Corbin Fisher (Merged Thread)

[PhunkSpunk]

Re: Corbin Fisher

Sorry, but this is bass ackwards PhunkSpunk. Logan worked for and appeared on CF first. Logan did do some solo work (for a very brief period) for Fratmen, months after his first CF appearance, but ultimately he chose to work for CF and has the most seniority of the CF regulars.

Yeah, 'Logan' had a six month hiatus from CFU, during which time I'm guessing he did his 'Wes' films.

 

[dav242]

Re: Corbin Fisher

oh phunk. you and your persistent defense of the straight-boys. will you marry me?

i probably should be spending time with family, but they're boring and i just thought i'd comment.

I don't think we're going to see 'Dawson' dancing shirtless at Roxy or joining 'AJ'/Blu on the bar at Boysroom anytime soon.

but that's ok. i think i speak for alot of guys in saying this - i don't really need to see him at the gay bars with AJ or "Tory Mason" - as long as he keeps on fucking guys on camera and making me believe he's into it, it's all good.

but that raises another point.
scenes that lack "passion" do nothing for me.
for me, watching gay-for-pay ryan idol fuck a guy is as gratifying as watching two lesbians stick their fingers into each others' pussies.

and yet i can get off to CF clips, where the guys claim to be and are heavily marketed as being straight, which by definition, means they're not into other guys.

interesting, no?

it's funny that you mention george duroy and the Bel Ami boys. i believe i remember you said something in a PM to me about how those guys do nothing for you. i'm the same way. i think they're beautiful men, but i agree that Bel Ami sex scenes have never really done it for me.

by acknowledging that most of those eastern european twinks are straight, you've given one good explanation as to why those scenes have left me cold

they're gay-for-pay, straight boys who can't fuck with heat if their lives depended on it.

even though Bel Ami has all the making of great gay porn (beautiful bodies, even more beautiful faces, and nice, thick penetration), the sex is mechanical.

stick part A into part B.
cum.
fade out.
end scene.

it's almost like a falcon scene (which is a sad commentary on their production values since alot of the falcon guys are openly gay).

so yeah, i'll believe you if you say that most of the guys in Bel Ami porn are straight and bring their girlfriends to watch them get plowed.

i'll believe you because i can't and never really have gotten off watching that Bel Ami porn.

when it comes to gay porn, what gets me off is a scene that has "heat," "passion," and some form of authenticity.

sure, dawson may just be a great actor and may be able to feign passion and emotion like the academy award winner that he is.

sure, the director of these scenes may just be telling these guys to "look at each other more intently" and to do random things like stick a dick into their mouth right before they cum and to whisper stuff like "harder" in the heat of the moment (although, honestly, if these guys can remember to do all that crap during a scene, i can't see why they can't find better paying, long-term work in the corporate world).

sure, the editors at CF may just be so superb that they can seamlessly connect disjointed scenes to make it appear as though these guys are more into what they're doing than they actually are.

but, you have to admit that, despite all the smokes and mirrors involved, you've actually seen something special in these CF clips that, unlike typical gay-for-pay scenes, have allowed you - with your discriminating tastes and discerning cock - to get off and cum with the rest of us.

that has to say something.

and ok, dawson may have taken years to cum in that one scene that you reference and he may have needed to stare at pussy for an hour before actually climaxing. that's fine. but a part of him must've been gay enough to look a guy in the eyes, kiss him sensually on the lips, and convince me and my dick that what i was seeing was somewhat genuine. i can't do gay-for-pay that lacks genuine heat, but he's made me believe in the authenticity of his work enough to get me to cum, and i'm sure he's made you believe enough to cum too.

so either
1) he's just an amazing actor and has duped all of us fags
OR
2) a part of him is gay enough (maybe he's 10% gay) to make his scenes work for even the most discriminating of gay guys

i'm going to go with (2) because, although i don't mind being duped, i would not be able to live with myself knowing that dawson's sellling himself short as an actor by limiting himself to this small-time gay internet porn. with his skills, he'd hit the jackpot in hollywood.

not arguing here, though.
that's just my opinion.

 

[Raven03]

Re: Corbin Fisher

Corbin Fisher insists that Mason and Damon presented represented themselves to him as being straight. There could be some truth to that: wouldn't you lie for an opportunity to play with Lucas or, as in Mason's case, get the shit fucked out of you by Cade? Mason tips his hand in the middle of that video when he says 'I've never been fucked by a dick this big before!' (obviously prior to his encounter with Ralph Woods )

That also could be true. It wouldnt be the first time a model lied about his sexuality to get on film and doubt that it will be the last. I think it was Sean Cody that stated that he had caught a couple of gay models lying about that because they thought they wouldnt get hired. With so many guys with the bend the straight boy fantasy I guess they feel the need to put up an act to actually get a chance. As for Mason and Damon their just two of the few that have really been noticed and thats just on CF.

