapted plants and animals, including fish and birds. And man, who seems very out of place in this demanding wilderness, has in reality inhabited the valley continuously for nearly 10,000 years.
Death Valley does attract the eccentric, and sometimes more than the eccentric. The Panamint Valley, just to the west of Death Valley and also part of the park, is still remembered as the hideout of the Manson Family in the 1960s.
Illegal airstrips used by drug smugglers are still scattered throughout the area, and outlaw rave parties take place on the Bureau of Land Management land surrounding Death Valley.
A large-scale methamphetamine lab was discovered by a ranger in one of the park's canyons a few years ago; although the operation was shut down, the situation was considered so dangerous that the ranger now works in another part of the country under an assumed name.
Rangers also keep an eye out for "scrappers," shady characters who steal scrap metal from the Fort Irwin Army Training Center to the south and smuggle it back to Los Angeles through the park. "I'd hate for a visitor to run into one of those guys!"
You know they think it's their right to steal the metal and think nothing of just shooting you and leaving your body in the desert never to be found!
These stories help to explain the Humvee, the rifles, and that bulletproof vest the Park Rangers use in the field. The larger park has made it even more likely that a solo ranger will encounter a risky situation.
"It's more dangerous for them now. There's more drugs, there's more people with guns." "They have to protect themselves. They have to act in a warm fuzzy way, but they also have to think about how to protect themselves."
But some think the rangers are far from warm and fuzzy, and say concerns about personal safety are no excuse for bad behavior. Words like "aggressive" and "militaristic" pop up in more than one conversation with locals about the Park Service. Several tell firsthand stories of run-ins with zealous rangers. I guess they just want to do a good job to protect the Park.
Anyway, we ended up near Furnace Creek on the California side of Death Valley and had lunch at a small restaurant there and decided to head back home to Las Vegas.
The whole trip makes you realize just how big the Mojave Desert is and how sparsely populated the West really is.
It's also hard to believe that this desert is so close to a city of almost 1.5 million people in Las Vegas..........so close to humanity; yet so far away once you leave the major roads.
If you ever get a chance to check out the Mojave Desert, I recommend you do it in the Spring when the flowers are blooming, yes, it's hard to believe but the desert comes alive around early March.........so beautiful...
If you cannot make it during the Spring, take this same trip I just talked about in the Fall of the year. I do NOT recommend you do it in the Summer months unless you love the heat! You can really get into trouble with the heat if you decide to tour during the hottest part of the year!
Now back home to Las Vegas, the Oasis in the Desert!! lol
Cock
Today, Sunday, Ron and I decided to take a day trip to Death Valley...the whole trip takes you West toward Parhump and into the DV National Park and can take all day to make it.
The uncompromising name, Death Valley, gives little sign that this area is, first and foremost, a place of contrast. One of the world's hottest sections of desert is situated only a few miles from forested and often snow-covered mountain peaks of Las Vegas. You know the hottest it has ever been in North America was right here, 134 degrees F...!!!
What may appear to some observers to be barren, monotonous wasteland reveals itself to the inquiring eye to be a landscape full of remarkably diverse forms and colors.
The terrain, which looks too harsh for life, is in fact the natural habitat of a wide variety of well-adapted plants and animals, including fish and birds. And man, who seems very out of place in this demanding wilderness, has in reality inhabited the valley continuously for nearly 10,000 years.
Death Valley does attract the eccentric, and sometimes more than the eccentric. The Panamint Valley, just to the west of Death Valley and also part of the park, is still remembered as the hideout of the Manson Family in the 1960s.
Illegal airstrips used by drug smugglers are still scattered throughout the area, and outlaw rave parties take place on the Bureau of Land Management land surrounding Death Valley.
A large-scale methamphetamine lab was discovered by a ranger in one of the park's canyons a few years ago; although the operation was shut down, the situation was considered so dangerous that the ranger now works in another part of the country under an assumed name.
Rangers also keep an eye out for "scrappers," shady characters who steal scrap metal from the Fort Irwin Army Training Center to the south and smuggle it back to Los Angeles through the park. "I'd hate for a visitor to run into one of those guys!"
You know they think it's their right to steal the metal and think nothing of just shooting you and leaving your body in the desert never to be found!
These stories help to explain the Humvee, the rifles, and that bulletproof vest the Park Rangers use in the field. The larger park has made it even more likely that a solo ranger will encounter a risky situation.
"It's more dangerous for them now. There's more drugs, there's more people with guns." "They have to protect themselves. They have to act in a warm fuzzy way, but they also have to think about how to protect themselves."
But some think the rangers are far from warm and fuzzy, and say concerns about personal safety are no excuse for bad behavior. Words like "aggressive" and "militaristic" pop up in more than one conversation with locals about the Park Service. Several tell firsthand stories of run-ins with zealous rangers. I guess they just want to do a good job to protect the Park.
Anyway, we ended up near Furnace Creek on the California side of Death Valley and had lunch at a small restaurant there and decided to head back home to Las Vegas.
The whole trip makes you realize just how big the Mojave Desert is and how sparsely populated the West really is.
It's also hard to believe that this desert is so close to a city of almost 1.5 million people in Las Vegas..........so close to humanity; yet so far away once you leave the major roads.
If you ever get a chance to check out the Mojave Desert, I recommend you do it in the Spring when the flowers are blooming, yes, it's hard to believe but the desert comes alive around early March.........so beautiful...
If you cannot make it during the Spring, take this same trip I just talked about in the Fall of the year. I do NOT recommend you do it in the Summer months unless you love the heat! You can really get into trouble with the heat if you decide to tour during the hottest part of the year!
Now back home to Las Vegas, the Oasis in the Desert!! lol
Cock
cocktales
Sin City Cock-Sucker!!
......that is if you live long enough!!
“Older guys? Forget it,” Jamey, a 24-year-old movie store manager in Detroit, told his friend. “I get bored out of my skull if one of them walks up to me and tries to start a conversation, even if he isn’t hitting on me, which he probably is.”
Probably not an illusion. I assume most older people would welcome, think about being able to have sex with a younger partner. And the majority of boys and girls just shudder at the idea. I can’t project from my own experience. When I was young I liked younger and am probably lucky that I didn’t find myself in prison. I grew out of it. Sure, there’s a pang sometimes when I see a young lovely. Knowing that even if I were devastatingly handsome the mere fact of chronology would keep him out of my reach. Really I’m mostly happy to be able to look. Beauty is beauty: flowers, music, fragrances, good English prose. I guess we all go through that phase! Right?
The preference for youth is probably rooted in out evolutionary past as much as anything else. Breeders we may not be but we are the product of our ancestors. You can’t disassociate youth from vitality and a vital mate was the one most likely to produce offspring.
It is easy to blame it all on pop culture. A sinister force as it were beaming the ephemera of the moment into our brains. If you can’t setup your own force field then you are helplessly in the grip of many things. Blaming your cultural environment is just away of escaping responsibility.
“All those younger guys … think older guys like me just want to get them all into bed.” “Please. What an utter waste of time would that be? They could never keep up, and good lord, what the hell would we even talk about?”
That could be sour grapes. But if you want more than a few hours diversion it is perhaps more dead on that many younger people can realize. Call it seasoning or texture but there are qualities that the passage of time - in and only in a worthwhile person - that can deepen and become richer.
Sometimes when someone tries to engage me in conversation I try to slip loose. If they are older I assume they are just the captives of accumulated prejudices. Younger folks I feel should come back and talk about it a few years in the future. By which time they’ll probably be bound in the shell of their own prejudices. But it is kinder to think someone naïve than an old fool.
At the same time, more than half of the people feel unappreciated by gay people under age 30, he says.
Um, how should they ‘appreciate’ us (me?)? They have bars to go dancing at and a whole series of love affairs to tear themselves apart over. I’m not looking to be appreciated. Mostly all I’ve wanted for the human race to do is shut up and step aside.
… and 42 percent said that gay social services aren’t doing enough for people over 60 …
That sounds sad. Though I’m not sure what services they are talking about. If older HIV+ men are being neglected due to their age then it is evil. Maybe I’m unimaginative but what other specifically gay social services are they looking for.
The men who are less fearful about aging are those who don’t want or expect a relationship.
There we have it. Mostly because I was a young gay man who liked younger gay guys I often thought that when I hit thirty I’d be dead, maybe should make myself dead. What was on my silly mind? Partly sex seemed far more important than it does now (not that sex has become a minor matter, trust me). Poor young people desperately want to be In Love; in love with Love.
As much as I love to be in love I came to realize that I’m too quirky for most people to regard romantically. Maybe for a day or a week but I’m too alive to my inner life and that always seemed to quickly dim my charms. I was lucky to find my Partner early in life and have never gone through this phase! I do, however, see it all the time!! .........and I don't like it! WTF can you do though?
I’m not sure if the ageist divide between younger and older gay men is much more than the usual divide between generations. You grow up listening to different music. Your quotidian priorities aren’t the same.
Younger queers may feel that you’d like to get into their pants (and maybe you would, if only in an absentminded way). Older queer men may feel bored by youth’s chatter about celebrities he’s barely heard of. So what.
In recent years I’ve encountered heterosexual couples that’ve formed romantic attachments sometime around the time they started collecting social security. If straight people can do it gay people can as well.
If some pretty twink is rude to you, don’t fret. Time and biochemistry will get him. You may not be around to see his thinning hair, false teeth, his forlorn glances at the youths he used to be like.
Or maybe he’ll wise up. No reason to begrudge his current intolerance. You yourself was probably once a foolish young thing.
Know what got me on this theme?
Bradlee and Jory-----read the themes of their blogs!
It fuckin drives me crazy the attitudes younger Gay men have; but everyone "does" have that right to feel the way they want..........
......I just wish, say in an ideal world......young would NOT despise being around older people. Yeah, the argument goes, one day they will experience what we are going through now; but by that time they've forgotten the way they treated Older Gay Men, Queens, Queers, Faggots or whatever they're calling us today!
Men over 40 are very sexy folks! By this time, we're getting more financinally responsible, know what we want, what we like and if we've taken care of our bodies, we still look pretty damn good!
So.........twinks, bois, or whatever you're called this week......
Please, show some tolerance. No you don't "have" to; but it's nice to be nice isn't it?
lol
Sorry for the rant folks.........when you get this old you've earned the right to express yourself in this manner too! ha ha
Cock
“Older guys? Forget it,” Jamey, a 24-year-old movie store manager in Detroit, told his friend. “I get bored out of my skull if one of them walks up to me and tries to start a conversation, even if he isn’t hitting on me, which he probably is.”
