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Confess something that might surprise others or damage your reputation on JUB - 2014

Both classicist and more "baroque-rococo" XVIIIth century continental Western European facades like the one to the center-right of this pic, indefectibly make me mellow and horny to be topped:


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^ I'm intrigued.

1. the bulk of that street is for pedestrians with a small area for petrol motor vehicles?
2. you a receiver?
 
^ I'm intrigued.

1. the bulk of that street is for pedestrians with a small area for petrol motor vehicles?

You never heard of or read about ramblas? They are usually old torrents, mostly dug by sudden, heavy Mediterranean storms, that were later converted in that sort of alleys you described, which gave way to a type of boulevard irrespective of the place in which they are developed ever having been an actual watercourse.

Nevermind the wiki article: there they talk about the South American use, which in Spain is called "paseo marítimo". In Spain, a rambla is a central alley with two minor ways for vehicles between that central promenade and the sidewalks.
 
So most of them were originally streams of water? And is there an accessible drain underneath the paved pedestrian area?

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And that picture in #1783 is an actual building in BCN?

They were not permanent courses of water, they are the ways the rainwater found in the natural shape of the land, or made by itself, to make its way to the sea: you also have to take into account that Spain is very mountainous, and that I Catalonia the ridges are very close to the sea... in BCN, in about three miles the height rises directly from sea level to 1,600 feet.

Yes, it is.
 
So most of them were originally streams of water? And is there an accessible drain underneath the paved pedestrian area?

In the case of BCN what you find in some very isolated spots that have lst the pavement, specially around the base of the trees, is merely sand, but in some other towns the permanent courses have squarely been built upon ignoring what will happen whenever there are heavy storms, specially towards the end of summer or in spring.


Like with earthquakes, depending on the area, they can live carefree with just something like this without fearing major damage, but in lots of places all around Spain, you will find people who have their homes flooded every single year, even twice a year, and nobody will care more than themselves to change anything: typical Spanish, just low your head and munch your own bitterness.

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* Hmmm*


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"Hmmm" what.
 
I saw a TV doco on Sir Joseph Bazalgette which I think mentioned the BCN underground stormwater drains.

In the case of BCN what you find in some very isolated spots that have lst the pavement, specially around the base of the trees, is merely sand, but in some other towns the permanent courses have squarely been built upon ...
I guess the sand and soil help the tree roots. But I guess all these decisions were made before the arrival of the INFERNAL motor car! :(

https://www.google.com/maps/place/C...2!3m1!1s0x12a388dae2bd6001:0x7d1ada9a0ed9df2a

Is that a drain debouching into the sea?


..."Hmmm" what.
I should ruminate on that in a PM. :)
 
^ :eek: That is a massive chamber which I would have thought could have contained any flood.

But when was it built? Joseph Bazalgette's London drains (which this hour-long doco I saw claimed were a world-first) were constructed in the 1860s.
 
^ :eek: That is a massive chamber which I would have thought could have contained any flood.

But when was it built?

No. It just help with the rainy mess sometimes.


Does it look Byzantine?


Late 1990s I think... more or less when BCN finally started looking like a remotely decent city.
 
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