Probably not an illusion. I assume most older people would welcome, think about being able to have sex with a younger partner. And the majority of boys and girls just shudder at the idea. I can’t project from my own experience. When I was young I liked younger and am probably lucky that I didn’t find myself in prison. I grew out of it. Sure, there’s a pang sometimes when I see a young lovely. Knowing that even if I were devastatingly handsome the mere fact of chronology would keep him out of my reach. Really I’m mostly happy to be able to look. Beauty is beauty: flowers, music, fragrances, good English prose. I guess we all go through that phase! Right?
The preference for youth is probably rooted in out evolutionary past as much as anything else. Breeders we may not be but we are the product of our ancestors. You can’t disassociate youth from vitality and a vital mate was the one most likely to produce offspring.
It is easy to blame it all on pop culture. A sinister force as it were beaming the ephemera of the moment into our brains. If you can’t setup your own force field then you are helplessly in the grip of many things. Blaming your cultural environment is just away of escaping responsibility.
“All those younger guys … think older guys like me just want to get them all into bed.” “Please. What an utter waste of time would that be? They could never keep up, and good lord, what the hell would we even talk about?”
That could be sour grapes. But if you want more than a few hours diversion it is perhaps more dead on that many younger people can realize. Call it seasoning or texture but there are qualities that the passage of time - in and only in a worthwhile person - that can deepen and become richer.
Sometimes when someone tries to engage me in conversation I try to slip loose. If they are older I assume they are just the captives of accumulated prejudices. Younger folks I feel should come back and talk about it a few years in the future. By which time they’ll probably be bound in the shell of their own prejudices. But it is kinder to think someone naïve than an old fool.
At the same time, more than half of the people feel unappreciated by gay people under age 30, he says.
Um, how should they ‘appreciate’ us (me?)? They have bars to go dancing at and a whole series of love affairs to tear themselves apart over. I’m not looking to be appreciated. Mostly all I’ve wanted for the human race to do is shut up and step aside.
… and 42 percent said that gay social services aren’t doing enough for people over 60 …
That sounds sad. Though I’m not sure what services they are talking about. If older HIV+ men are being neglected due to their age then it is evil. Maybe I’m unimaginative but what other specifically gay social services are they looking for.
The men who are less fearful about aging are those who don’t want or expect a relationship.
There we have it. Mostly because I was a young gay man who liked younger gay guys I often thought that when I hit thirty I’d be dead, maybe should make myself dead. What was on my silly mind? Partly sex seemed far more important than it does now (not that sex has become a minor matter, trust me). Poor young people desperately want to be In Love; in love with Love.
As much as I love to be in love I came to realize that I’m too quirky for most people to regard romantically. Maybe for a day or a week but I’m too alive to my inner life and that always seemed to quickly dim my charms. I was lucky to find my Partner early in life and have never gone through this phase! I do, however, see it all the time!! .........and I don't like it! WTF can you do though?
I’m not sure if the ageist divide between younger and older gay men is much more than the usual divide between generations. You grow up listening to different music. Your quotidian priorities aren’t the same.
Younger queers may feel that you’d like to get into their pants (and maybe you would, if only in an absentminded way). Older queer men may feel bored by youth’s chatter about celebrities he’s barely heard of. So what.
In recent years I’ve encountered heterosexual couples that’ve formed romantic attachments sometime around the time they started collecting social security. If straight people can do it gay people can as well.
If some pretty twink is rude to you, don’t fret. Time and biochemistry will get him. You may not be around to see his thinning hair, false teeth, his forlorn glances at the youths he used to be like.
Or maybe he’ll wise up. No reason to begrudge his current intolerance. You yourself was probably once a foolish young thing.
Know what got me on this theme?
Bradlee and Jory-----read the themes of their blogs!
It fuckin drives me crazy the attitudes younger Gay men have; but everyone "does" have that right to feel the way they want..........
......I just wish, say in an ideal world......young would NOT despise being around older people. Yeah, the argument goes, one day they will experience what we are going through now; but by that time they've forgotten the way they treated Older Gay Men, Queens, Queers, Faggots or whatever they're calling us today!
Men over 40 are very sexy folks! By this time, we're getting more financinally responsible, know what we want, what we like and if we've taken care of our bodies, we still look pretty damn good!
So.........twinks, bois, or whatever you're called this week......
Please, show some tolerance. No you don't "have" to; but it's nice to be nice isn't it?
lol
Sorry for the rant folks.........when you get this old you've earned the right to express yourself in this manner too! ha ha
Cock
cocktales
Sin City Cock-Sucker!!
I guess this is the "thing" these days, early voting before the general election or big election day!
Voting machines are placed in high trafficked areas like Malls, Gyms, Colleges, etc....
It's nice to be able to get this important task done while on the go.......
Nevada is the first state to go all "touch-screen" voting machines that offer a printed copy of what the voter, voted! No, the voter doesn't get to keep it, the election bureau keeps it for tracking purposes and for recount purposes too!
No hanging Chads here!
It's so simple and quick to vote with these machines and I guess they are kinda expensive; but totally portable to take anywhere!!!
It is amazing to me just how many people are interested in this general election!
I guess the usually apathetic American voter is finally getting the message......wake up and take notice and oh by the way.........your vote does count......just ask Mr. Al Gore who lost by less than 500 votes cast among millions!!!!
I just hope no body makes any real boo boo's that might make me want to change my mind about voting for them.......too late now! lol
Hey, don't forget to vote! Early if possible; but definitely 2 Nov, General Election Day!
Cock!
Voting machines are placed in high trafficked areas like Malls, Gyms, Colleges, etc....
It's nice to be able to get this important task done while on the go.......
Nevada is the first state to go all "touch-screen" voting machines that offer a printed copy of what the voter, voted! No, the voter doesn't get to keep it, the election bureau keeps it for tracking purposes and for recount purposes too!
No hanging Chads here!
It's so simple and quick to vote with these machines and I guess they are kinda expensive; but totally portable to take anywhere!!!
It is amazing to me just how many people are interested in this general election!
I guess the usually apathetic American voter is finally getting the message......wake up and take notice and oh by the way.........your vote does count......just ask Mr. Al Gore who lost by less than 500 votes cast among millions!!!!
I just hope no body makes any real boo boo's that might make me want to change my mind about voting for them.......too late now! lol
Hey, don't forget to vote! Early if possible; but definitely 2 Nov, General Election Day!
Cock!
cocktales
Sin City Cock-Sucker!!
Let's face it.
As a holiday Thanksgiving is being phased out.
It will be a few more years before it's gone completely but it is indeed on the way out.
Christmas is like The Blob. It just keeps expanding year after year destroying any lesser holidays in its path.
In twenty years Thanksgiving will be a day like any other where most people just happen to eat turkey.
The Christmas season will begin right after Labor Day. Most homes will go through two or three Christmas trees before the actual day arrives.
I remember the days when there were rules about when you start decorating for Christmas. That would be the first day after Thanksgiving.
Thanksgiving is an important holiday so we want to show it the proper amount of respect. Besides, it just makes sense to let one holiday pass before preparing for the next one. Also, the idea of having an official start date of the Christmas season makes it a little more special.
Now we see stores (like Pier 1) putting out Christmas merchandise in the middle of September. I am not kidding. They actually had a corner of their store dedicated to Christmas merchandise in September! The Meadows Mall in Las Vegas already has their center court fully decorated with a little winter wonderland forest. This is the beginning of November! Albertsons is already stocking Christmas related candies and other crap already.
Personally, I think we need city ordinances forbidding the display of Christmas decorations and merchandise before the day after Thanksgiving. Both businesses and residences should be fined for jumping the gun and trying to cash in on Christmas before it's time. Likewise, people should be fined their leaving their Christmas lights up past January.
I am a bit dramatic; but don't you think all this is just a bit too commercialized?
I mean children don't even know the meanings behind the holidays they celebrate. Just give me the damn gifts and let it be done already! lol
Perhaps I am off center here........whatayou think?
Cock
As a holiday Thanksgiving is being phased out.
It will be a few more years before it's gone completely but it is indeed on the way out.
Christmas is like The Blob. It just keeps expanding year after year destroying any lesser holidays in its path.
In twenty years Thanksgiving will be a day like any other where most people just happen to eat turkey.
The Christmas season will begin right after Labor Day. Most homes will go through two or three Christmas trees before the actual day arrives.
I remember the days when there were rules about when you start decorating for Christmas. That would be the first day after Thanksgiving.
Thanksgiving is an important holiday so we want to show it the proper amount of respect. Besides, it just makes sense to let one holiday pass before preparing for the next one. Also, the idea of having an official start date of the Christmas season makes it a little more special.
Now we see stores (like Pier 1) putting out Christmas merchandise in the middle of September. I am not kidding. They actually had a corner of their store dedicated to Christmas merchandise in September! The Meadows Mall in Las Vegas already has their center court fully decorated with a little winter wonderland forest. This is the beginning of November! Albertsons is already stocking Christmas related candies and other crap already.
Personally, I think we need city ordinances forbidding the display of Christmas decorations and merchandise before the day after Thanksgiving. Both businesses and residences should be fined for jumping the gun and trying to cash in on Christmas before it's time. Likewise, people should be fined their leaving their Christmas lights up past January.
I am a bit dramatic; but don't you think all this is just a bit too commercialized?
I mean children don't even know the meanings behind the holidays they celebrate. Just give me the damn gifts and let it be done already! lol
Perhaps I am off center here........whatayou think?
Cock
cocktales
Sin City Cock-Sucker!!
Like the poor insect hopelessly drawn to one of those insidious bug zappers, thus describes my love/hate relationship with Wal-Mart.
My list of complaints against America's leading retailer is as long as the lines at the check-out counters. For reasons not yet fully understood, I still find myself strangely compelled to join the drones queuing up at Wally World.
Why is that?
My friends pondered that question last week. I listened as they shared their horror stories about shopping at our local Wal-Mart. Inexplicably, they continue to shop there. I heard about those painfully long lines at the "express" register. They all agreed this was their #1 grievance. "Never, ever stop at Wally World for just a gallon of milk or bottle of Tylenol," one stated. "Chances are you'll have time to consume the entire contents of both before the 18 people in front of you clear out." Evidently there's some unwritten rule that states only 4 of 20-something registers can be open at any given time. Never mind tracking down one of the managers to ask why they won't open more registers. You'll only lose your place in line.
Customer service? Now there's an oxymoron!
If, God forbid, you must return a purchase, look for the lines at the front of the store rivaling those of Space Mountain at Disney World. Sometimes that line winds through the Vision Department, the ladies restroom, the hair salon and back through the men's room. And just because you make it to the front of the line doesn't mean you're done. Miss Customer Service may have to take four calls before she can get to you.
Then again, we sympathize with the Wal-Mart employees. Hour after hour, they stand on their feet, ringing up thousands of items, dealing with hundreds of people - some friendly, some rude, some downright belligerent. It can't be easy. But we're pummeled with commercials portraying an environment of one big happy family working hard to accommodate each and every shopper and always with a warm smile. Sadly, that's not always the case. Often, these beleaguered cashiers are just plain rude.
So why do we keep shopping there? We're cheap! It's their ridiculously low prices that keep us coming back. Ever see that little yellow smiley-faced dude on TV that slashes prices to the delight of giddy customers?
I've had nightmares about that yellow floating head. But his price cuts evidently do the trick. Why pay $1.50 for that bottle of shampoo when you can get it for 79 cents at Wal-Mart? Why pay $450 for that television when you can buy it for $250? It's all about the savings.
"SHOW ME THE MONEY!"
I'm sure Sam Walton was a great guy.
I have to admit it would be fascinating to sit down for a cup of coffee and chat with the old guy if he was still among us. (Scratch the image of a cozy visit in comfy chairs at Starbucks. Picture this billionaire sipping the steamy brew of generic coffee from a styrofoam cup in a vinyl booth at a Wal-Mart snack bar. Ah, the ambience of it all.) I'd like to ask him what his vision was when he first opened that little store in Rogers, Arkansas back in 1962. To be honest, I have a personal bone to pick that completely colors my feelings toward his company. Several years ago, my parents felt the crunch of the unrelenting Wal-Mart steamroller. Their mom-and-pop company survived, but they've never forgotten the damage inflicted by Wal-Mart's ability to undercut the competition. Mention Wally World around my dad and he'll pin your ears back. I guarantee it.
Yet, in spite of it all, we still shop there (with the exception of my parents). With great trepidation, we don our most comfortable shoes and resign ourselves to the loss of another afternoon. After taking the first available parking spot, we locate the building yonder in the distance, and join the throng of lemmings in their pilgrimage toward the front door. We dodge the renegade shopping carts which travel like loose canons through the crowded lot. Until at last, we enter the sacred corridors of the Promised Land of Frugality. Saving so much, we always overbuy until our carts overflow and our backs ache in protest. Finally, we approach those massive, long checkout lines. We read our favorite magazines cover to cover (twice) as we wait our turn. Hours after our initial arrival, laden with a trunk full of slippery blue plastic bags, we turn toward home.
It doesn't make sense to spend my money,
To shop at a store I abhor,
Like a finger to flame,
No one else to blame,
I keep shopping that maddening store!
But I cannot deny that the reason I buy
Are the discounts I don't want to miss,
Then I finally surmised
To my utter surprise,
I'm a Wal-Mart masochist!
AARRGGHH~!!!
Cock........
My list of complaints against America's leading retailer is as long as the lines at the check-out counters. For reasons not yet fully understood, I still find myself strangely compelled to join the drones queuing up at Wally World.
Why is that?
My friends pondered that question last week. I listened as they shared their horror stories about shopping at our local Wal-Mart. Inexplicably, they continue to shop there. I heard about those painfully long lines at the "express" register. They all agreed this was their #1 grievance. "Never, ever stop at Wally World for just a gallon of milk or bottle of Tylenol," one stated. "Chances are you'll have time to consume the entire contents of both before the 18 people in front of you clear out." Evidently there's some unwritten rule that states only 4 of 20-something registers can be open at any given time. Never mind tracking down one of the managers to ask why they won't open more registers. You'll only lose your place in line.
Customer service? Now there's an oxymoron!
If, God forbid, you must return a purchase, look for the lines at the front of the store rivaling those of Space Mountain at Disney World. Sometimes that line winds through the Vision Department, the ladies restroom, the hair salon and back through the men's room. And just because you make it to the front of the line doesn't mean you're done. Miss Customer Service may have to take four calls before she can get to you.
Then again, we sympathize with the Wal-Mart employees. Hour after hour, they stand on their feet, ringing up thousands of items, dealing with hundreds of people - some friendly, some rude, some downright belligerent. It can't be easy. But we're pummeled with commercials portraying an environment of one big happy family working hard to accommodate each and every shopper and always with a warm smile. Sadly, that's not always the case. Often, these beleaguered cashiers are just plain rude.
So why do we keep shopping there? We're cheap! It's their ridiculously low prices that keep us coming back. Ever see that little yellow smiley-faced dude on TV that slashes prices to the delight of giddy customers?
I've had nightmares about that yellow floating head. But his price cuts evidently do the trick. Why pay $1.50 for that bottle of shampoo when you can get it for 79 cents at Wal-Mart? Why pay $450 for that television when you can buy it for $250? It's all about the savings.
"SHOW ME THE MONEY!"
I'm sure Sam Walton was a great guy.
I have to admit it would be fascinating to sit down for a cup of coffee and chat with the old guy if he was still among us. (Scratch the image of a cozy visit in comfy chairs at Starbucks. Picture this billionaire sipping the steamy brew of generic coffee from a styrofoam cup in a vinyl booth at a Wal-Mart snack bar. Ah, the ambience of it all.) I'd like to ask him what his vision was when he first opened that little store in Rogers, Arkansas back in 1962. To be honest, I have a personal bone to pick that completely colors my feelings toward his company. Several years ago, my parents felt the crunch of the unrelenting Wal-Mart steamroller. Their mom-and-pop company survived, but they've never forgotten the damage inflicted by Wal-Mart's ability to undercut the competition. Mention Wally World around my dad and he'll pin your ears back. I guarantee it.
Yet, in spite of it all, we still shop there (with the exception of my parents). With great trepidation, we don our most comfortable shoes and resign ourselves to the loss of another afternoon. After taking the first available parking spot, we locate the building yonder in the distance, and join the throng of lemmings in their pilgrimage toward the front door. We dodge the renegade shopping carts which travel like loose canons through the crowded lot. Until at last, we enter the sacred corridors of the Promised Land of Frugality. Saving so much, we always overbuy until our carts overflow and our backs ache in protest. Finally, we approach those massive, long checkout lines. We read our favorite magazines cover to cover (twice) as we wait our turn. Hours after our initial arrival, laden with a trunk full of slippery blue plastic bags, we turn toward home.
It doesn't make sense to spend my money,
To shop at a store I abhor,
Like a finger to flame,
No one else to blame,
I keep shopping that maddening store!
But I cannot deny that the reason I buy
Are the discounts I don't want to miss,
Then I finally surmised
To my utter surprise,
I'm a Wal-Mart masochist!
AARRGGHH~!!!
Cock........
cocktales
Sin City Cock-Sucker!!
I wish I could tell you who was going to win this election, but I can't. The best I can tell, it's going to be fucking close, almost a toss-up. Anything could happen.
One thing that certainly won't happen is that we hold any sort of a national election for president here in the US.
We don't hold national elections, and never have; instead, we'll hold fifty different state elections, all at the same time.
Each state makes up its own rules, administers its own election process, tabulates its own results, and resolves internal disputes by itself, using their own procedures as interpreted by their own lawyers. Each of them are different; each is imperfect; each is uncomfortably open to widespread fraud, and each is likely to be staffed with several well-meaning but shockingly incompetent people, with a handful of honest-to-god scam artists thrown in.
There is simply no way for us to hold a close presidential election which is going to be clean enough for the current electorate to accept; unless one of the candidates can surprise us all with a decisive margin of victory, we will be entering election-dispute hell, and that we will be staying there for several months.
Once that happens, here are three things you can absolutely count on:
1) Bush stole the election. If he wins - or even if he just claims a win - there is zero chance, none, that charges of fraud will not loudly be raised. It's as good as pre-stolen. Furthermore, blacks will be disenfranchised by the millions, quite possibly even the billions. This story is already written and carefully rehearsed; whatever actually occurs is irrelevant. Every mainstream media outfit will trumpet this like it's news, and many people will believe it, too.
2) The final call is going to be made by Federal judges, probably under the Equal Protection doctrine. Equal Protection, like the Commerce Clause, is sort of an all-purpose method for the feds to assume authority for everything, even those things which are, constitutionally, explicitly under the control of the states. We will pay dearly for this down the road, because every fucking election for the rest of our lives is likely to be settled this way. After all, once an unelected, unaccountable branch of government assumes final authority over the election process itself, what could possibly go wrong?
Oh, yeah, and there might be only eight justices this time, instead of nine. Think about that one for a minute.
In the Supreme Court, ties default to the status quo - they means they uphold whatever the lower court decided. So, if this election gets decided by some harebrained district judge in the middle of butt-nowhere, he's likely to set precedent for the entire nation. I'll bet you the entire contents of my checking account that both sides have already considered this, and have already pre-selected which judges they will appeal to in each contested district. (After all, what could possibly go wrong)?
3) No matter who wins, the Democratic party is going to enter into a major crisis.
A Kerry loss will smell a lot like 1968. I honestly expect to see something of a return to the small-scale domestic terrorism we saw during that time; the Weather Underground, the SLA, the Black Panthers and other disaffected leftists wreaked a surprising amount of havoc for a while. It's quite possible they may have a few contemporaries, people who feel they had been excluded from the political process and who are ready to bomb and shoot their way back to the table. (Undoubtably, these folks will revert to the old 1968 playbook. They will be quickly realize that law enforcement is using the newer 2004 playbook, and they can discuss it amongst themselves while they are rotting in jail).
A Kerry win might be little better. Even if Kerry is a good guy - hardworking, honest, capable, and doing the best he can - his only real mandate now is simply to remove Bush, and it will be gone the moment he is sworn into office. He will be compelled to lead a nation of mostly hawks, and to do it with a Republican house and senate. The anti-war wing of his party has a serious disappointment waiting for them in 2005.
Kerry is not going to deliver huge tax hikes, or heath care for everyone, or a quick way out of Iraq; the legislature is simply not going to go along. He is not going to bring you Osama Bin Laden or reduce terrorism to a nuisance, either; he's just going to be a Freshmen president, facing a hostile legislature and a deeply divided, mostly pro-war electorate. The Republicans are going to pound the crap out of him at every opportunity, and he will have very little to use against them.
What's he going to do, threaten the Republicans with the seething, untapped power of the dovish middle?
Pro-war Democrats don't concern me; they are mostly sane, and they seem willing to put their nation first. The antiwar left is going to implode, and it's just a matter of how much damage they do on their way to history's dustbin.
Oh yeah, I just heard that, that small town in New Hampshire who vote right after mid-night on election day, can't remember the name;but they gave Bush a majority of their 30 something votes! I don't think that amount makes a trend? No?
Please, do stand in line if you have to, wait and be patient and at least use this right that many others around the world woud give anything to have....the ability to elect the person of their choice to represent them...democratically!
May the best man win: Bush or Kerry and may God Bless the United States of America!
Cock...
One thing that certainly won't happen is that we hold any sort of a national election for president here in the US.
We don't hold national elections, and never have; instead, we'll hold fifty different state elections, all at the same time.
Each state makes up its own rules, administers its own election process, tabulates its own results, and resolves internal disputes by itself, using their own procedures as interpreted by their own lawyers. Each of them are different; each is imperfect; each is uncomfortably open to widespread fraud, and each is likely to be staffed with several well-meaning but shockingly incompetent people, with a handful of honest-to-god scam artists thrown in.
There is simply no way for us to hold a close presidential election which is going to be clean enough for the current electorate to accept; unless one of the candidates can surprise us all with a decisive margin of victory, we will be entering election-dispute hell, and that we will be staying there for several months.
Once that happens, here are three things you can absolutely count on:
1) Bush stole the election. If he wins - or even if he just claims a win - there is zero chance, none, that charges of fraud will not loudly be raised. It's as good as pre-stolen. Furthermore, blacks will be disenfranchised by the millions, quite possibly even the billions. This story is already written and carefully rehearsed; whatever actually occurs is irrelevant. Every mainstream media outfit will trumpet this like it's news, and many people will believe it, too.
2) The final call is going to be made by Federal judges, probably under the Equal Protection doctrine. Equal Protection, like the Commerce Clause, is sort of an all-purpose method for the feds to assume authority for everything, even those things which are, constitutionally, explicitly under the control of the states. We will pay dearly for this down the road, because every fucking election for the rest of our lives is likely to be settled this way. After all, once an unelected, unaccountable branch of government assumes final authority over the election process itself, what could possibly go wrong?
Oh, yeah, and there might be only eight justices this time, instead of nine. Think about that one for a minute.
In the Supreme Court, ties default to the status quo - they means they uphold whatever the lower court decided. So, if this election gets decided by some harebrained district judge in the middle of butt-nowhere, he's likely to set precedent for the entire nation. I'll bet you the entire contents of my checking account that both sides have already considered this, and have already pre-selected which judges they will appeal to in each contested district. (After all, what could possibly go wrong)?
3) No matter who wins, the Democratic party is going to enter into a major crisis.
A Kerry loss will smell a lot like 1968. I honestly expect to see something of a return to the small-scale domestic terrorism we saw during that time; the Weather Underground, the SLA, the Black Panthers and other disaffected leftists wreaked a surprising amount of havoc for a while. It's quite possible they may have a few contemporaries, people who feel they had been excluded from the political process and who are ready to bomb and shoot their way back to the table. (Undoubtably, these folks will revert to the old 1968 playbook. They will be quickly realize that law enforcement is using the newer 2004 playbook, and they can discuss it amongst themselves while they are rotting in jail).
A Kerry win might be little better. Even if Kerry is a good guy - hardworking, honest, capable, and doing the best he can - his only real mandate now is simply to remove Bush, and it will be gone the moment he is sworn into office. He will be compelled to lead a nation of mostly hawks, and to do it with a Republican house and senate. The anti-war wing of his party has a serious disappointment waiting for them in 2005.
Kerry is not going to deliver huge tax hikes, or heath care for everyone, or a quick way out of Iraq; the legislature is simply not going to go along. He is not going to bring you Osama Bin Laden or reduce terrorism to a nuisance, either; he's just going to be a Freshmen president, facing a hostile legislature and a deeply divided, mostly pro-war electorate. The Republicans are going to pound the crap out of him at every opportunity, and he will have very little to use against them.
What's he going to do, threaten the Republicans with the seething, untapped power of the dovish middle?
Pro-war Democrats don't concern me; they are mostly sane, and they seem willing to put their nation first. The antiwar left is going to implode, and it's just a matter of how much damage they do on their way to history's dustbin.
Oh yeah, I just heard that, that small town in New Hampshire who vote right after mid-night on election day, can't remember the name;but they gave Bush a majority of their 30 something votes! I don't think that amount makes a trend? No?
Please, do stand in line if you have to, wait and be patient and at least use this right that many others around the world woud give anything to have....the ability to elect the person of their choice to represent them...democratically!
May the best man win: Bush or Kerry and may God Bless the United States of America!
Cock...
cocktales
Sin City Cock-Sucker!!
I guess? lol
Even though NBC News projected Wednesday morning that President Bush had won Ohio and Florida, two of the three battleground states that were key to the 2004 presidential election, Sen. John Kerry’s campaign was unwilling to concede, insisting that he would win Ohio’s 20 electoral votes when all the ballots were counted — which might not happen for almost two weeks!!! lol
“We’ve waited four years for this victory. We can wait one more night,” Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, the Democratic vice presidential candidate, told cheering supporters in Boston.
The Kerry campaign said it make no further statements until 10 a.m. ET.
According to NBC News’ projections, Kerry won big states with large numbers of electoral votes, but Bush piled up victories in smaller states to edge to 269 electoral votes, clinching at least a tie in the Electoral College. Kerry had won 211 electoral votes, 59 short of the magic number, 270, the network projected. Several states — including big prizes like Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin — were too close to call.
If the election were to end in a 269-to-269 tie, the presidency would be decided by the House of Representatives, where each state would get one vote. The Republicans currently control 30 state delegations, compared with 15 for the Democrats.
Also shaping up as a controversy, the quality of the exit-polling— all of which looked disastrous for Bush from late afternoon onwards. What happened there will be heavily scrutinized, and the question will be raised, did it replace the quick-calling of 2000 as the area in which the media (and the campaigns) could replace fact with extrapolation.
I think the media "has" to stay out of the elections or they(the elections) will continue to be fucked up! By "calling" the states or even passing along the exit polls comments, it can skew the election or like it did tonight, cause the election to NOT seem like it was supposed to have seemed!!!
I heard earlier, around Midnight Pacific timezone, that Senator Ted Kennedy was at the Kerry home in Boston (let's see, that puts him in the Kerry household at around 3 A.M.) You know he must have been giving Senator Kerry advice to "NOT" concede......YET!
I only hope this time, the election is not dragged out like in 2000 where we did not have a President for weeks.....we're better than that, aren't we?
We "must" put all this bad rhetoric behind us. We have to consider the good of the country and "bury the hatchet", let by-gones be by-gones and live happily with one another and improve our great country... for everyone concerned.....
Heal America! Heal!
Cock.....
PS: Stay tuned for more of the same!
Even though NBC News projected Wednesday morning that President Bush had won Ohio and Florida, two of the three battleground states that were key to the 2004 presidential election, Sen. John Kerry’s campaign was unwilling to concede, insisting that he would win Ohio’s 20 electoral votes when all the ballots were counted — which might not happen for almost two weeks!!! lol
“We’ve waited four years for this victory. We can wait one more night,” Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, the Democratic vice presidential candidate, told cheering supporters in Boston.
The Kerry campaign said it make no further statements until 10 a.m. ET.
According to NBC News’ projections, Kerry won big states with large numbers of electoral votes, but Bush piled up victories in smaller states to edge to 269 electoral votes, clinching at least a tie in the Electoral College. Kerry had won 211 electoral votes, 59 short of the magic number, 270, the network projected. Several states — including big prizes like Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin — were too close to call.
If the election were to end in a 269-to-269 tie, the presidency would be decided by the House of Representatives, where each state would get one vote. The Republicans currently control 30 state delegations, compared with 15 for the Democrats.
Also shaping up as a controversy, the quality of the exit-polling— all of which looked disastrous for Bush from late afternoon onwards. What happened there will be heavily scrutinized, and the question will be raised, did it replace the quick-calling of 2000 as the area in which the media (and the campaigns) could replace fact with extrapolation.
I think the media "has" to stay out of the elections or they(the elections) will continue to be fucked up! By "calling" the states or even passing along the exit polls comments, it can skew the election or like it did tonight, cause the election to NOT seem like it was supposed to have seemed!!!
I heard earlier, around Midnight Pacific timezone, that Senator Ted Kennedy was at the Kerry home in Boston (let's see, that puts him in the Kerry household at around 3 A.M.) You know he must have been giving Senator Kerry advice to "NOT" concede......YET!
I only hope this time, the election is not dragged out like in 2000 where we did not have a President for weeks.....we're better than that, aren't we?
We "must" put all this bad rhetoric behind us. We have to consider the good of the country and "bury the hatchet", let by-gones be by-gones and live happily with one another and improve our great country... for everyone concerned.....
Heal America! Heal!
Cock.....
PS: Stay tuned for more of the same!
cocktales
Sin City Cock-Sucker!!
This country is deeply divided, not along party lines, or liberal/conservative or red and blue.
The question becomes how do we overcome it.
No political party can exist that is so out of touch with so many. We certainly cannot co-opt the religious high ground. I think it's a media war first and foremost. It's positioning and repetition. Given yesterday's results, it is certainly not a battle of policy, results or party philosophy. The Democratic Party never understood the dynamics of this race has been clear. For a moment, Howard Dean did. Perhaps that's something to build on.
Who will lead the Democratic Party now?
The Republicans have the largest single majority in both houses, the largest since sometimes around the 1920s people are reporting!
W has been given a clear majority this time around. What will he do with it now? Can he keep the promises he made at his acceptance speech? I, for one, think he is extremely optomistic.......but who knows.
I just want this country to get back on track.
When the chips are down we show no red or blue states, we are all Americans. I think we should consider this time as when the chips are down......let's become all Americans and get our country back together again........before it's too late.
Cock
The question becomes how do we overcome it.
No political party can exist that is so out of touch with so many. We certainly cannot co-opt the religious high ground. I think it's a media war first and foremost. It's positioning and repetition. Given yesterday's results, it is certainly not a battle of policy, results or party philosophy. The Democratic Party never understood the dynamics of this race has been clear. For a moment, Howard Dean did. Perhaps that's something to build on.
Who will lead the Democratic Party now?
The Republicans have the largest single majority in both houses, the largest since sometimes around the 1920s people are reporting!
W has been given a clear majority this time around. What will he do with it now? Can he keep the promises he made at his acceptance speech? I, for one, think he is extremely optomistic.......but who knows.
I just want this country to get back on track.
When the chips are down we show no red or blue states, we are all Americans. I think we should consider this time as when the chips are down......let's become all Americans and get our country back together again........before it's too late.
Cock
cocktales
Sin City Cock-Sucker!!
Ron, my partner and I, as most of you already know have been together in total Gay bliss for now over 25 years.
We want most of all for our state and our country to legally recognize us as a married couple just like the couples that live on either side of us in Las Vegas!
Not gonna happen anytime soon, right?
Well, we've done the whole "Last Will and Testament" thingy, we've secured our insurance policies so that the surviving guy will be pretty well off, but can we do more?
We decided to look into Living Together Contracts.
Living together contracts -- what they are, whether you need one, and what to include if you do want to put some aspects of your commitment in writing.
A contract is no more than an agreement to do (or not to do) something. Marriage, for example, is a contractual relationship. Saying "I do" commits a couple to a well-established set of state laws and rules governing, among other things, the couple's property rights if they split up. Unlike married couples, however, couples who merely live together do not automatically agree to any contractual agreement when they start a relationship.
Of course it's a bit depressing to think about creating your own contract so you can break up amicably. But considering a contract and thinking about the issues involved can help you in many other ways: It will help you figure out what you intend -- and that, ideally, will lessen disagreement and misunderstandings even when things are going well.
We decided to look up the whole legal business end of this contract to see where we would stand:
Legal Rules Governing Living Together Contracts
Legal rules governing living together contracts have been made by courts and judges, and not by legislatures, for the most part. The leading court case is called Marvin v. Marvin, and involved the actor Lee Marvin and the woman he lived with, Michele Triola Marvin. (She used his last name even though they were not married.)
In the case, the California Supreme Court announced new legal principles involving the right of unmarried couples to make contracts. First, the court ruled that marital property laws do not apply to couples not legally married. Then, the court recognized that unmarried couples are here to stay. Finally, the court declared four contract principles:
Unmarried couples may make written contracts.
Unmarried couples may make oral contracts.
If a couple hasn't made a written or oral contract, the court may examine the couple's actions under the judicial microscope to decide whether an "implied" contract exists.
If a judge can't find an implied contract, she may presume that "the parties intend to deal fairly with each other" and find one lover indebted to the other by invoking well-established legal doctrines of equity and fairness.
Although Marvin applies only to California, other states have upheld the application of these principles to contracts made by gay and lesbian partners. Depending on the state, however, a court will follow different legal rules. Most states enforce contracts between gay and lesbian partners, although in some states only written contracts will be enforced. A very few states prohibit contracts between unmarried couples as fostering immorality, and a few haven't considered the question. In a state where sodomy is illegal, for example, a judge might refuse to enforce a contract on the ground that the underlying relationship is criminal. In fact, this is exactly what happened initially in a Georgia case, decided while sodomy was still a crime there. After a lesbian couple split up, one woman sued the other to enforce their written agreement. The trial judge refused because of their "illegal and immoral" relationship. The Supreme Court of Georgia reversed, saying that nothing in the agreement required them to engage in illegal activity. We discovered, after a long pain-staking search, that The State of Nevada "would" recognize these provisos.
When You Need a Living Together Contract
Obviously, you don't need a contract if you have no assets or are in a brief relationship. But in a long-term and serious relationship, whether you're basking in the glow of just having "joined forces" or you've been together 20 years, you should consider the legal consequences of how you live. If you are planning to mix assets or share expenses, please do everyone a big favor and put your agreement in writing, especially if significant money or property is involved. If you're both stone-broke NINKS (no income no kids) with no property and little prospect of getting any soon, you can still benefit by planning how you will handle money and property when it arrives. Also, you can put more emphasis on the practical issues of day-to-day living together which will do much to pave the road to the long-term happiness that lays ahead.
Why should you put your contract in writing? The sooner you agree on if and how to share your property, the less confusion and misery you are likely to face later. As the French legal scholar Beaumanoir wrote in Coutumes de Beauvaisis (1283): "For the memory of men slips and flows away, and the life of man is short, and that which isn't written is soon forgotten." **Bet you didn't know I could come up with this legaleeze stuff did ya Melody? lol
What to Include in a Living Together Contract
A living together contract can be comprehensive, covering every aspect of your relationship, or it can be specific, covering only your new house purchase. These contracts need not be like the fine-print monsters rammed down your throat when you buy insurance or a car. You can, and should, design your contract to say exactly what you both want, in words you both understand. A simple, comprehensible and functional document using common English is much better than one loaded with "heretofores" and "pursuants." No, I am NOT good at putting those politically correct words into the contract!!
If you want your living together contract to include the day-to-day details of your relationship, make two agreements. The first one should pertain only to property and finances. Then, if one of you ever sues the other in court, the property and finance terms should be the only ones a judge ever sees. Write up a second agreement if you wish about who will do the dishes, who will walk the dog, how many overnight guests you'll allow and whose art goes in the living room. A court won't -- and shouldn't be asked to -- enforce this kind of agreement. As a result, if you do just one agreement that includes the personal as well as financial clauses, a court might get distracted by the personal clauses, declare the contract illegal or frivolous, and refuse to enforce the more important financial clauses.
Property and Finances Clauses
Your living together agreement should cover all of your property -- including the property you had before you began the relationship as well as the property either or both of you accumulate during it.
Property owned before living together. You each probably had some property before you met. Just because you move in together doesn't mean you can't continue to own your TV, oriental tapestry and floppy-eared cocker spaniel, while your partner holds onto his car and collected works of Virginia Woolf. Making an agreement about the property you bring into the relationship may seem unnecessary, but it's not. Think about trying to separate it all ten years from now, when you've both been referring to everything around the house as "ours."
Property inherited or received by gift during the relationship. Many people will want to keep separate the property they inherit or receive by gift. Others will want to "donate" the property to the relationship. Again, it's up to you. Remember that any property given to both of you is legally owned by both -- this includes gifts you receive at your union ceremony or anniversary party, even if given by a relative or friend of just one of you. If you plan to keep inherited or gift property separate, don't forget to cover questions of use and control.
Property bought during the relationship. Many people make purchases item by item, understanding that whoever makes the purchase owns the property. Purchases also can be pooled. A consistent approach to property ownership may simplify things, but is required by neither law nor logic. Some items may be separately owned, some pooled 50-50, and some shared in proportion to how much money each contributed toward the purchase price or how much labor each put into upkeep.
Expenses during the relationship. How will you divide the day-to-day costs for food, utilities, laundry, housing and the like, especially if expenses go up or incomes go down? Even if you substitute margarine for butter, or vin ordinaire for Chateau Mouton-Rothschild, you must adopt a plan. We can't help you choose what you buy, but we have some suggestions of how to share expenses.
Share and share alike. Many couples have only one checking account. They both deposit their paychecks into it and pay all household bills out of it. They figure it all evens out in the end.
Split 50-50.
Several couples do this. Anytime one partner buys something for the house or pays a bill, he writes his name on the receipt and throws it into a jar. Every few months, they empty out the receipt jar and total up how much each has spent. One then writes the other a check to even things up.
Each contributes in proportion to her income. This works especially well for people with great income discrepancies.
We decided upon having two distinct accounts; but with each other having access to each others "just-in-case" type deal! Yep, it works, neither one of us have stolen anything from the other in over 25 years! Yipee!
Cooling Off Clause
Consider including a clause to remind yourselves of your commitment should the stress of a moment threaten to drive you apart. We call this a "cooling off" clause. Although it's not always enforceable in court, it's an excellent expression of intention. It can simply state that if one person wants to leave the relationship, he will take some time to cool off before grabbing the dog and the Waterford wineglasses and heading for the hills. Imperfect souls that we are, we make a lot of hasty, irrational decisions when we're hurt or angry that we later come to regret. A cooling off provision can break the routine and give you time to try to work things out.
Here are a few sample cooling off clauses:
Option 1. In the event either person is seriously considering ending the relationship, that person will take a vacation, finding another place to stay, whether with a friend or at a hotel, for at least one week before making a final decision. At least two more weeks will pass before we divide the property. In addition, we agree to attend at least one counseling session if either one of us wants it.
Option 2. Either of us can request a cooling off period for any reason, including that we are fighting. We will spend one week separately. At the end of the week, we will meet for a meal and try to discuss our difficulties rationally, and with affection for each other.
Option 3. At the request of either one of us, we agree to attend a minimum of four counseling sessions with a friend or professional before making any irrevocable decisions concerning our relationship.
Although our clauses don't, you can specify who will do the mediation. Your choices are a professional mediator, an attorney-mediator, your therapist, a trusted friend, a group of three colleagues, the minister of the local gay church or anyone else you know. Be creative to get the best person for the two of you. I know for a fact many cities, larger ones, have GLBT legal services some at no cost or low cost to assist in your needs.
Whatyathink?
Ron and Roger have NO intention in leaving each other........ever!........but, we also have protected one another from each others' families, should that be a problem (for us it never has been nor do we expect it; but when deaths occur, people go crazy over money and possessions)! Right..?
Let me know if you guys like our ideas and think it's valid! K?
Cock
We want most of all for our state and our country to legally recognize us as a married couple just like the couples that live on either side of us in Las Vegas!
Not gonna happen anytime soon, right?
Well, we've done the whole "Last Will and Testament" thingy, we've secured our insurance policies so that the surviving guy will be pretty well off, but can we do more?
We decided to look into Living Together Contracts.
Living together contracts -- what they are, whether you need one, and what to include if you do want to put some aspects of your commitment in writing.
A contract is no more than an agreement to do (or not to do) something. Marriage, for example, is a contractual relationship. Saying "I do" commits a couple to a well-established set of state laws and rules governing, among other things, the couple's property rights if they split up. Unlike married couples, however, couples who merely live together do not automatically agree to any contractual agreement when they start a relationship.
Of course it's a bit depressing to think about creating your own contract so you can break up amicably. But considering a contract and thinking about the issues involved can help you in many other ways: It will help you figure out what you intend -- and that, ideally, will lessen disagreement and misunderstandings even when things are going well.
We decided to look up the whole legal business end of this contract to see where we would stand:
Legal Rules Governing Living Together Contracts
Legal rules governing living together contracts have been made by courts and judges, and not by legislatures, for the most part. The leading court case is called Marvin v. Marvin, and involved the actor Lee Marvin and the woman he lived with, Michele Triola Marvin. (She used his last name even though they were not married.)
In the case, the California Supreme Court announced new legal principles involving the right of unmarried couples to make contracts. First, the court ruled that marital property laws do not apply to couples not legally married. Then, the court recognized that unmarried couples are here to stay. Finally, the court declared four contract principles:
Unmarried couples may make written contracts.
Unmarried couples may make oral contracts.
If a couple hasn't made a written or oral contract, the court may examine the couple's actions under the judicial microscope to decide whether an "implied" contract exists.
If a judge can't find an implied contract, she may presume that "the parties intend to deal fairly with each other" and find one lover indebted to the other by invoking well-established legal doctrines of equity and fairness.
Although Marvin applies only to California, other states have upheld the application of these principles to contracts made by gay and lesbian partners. Depending on the state, however, a court will follow different legal rules. Most states enforce contracts between gay and lesbian partners, although in some states only written contracts will be enforced. A very few states prohibit contracts between unmarried couples as fostering immorality, and a few haven't considered the question. In a state where sodomy is illegal, for example, a judge might refuse to enforce a contract on the ground that the underlying relationship is criminal. In fact, this is exactly what happened initially in a Georgia case, decided while sodomy was still a crime there. After a lesbian couple split up, one woman sued the other to enforce their written agreement. The trial judge refused because of their "illegal and immoral" relationship. The Supreme Court of Georgia reversed, saying that nothing in the agreement required them to engage in illegal activity. We discovered, after a long pain-staking search, that The State of Nevada "would" recognize these provisos.
When You Need a Living Together Contract
Obviously, you don't need a contract if you have no assets or are in a brief relationship. But in a long-term and serious relationship, whether you're basking in the glow of just having "joined forces" or you've been together 20 years, you should consider the legal consequences of how you live. If you are planning to mix assets or share expenses, please do everyone a big favor and put your agreement in writing, especially if significant money or property is involved. If you're both stone-broke NINKS (no income no kids) with no property and little prospect of getting any soon, you can still benefit by planning how you will handle money and property when it arrives. Also, you can put more emphasis on the practical issues of day-to-day living together which will do much to pave the road to the long-term happiness that lays ahead.
Why should you put your contract in writing? The sooner you agree on if and how to share your property, the less confusion and misery you are likely to face later. As the French legal scholar Beaumanoir wrote in Coutumes de Beauvaisis (1283): "For the memory of men slips and flows away, and the life of man is short, and that which isn't written is soon forgotten." **Bet you didn't know I could come up with this legaleeze stuff did ya Melody? lol
What to Include in a Living Together Contract
A living together contract can be comprehensive, covering every aspect of your relationship, or it can be specific, covering only your new house purchase. These contracts need not be like the fine-print monsters rammed down your throat when you buy insurance or a car. You can, and should, design your contract to say exactly what you both want, in words you both understand. A simple, comprehensible and functional document using common English is much better than one loaded with "heretofores" and "pursuants." No, I am NOT good at putting those politically correct words into the contract!!
If you want your living together contract to include the day-to-day details of your relationship, make two agreements. The first one should pertain only to property and finances. Then, if one of you ever sues the other in court, the property and finance terms should be the only ones a judge ever sees. Write up a second agreement if you wish about who will do the dishes, who will walk the dog, how many overnight guests you'll allow and whose art goes in the living room. A court won't -- and shouldn't be asked to -- enforce this kind of agreement. As a result, if you do just one agreement that includes the personal as well as financial clauses, a court might get distracted by the personal clauses, declare the contract illegal or frivolous, and refuse to enforce the more important financial clauses.
Property and Finances Clauses
Your living together agreement should cover all of your property -- including the property you had before you began the relationship as well as the property either or both of you accumulate during it.
Property owned before living together. You each probably had some property before you met. Just because you move in together doesn't mean you can't continue to own your TV, oriental tapestry and floppy-eared cocker spaniel, while your partner holds onto his car and collected works of Virginia Woolf. Making an agreement about the property you bring into the relationship may seem unnecessary, but it's not. Think about trying to separate it all ten years from now, when you've both been referring to everything around the house as "ours."
Property inherited or received by gift during the relationship. Many people will want to keep separate the property they inherit or receive by gift. Others will want to "donate" the property to the relationship. Again, it's up to you. Remember that any property given to both of you is legally owned by both -- this includes gifts you receive at your union ceremony or anniversary party, even if given by a relative or friend of just one of you. If you plan to keep inherited or gift property separate, don't forget to cover questions of use and control.
Property bought during the relationship. Many people make purchases item by item, understanding that whoever makes the purchase owns the property. Purchases also can be pooled. A consistent approach to property ownership may simplify things, but is required by neither law nor logic. Some items may be separately owned, some pooled 50-50, and some shared in proportion to how much money each contributed toward the purchase price or how much labor each put into upkeep.
Expenses during the relationship. How will you divide the day-to-day costs for food, utilities, laundry, housing and the like, especially if expenses go up or incomes go down? Even if you substitute margarine for butter, or vin ordinaire for Chateau Mouton-Rothschild, you must adopt a plan. We can't help you choose what you buy, but we have some suggestions of how to share expenses.
Share and share alike. Many couples have only one checking account. They both deposit their paychecks into it and pay all household bills out of it. They figure it all evens out in the end.
Split 50-50.
Several couples do this. Anytime one partner buys something for the house or pays a bill, he writes his name on the receipt and throws it into a jar. Every few months, they empty out the receipt jar and total up how much each has spent. One then writes the other a check to even things up.
Each contributes in proportion to her income. This works especially well for people with great income discrepancies.
We decided upon having two distinct accounts; but with each other having access to each others "just-in-case" type deal! Yep, it works, neither one of us have stolen anything from the other in over 25 years! Yipee!
Cooling Off Clause
Consider including a clause to remind yourselves of your commitment should the stress of a moment threaten to drive you apart. We call this a "cooling off" clause. Although it's not always enforceable in court, it's an excellent expression of intention. It can simply state that if one person wants to leave the relationship, he will take some time to cool off before grabbing the dog and the Waterford wineglasses and heading for the hills. Imperfect souls that we are, we make a lot of hasty, irrational decisions when we're hurt or angry that we later come to regret. A cooling off provision can break the routine and give you time to try to work things out.
Here are a few sample cooling off clauses:
Option 1. In the event either person is seriously considering ending the relationship, that person will take a vacation, finding another place to stay, whether with a friend or at a hotel, for at least one week before making a final decision. At least two more weeks will pass before we divide the property. In addition, we agree to attend at least one counseling session if either one of us wants it.
Option 2. Either of us can request a cooling off period for any reason, including that we are fighting. We will spend one week separately. At the end of the week, we will meet for a meal and try to discuss our difficulties rationally, and with affection for each other.
Option 3. At the request of either one of us, we agree to attend a minimum of four counseling sessions with a friend or professional before making any irrevocable decisions concerning our relationship.
Although our clauses don't, you can specify who will do the mediation. Your choices are a professional mediator, an attorney-mediator, your therapist, a trusted friend, a group of three colleagues, the minister of the local gay church or anyone else you know. Be creative to get the best person for the two of you. I know for a fact many cities, larger ones, have GLBT legal services some at no cost or low cost to assist in your needs.
Whatyathink?
Ron and Roger have NO intention in leaving each other........ever!........but, we also have protected one another from each others' families, should that be a problem (for us it never has been nor do we expect it; but when deaths occur, people go crazy over money and possessions)! Right..?
Let me know if you guys like our ideas and think it's valid! K?
Cock
cocktales
Sin City Cock-Sucker!!
What Is Alzheimer's Disease?
We all forget things once in a while. It isn't strange to forget to send a card for someone's birthday or return your overdue library book. Forgetting stuff sometimes is a part of life and it often becomes more common as people age.
But Alzheimer's disease is different than just forgetting little things every so often. It is a condition that permanently affects the brain, and over time, makes it harder to remember even the routine things of every day. At first, a person might forget how to tie a shoe or a favorite memory from childhood.
But eventually, that person may have trouble remembering the names and faces of family members - or even who he or she is - on a daily basis. Alzheimer's disease usually affects people over 65 years of age, and there is no cure right now.
My great friend Helen's dad is in a home because he has alzheimers disease and does not know anyone, quite often........this is just devistating to Helen because she was always the apple of his eye!
She called and asked me to go with her to visit her Dad today and of course I agreed. Her Dad is in a home that specializes in treating people with the disease. This place is just about the most disturbing site I've seen lately...
To the outside observer it looks perfectly normal.......pretty building, clean, that antiseptic smell though, nice carpet on the floors, prints and pictures all over the walls and lots of people sitting around in different state of confusion!
The staff seems like angels, watching over them, talking to them, consoling them and just trying to make any "contact" they can with each and everyone of them.
The patients have to be watched constantly--24/7/365 or they will just leave and not know who they are, where they are from and all the other 20 questions you ask someone when they are lost!!!
Helen's Dad was sitting on a sofa in the TV room just staring at Bob Barker doing the Price Is Right on TV....there were several other people sitting there also just staring at the TV showing no emotion whosoever......just staring at the TV screen.
Helen approached her Dad and gave him a hug and a kiss and he showed almost no recognition........she introduced me and I too gave him a hug........I've Known him over 15 years and he was a wonderful man.......now he's just a shell of a man just going through the motions of life.
Helen got a wheel chair and we took her Dad on a stroll out into the garden where there is a fountain and pond with fish in it and benches and trees and flowers....nice, the weather was cool and sunny; nice.
We sat on a park bench and parked the wheel chair next to us......Helen tried to engage her Dad in conversation to no avail. She had brought along a picture album, which she brings each time she visits to see if she can get her Dad to recognize anyone in the album......we went through the whole album with Helen explaining each picture, names, dates, events and her Dad showed no emotion....
We stayed with her Dad for over an hour and he spoke not one word, no sound; but when we got up to leave, I hugged him gave him a kiss on the cheek and a big tear rolled down the side of his face!!!! Well, I broke down too and Helen joined and we all cried........there has to be someone home in there---the shell's not empty. Her Dad remembered "something" and the only way he could express it was with tears!!!
Helen and I left, went out to dinner that evening with my Partner Ron and we had another cry, good food and great friendship.
Please God, don't let these wonderful people suffer from this horrible disease. Don't take Mom's and Dad's away from their children.....Please let us find a cure soon.
Cock
We all forget things once in a while. It isn't strange to forget to send a card for someone's birthday or return your overdue library book. Forgetting stuff sometimes is a part of life and it often becomes more common as people age.
But Alzheimer's disease is different than just forgetting little things every so often. It is a condition that permanently affects the brain, and over time, makes it harder to remember even the routine things of every day. At first, a person might forget how to tie a shoe or a favorite memory from childhood.
But eventually, that person may have trouble remembering the names and faces of family members - or even who he or she is - on a daily basis. Alzheimer's disease usually affects people over 65 years of age, and there is no cure right now.
My great friend Helen's dad is in a home because he has alzheimers disease and does not know anyone, quite often........this is just devistating to Helen because she was always the apple of his eye!
She called and asked me to go with her to visit her Dad today and of course I agreed. Her Dad is in a home that specializes in treating people with the disease. This place is just about the most disturbing site I've seen lately...
To the outside observer it looks perfectly normal.......pretty building, clean, that antiseptic smell though, nice carpet on the floors, prints and pictures all over the walls and lots of people sitting around in different state of confusion!
The staff seems like angels, watching over them, talking to them, consoling them and just trying to make any "contact" they can with each and everyone of them.
The patients have to be watched constantly--24/7/365 or they will just leave and not know who they are, where they are from and all the other 20 questions you ask someone when they are lost!!!
Helen's Dad was sitting on a sofa in the TV room just staring at Bob Barker doing the Price Is Right on TV....there were several other people sitting there also just staring at the TV showing no emotion whosoever......just staring at the TV screen.
Helen approached her Dad and gave him a hug and a kiss and he showed almost no recognition........she introduced me and I too gave him a hug........I've Known him over 15 years and he was a wonderful man.......now he's just a shell of a man just going through the motions of life.
Helen got a wheel chair and we took her Dad on a stroll out into the garden where there is a fountain and pond with fish in it and benches and trees and flowers....nice, the weather was cool and sunny; nice.
We sat on a park bench and parked the wheel chair next to us......Helen tried to engage her Dad in conversation to no avail. She had brought along a picture album, which she brings each time she visits to see if she can get her Dad to recognize anyone in the album......we went through the whole album with Helen explaining each picture, names, dates, events and her Dad showed no emotion....
We stayed with her Dad for over an hour and he spoke not one word, no sound; but when we got up to leave, I hugged him gave him a kiss on the cheek and a big tear rolled down the side of his face!!!! Well, I broke down too and Helen joined and we all cried........there has to be someone home in there---the shell's not empty. Her Dad remembered "something" and the only way he could express it was with tears!!!
Helen and I left, went out to dinner that evening with my Partner Ron and we had another cry, good food and great friendship.
Please God, don't let these wonderful people suffer from this horrible disease. Don't take Mom's and Dad's away from their children.....Please let us find a cure soon.
Cock
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Sin City Cock-Sucker!!
I know, I know, why should two men who are already retired want a vacation?
Well, even though we live in the fast moving city of Las Vegas, you get tired of the glitz and glamour and want to go to a place to just slow down and unwind without having to do the boring day to day things we all have to do at home....
We will probably stay home through the Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays; but want to go somewhere after the First of the year...........gotta be here for the New Years Eve bashes that go on.......people come from all over the world to see our beautiful city, so we might as well stay and enjoy it too! lol
Does anyone have any suggestions for a "warm" weather vacation?
We both love Palm Springs and that's always a quick option since it's just over 200 miles away from Las Vegas............we call it our second home anyway! lol
If you have never been to PS, you must go and see what a spectacular, wonderful experience it is....To be able to walk down the street with your lovers' hand in yours, arm in arm or touching.........and noone cares. Is that not heaven on earth? The first few times we went, we saw all the happenings and thought any moment the "Fag Police" would swoop down and run them in; but NO!
Any other suggestions? We've got to think about reservations even though its a few months away, the good spots will go quickly......help us please.
I have to run for now; but please any suggestions gladly accepted........remember warm! NO snow, no Ice, except in cocktail glasses! lol
Cock
Well, even though we live in the fast moving city of Las Vegas, you get tired of the glitz and glamour and want to go to a place to just slow down and unwind without having to do the boring day to day things we all have to do at home....
We will probably stay home through the Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays; but want to go somewhere after the First of the year...........gotta be here for the New Years Eve bashes that go on.......people come from all over the world to see our beautiful city, so we might as well stay and enjoy it too! lol
Does anyone have any suggestions for a "warm" weather vacation?
We both love Palm Springs and that's always a quick option since it's just over 200 miles away from Las Vegas............we call it our second home anyway! lol
If you have never been to PS, you must go and see what a spectacular, wonderful experience it is....To be able to walk down the street with your lovers' hand in yours, arm in arm or touching.........and noone cares. Is that not heaven on earth? The first few times we went, we saw all the happenings and thought any moment the "Fag Police" would swoop down and run them in; but NO!
Any other suggestions? We've got to think about reservations even though its a few months away, the good spots will go quickly......help us please.
I have to run for now; but please any suggestions gladly accepted........remember warm! NO snow, no Ice, except in cocktail glasses! lol
Cock
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Sin City Cock-Sucker!!
Leaves are everywhere.
Later today the winds are supposed to kick in after a cool front sweeps by. That will bring down even more leaves. By the end of the week most of the leaves will be on the ground rather than on the trees. There is so much beauty in the leaves on the ground in the patterns they make.
We are finishing up what must be described as a dreary week. Cloudy and overcast most day, but not much in the way of rain. And when it did rain is was mostly just a light drizzle. We are now in the middle of the major leaf dropping time around here. A good bit of the leaves are gone, some trees are bare, but many still have upwards of 30-40 percent of their leaves left.
Can you believe that I talking about leaves falling and I live in the Mojave Desert of Las Vegas, Nevada! Yep, the desert is no longer cactus, sand and such; but we've added non-typical trees to this environment and added water and changed the whole eco-system......
We live about 45 minutes from one of the highest peaks in Nevada, Mt. Charleston. It offers ski and snow boarding at a lesser degree than Vale! lol, that my friend is an under-statement of fact! But consider the alternatives, it's right in our back door, cheap and accessable.....so we go for it. The leaves changed color some time ago up there cause we have several inches of snow on the higher slopes.........cold at night!
That's what I like about the so called high-desert environment, hot,hot summers with cool nights, Spring and Fall are just wonderful and hardly any extreme cold temperatures during the winter....
It's NOT a well-kept secret about our fine climate. The rest of the world has found us out. We're still one of the fastest growing cities/state in the country! Dammit!
It's OK for you to come here to gamble.....but, lose your money, then go back home! lol
I am almost kiddin, yeah, I am, why must we have the copyright on happiness in this environment!
*Damn, did I write that? I like that statement (maybe, I just remembered it from someone else, maybe, I stole it from someone else and don't even know it....shit!)
Cock
Later today the winds are supposed to kick in after a cool front sweeps by. That will bring down even more leaves. By the end of the week most of the leaves will be on the ground rather than on the trees. There is so much beauty in the leaves on the ground in the patterns they make.
We are finishing up what must be described as a dreary week. Cloudy and overcast most day, but not much in the way of rain. And when it did rain is was mostly just a light drizzle. We are now in the middle of the major leaf dropping time around here. A good bit of the leaves are gone, some trees are bare, but many still have upwards of 30-40 percent of their leaves left.
Can you believe that I talking about leaves falling and I live in the Mojave Desert of Las Vegas, Nevada! Yep, the desert is no longer cactus, sand and such; but we've added non-typical trees to this environment and added water and changed the whole eco-system......
We live about 45 minutes from one of the highest peaks in Nevada, Mt. Charleston. It offers ski and snow boarding at a lesser degree than Vale! lol, that my friend is an under-statement of fact! But consider the alternatives, it's right in our back door, cheap and accessable.....so we go for it. The leaves changed color some time ago up there cause we have several inches of snow on the higher slopes.........cold at night!
That's what I like about the so called high-desert environment, hot,hot summers with cool nights, Spring and Fall are just wonderful and hardly any extreme cold temperatures during the winter....
It's NOT a well-kept secret about our fine climate. The rest of the world has found us out. We're still one of the fastest growing cities/state in the country! Dammit!
It's OK for you to come here to gamble.....but, lose your money, then go back home! lol
I am almost kiddin, yeah, I am, why must we have the copyright on happiness in this environment!
*Damn, did I write that? I like that statement (maybe, I just remembered it from someone else, maybe, I stole it from someone else and don't even know it....shit!)
Cock
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Sin City Cock-Sucker!!
Too often in recent decades, we have been a nation that has forgotten the most important things.
Many Americans as well as our JUB International friends' have forgotten the importance of the traditional family as divorce, living together unmarried and the same sex lifestyle has become more widespread, accepted, even embraced by opinion making elites in religion, politics and the news media.
Many Americans are trying to change history, convincing us that the separation of church and state was intended by our founding fathers to mean something quite different than which our Founding Fathers intended. It is clear that what they sought to guard against was the establishment of an official state religion.
The shock of 9/11 forced many Americans to reconsider what is most important in their lives, but as the memory of that terrible day becomes more distant for many, their thoughts now consumed by their daily lives, things are returning to "normal."
Fortunately, we have an annual day that provides a good opportunity to take stock of our lives and what is truly important.
Thanksgiving is a day to remember what is most important in life. There is no better time to reflect what is most important in your life and that of your family.
For Americans, George Washington in 1789, acting upon the recommendation of both Houses of Congress, issued a proclamation declaring Thursday, November 26, 1789 to be a "day of public thanksgiving and prayer." His thoughts, as expressed in the proclamation, are still worth recalling two centuries later.
President Washington's proclamation said the day of Thanksgiving is "to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be -- That we may then all unite in rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks -- for his kind care and protection of the People of this Country previous to their becoming a Nation -- for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions of his Providence which we experienced in the tranquility, union, and plenty, which we have since enjoyed -- for the peaceable and rational manner, in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national One now lately instituted -- for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed; and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and in general for all the great and various favors which he hath been pleased to confer upon us."
Those are words worth remembering as much now as when they were written more than two centuries ago as we gather with family and friends this Thanksgiving.
We have been blessed by the ability to celebrate another Thanksgiving. We have no idea what the future holds for our country and ourselves, but we should recall that President Washington's proclamation advised "it is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favour."
Let us give thanks to Him or a being or whatever you believe, that we have been granted another year in which to celebrate this holiday with those who matter most to us.
I'm NOT trying to push religion........celebrating nature and giving thanks for what we have does NOT have to be through a supreme being..........whatever you believe and in any way you believe it!
Now, we have to think about going out, going to friends, or cooking and inviting friends over! Since I would be the Chef, I think maybe I vote for the two where I don't have to do all the work! LOL! Blame me?
I will NOT be selfish, if Ron wants to do the whole soup to nuts thingy with the bird, I will agree to Feast with my Gay Brethren!! Celebrate the Bountiful Harvest, so to speak!
I have a few days to think about it and invite or get invited, I guess..Wish me luck!
Cock
Many Americans as well as our JUB International friends' have forgotten the importance of the traditional family as divorce, living together unmarried and the same sex lifestyle has become more widespread, accepted, even embraced by opinion making elites in religion, politics and the news media.
Many Americans are trying to change history, convincing us that the separation of church and state was intended by our founding fathers to mean something quite different than which our Founding Fathers intended. It is clear that what they sought to guard against was the establishment of an official state religion.
The shock of 9/11 forced many Americans to reconsider what is most important in their lives, but as the memory of that terrible day becomes more distant for many, their thoughts now consumed by their daily lives, things are returning to "normal."
Fortunately, we have an annual day that provides a good opportunity to take stock of our lives and what is truly important.
Thanksgiving is a day to remember what is most important in life. There is no better time to reflect what is most important in your life and that of your family.
For Americans, George Washington in 1789, acting upon the recommendation of both Houses of Congress, issued a proclamation declaring Thursday, November 26, 1789 to be a "day of public thanksgiving and prayer." His thoughts, as expressed in the proclamation, are still worth recalling two centuries later.
President Washington's proclamation said the day of Thanksgiving is "to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be -- That we may then all unite in rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks -- for his kind care and protection of the People of this Country previous to their becoming a Nation -- for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions of his Providence which we experienced in the tranquility, union, and plenty, which we have since enjoyed -- for the peaceable and rational manner, in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national One now lately instituted -- for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed; and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and in general for all the great and various favors which he hath been pleased to confer upon us."
Those are words worth remembering as much now as when they were written more than two centuries ago as we gather with family and friends this Thanksgiving.
We have been blessed by the ability to celebrate another Thanksgiving. We have no idea what the future holds for our country and ourselves, but we should recall that President Washington's proclamation advised "it is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favour."
Let us give thanks to Him or a being or whatever you believe, that we have been granted another year in which to celebrate this holiday with those who matter most to us.
I'm NOT trying to push religion........celebrating nature and giving thanks for what we have does NOT have to be through a supreme being..........whatever you believe and in any way you believe it!
Now, we have to think about going out, going to friends, or cooking and inviting friends over! Since I would be the Chef, I think maybe I vote for the two where I don't have to do all the work! LOL! Blame me?
I will NOT be selfish, if Ron wants to do the whole soup to nuts thingy with the bird, I will agree to Feast with my Gay Brethren!! Celebrate the Bountiful Harvest, so to speak!
I have a few days to think about it and invite or get invited, I guess..Wish me luck!
Cock
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Sin City Cock-Sucker!!
One reason we are considered to be one of the "meanest" cities is because shelters keep closing. Those who published the report say instead of spending money on expanding services for the homeless, we give it to police so they can arrest homeless people for sleeping in the streets and jaywalking. They blame elected officials for making it illegal to be homeless.
The Mayor of our fair city, Oscar Goodman counters by saying, we do NOT target homeless people to be arrested nor any other law directed toward this group of people.
Where does your city or state fall in the list?
20 Meanest Cities
1. Little Rock, Arkansas
2. Atlanta, Georgia
3. Cincinnati, Ohio
4. Las Vegas, Nevada
5. Gainesville, Florida
6. New York City, New York
7. Los Angeles, California
8. San Francisco, California
9. Honolulu, Hawaii
10. Austin, Texas
11. Sarasota, Florida
12. Key West, Florida
13. Nashville, Tennessee
14. Berkeley, California
15. Dallas, Texas
16. Fresno, California
17. San Antonio, Texas
18. Milwaukee, Wisconsin
19. St. Paul, Minnesota
20. Manchester, New Hampshire
Meanest States
1. California
2. Florida
3. Hawaii
4. Texas
I am not sure about the rest of the list of states; but damn, there's some mighty big cities on that list!
I am not for putting the homeless people in jail just because they are homeless!
I do, have a problem with so many homeless people stopping me asking for a handout all the time.
I am "for charity" and I give quite a sizeable amount each year personally as well as through my property taxes that support the indigent *sp* in our city for health care, etc.
Las Vegas is a mecca for tourists and you have to see the Mayor's Point of View about these tourists being accousted by these people while here to have a good time in our city...
Not only that; but at just about every major intersection you have a homeless person with a sign asking for money!!! You would not believe the numbers doing this and they do quite well at this!
What's the solution? We have the churches sponsoring food lines everyday for these people, our County Hospital: University Medical Center's ER is flooded with them daily, and yet we are considered "mean" to them.
Anyone else out there see the problem?
How about the solution?
When you try to help most of these people, you find out this is their chosen life-style. Yes, can you believe that?
We give blankets, clothes, coats and anything else to support these people so that they do not freeze during the winter.
I do not know the final answer to eliminate this problem, do you?
The Mayor of our fair city, Oscar Goodman counters by saying, we do NOT target homeless people to be arrested nor any other law directed toward this group of people.
Where does your city or state fall in the list?
20 Meanest Cities
1. Little Rock, Arkansas
2. Atlanta, Georgia
3. Cincinnati, Ohio
4. Las Vegas, Nevada
5. Gainesville, Florida
6. New York City, New York
7. Los Angeles, California
8. San Francisco, California
9. Honolulu, Hawaii
10. Austin, Texas
11. Sarasota, Florida
12. Key West, Florida
13. Nashville, Tennessee
14. Berkeley, California
15. Dallas, Texas
16. Fresno, California
17. San Antonio, Texas
18. Milwaukee, Wisconsin
19. St. Paul, Minnesota
20. Manchester, New Hampshire
Meanest States
1. California
2. Florida
3. Hawaii
4. Texas
I am not sure about the rest of the list of states; but damn, there's some mighty big cities on that list!
I am not for putting the homeless people in jail just because they are homeless!
I do, have a problem with so many homeless people stopping me asking for a handout all the time.
I am "for charity" and I give quite a sizeable amount each year personally as well as through my property taxes that support the indigent *sp* in our city for health care, etc.
Las Vegas is a mecca for tourists and you have to see the Mayor's Point of View about these tourists being accousted by these people while here to have a good time in our city...
Not only that; but at just about every major intersection you have a homeless person with a sign asking for money!!! You would not believe the numbers doing this and they do quite well at this!
What's the solution? We have the churches sponsoring food lines everyday for these people, our County Hospital: University Medical Center's ER is flooded with them daily, and yet we are considered "mean" to them.
Anyone else out there see the problem?
How about the solution?
When you try to help most of these people, you find out this is their chosen life-style. Yes, can you believe that?
We give blankets, clothes, coats and anything else to support these people so that they do not freeze during the winter.
I do not know the final answer to eliminate this problem, do you?
cocktales
Sin City Cock-Sucker!!
You know as you get older and older and you have given someone gifts along the years, you suddenly get to the point where you simply do not know what to buy this person!
How many of you out there share my predictament?
This man I've been living with for the last 25 years is the one, of course, I am talking about............who else? lol lol lol!!!
You can say, well, just give him money, you can never go wrong with money!
Doesn't that just sound to cold for the person you love, trust, want, need, spend everyday thanking God for, etc?????!!!!!
Surely, on this great earth, there's something really unique that I have not thought of that would turn Ron to mush when he opened it!
I've done jewlelry...lots and lots; I've done fine clothing; I've done trips; I've done trip to spa's, I've done athletic club memberships (both of us so not to offend)!; I've done furniture, I've done some nice Knick/knacks, I've done fine china, I've done fine crystal............etc.....
Ron is like me though, material things are really, really nice and of course we both like and enjoy the fineries of life; but too, we can just lay back and wallow in simpleness too!
Maybe that's the answer!
I've got to come up with something that requires NO effort, requires No travelling to get to, requires little money; but satisfies to the "N"th degree!
Ahhh, how's about a nice B & B in some snow resort that is kinda off the beaten path of the skiiers/snowboarders?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, got any ideas of where that could be? Maybe there's no such place(s) to find near ski resorts; but they don't ski; but just enjoy nature and each other in a serene environment?
Help out there in JUBBER land!
Well, guess the old WWW will be smokin till I find just the right place; not too far from home; but far enuf away to discourage us from running home too soon!
Gotta work on this!
TBA!
Cock!
How many of you out there share my predictament?
This man I've been living with for the last 25 years is the one, of course, I am talking about............who else? lol lol lol!!!
You can say, well, just give him money, you can never go wrong with money!
Doesn't that just sound to cold for the person you love, trust, want, need, spend everyday thanking God for, etc?????!!!!!
Surely, on this great earth, there's something really unique that I have not thought of that would turn Ron to mush when he opened it!
I've done jewlelry...lots and lots; I've done fine clothing; I've done trips; I've done trip to spa's, I've done athletic club memberships (both of us so not to offend)!; I've done furniture, I've done some nice Knick/knacks, I've done fine china, I've done fine crystal............etc.....
Ron is like me though, material things are really, really nice and of course we both like and enjoy the fineries of life; but too, we can just lay back and wallow in simpleness too!
Maybe that's the answer!
I've got to come up with something that requires NO effort, requires No travelling to get to, requires little money; but satisfies to the "N"th degree!
Ahhh, how's about a nice B & B in some snow resort that is kinda off the beaten path of the skiiers/snowboarders?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, got any ideas of where that could be? Maybe there's no such place(s) to find near ski resorts; but they don't ski; but just enjoy nature and each other in a serene environment?
Help out there in JUBBER land!
Well, guess the old WWW will be smokin till I find just the right place; not too far from home; but far enuf away to discourage us from running home too soon!
Gotta work on this!
TBA!
Cock!
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