As for the comment about the majority of gay porn is gay for pay, I think that is an exagguration. Is there a large amount of it? yes. However there is also plenty of gay performers out there as well. Even outside of amature sites some models do play the straight card to get noticed(or as a cover up) even though they are known to be gay/bi behind the scenes. I am sure some producers do question in their head some of the models true sexuality. In the end people will believe what they want to believe. As long as the sex is hot I am sure they wont get too many complaints.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Re: Corbin Fisher

I think it was Sean Cody that stated that he had caught a couple of gay models lying about that because they thought they wouldnt get hired.

Which ones were these? I always wondered about Trevor, the straight guy who liked to get fucked up the ass. However, based on the number of toys in a geisha's pleasure chest, I don't think it is correct to presume that enjoyment of anal stimulation and penetration is at all predictive of sexuality. I know plenty of gay men for whom getting fucked is just a pain in the ass

Sean Cody was the originator of this 'straight/amateur/fratboy' genre of porn. There was no question that it was the hottest stuff going: my heart skipped a beat the first time I say Zack go down. Eventually, he got his 'straight' boys to do everything -- but kiss! I think this was more his director's choice than anything else: kissing would destroy the illusion that they were 'straight'.

For me, no kissing was incredibly frustrating. I'd have loved to have seen Zack, Trevor, Dylan, and Adam suck face -- preferably with each other.

I think Corbin Fisher appreciated this frustration, and I suspect he directed his straight guys to kiss as a way of distinguishing his site from Sean Cody I don't know if any of you have picked up on this vibe, but the kissing between two of the advertised 'straight studs' often seems very prefunctory: a smootch to start out with, maybe one or two brief ones during foreplay (esp. frotting), and then a final post-coital goodbye one. Dawson, Lucas, and Ryan II are far and away the least enthusiastic when it comes to sucking face. Cade, and especially Brent both can kiss like genuine lovers (especially when they are paired together); but then they are the ones for whom my index of suspicion is highest.

I think it's hysterical that Sean Cody had straight guys go oral and , and Corbin Fisher decided to take it up a notch by allowing them to

As for the comment about the majority of gay porn is gay for pay, I think that is an exagguration. Is there a large amount of it? yes. However there is also plenty of gay performers out there as well.

I have no doubt that there are plenty of gay guys willing to perform. It's more a question of them getting hired.

An errata regarding my earlier post: it may have been Chi Chi La Rue who said it was easier to direct straight guys: they take their viagra, watch some pussy porn (or maybe get fluffed by some babe) and then do what they are told.

For the past two years, I've marvelled at what producers like Sean Cody Corbin Fisher, and especially Dink Flamingo can get their guys to do -- stuff that I would have to think twice about, and would only feel comfortable doing in the context of an exclusive relationship. And that's the key: I think about it and they don't. I attach a certain gravitas to various acts, which are meaningless to these guys: kiss, suck, rim, fuck -- it's all of a peice to them. And I'm sure each act they perform has a price tag attached to it. If getting fucked means another $500, what the hell?

I am sure some producers do question in their head some of the models true sexuality. In the end people will believe what they want to believe. As long as the sex is hot I am sure they wont get too many complaints.

Actually I understand that Corbin Fisher gets tons of complaints when customers begin to suspect that a model is less than straight as advertised. You will have noticed that out gay models, even ones as hot as 'Patrick', tend to have a very short tenure. Damon Phoenix believes that he was let go because viewers found him too 'femme'. And Logan went on a hiatus when he came under suspicion.

Logan: gay, straight, bi -- these terms are all too confining for him. Perhaps 'pansexual', 'libidinous', or even 'priapic' might be better. The boy just loves to get off

I think Patrick is among the hottest of the hot -- far hotter than the nearly lifeless 'TJ'.

 

[Raven03]

Re: Corbin Fisher

I dont know which models they were but he stated that it has happened. It just confirms that some of these so called straight guys are not so straight after all. While some of these sites may have been misled by the models themselves some know for a fact their true sexuality but market them as straight because it sells if it is convincing.

As for gay for pay models some seem to like them. Others like Micheal Lucas isnt too fond of them. Even some popular gay models stated that they'd rather work with another gay/bi guy. It adds to a scene when can see that two people are into each other and not just doing it for the money. There are a few straight guys who seem to enjoy it abit but some not so much which can make things suck.

 

[corey26]

Re: Corbin Fisher

it was posted on here that dawson, ryan ii and especially lucas wasn't into the kissing, while check out dirk and lucas vids thay look pretty into each other to me, also what about cade and ryan

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Re: Corbin Fisher

There are a few straight guys who seem to enjoy it abit but some not so much which can make things suck.

You know, this observation may be why Corbin Fisher is starting to loose its appeal for me. I watch these guys enough times, and once the initial thrill is gone the blinders come off. They really don't seem like they're having as much fun as they could be.

Also, as has been pointed out many times on this site, the black leather couches have got to become history. If he wants to make it at least a tad credible, they need to go back to the bedroom.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Re: Corbin Fisher

Seriously, though, don't confuse sex with sexual orientation(s).

Thank you!

 

[shotglass]

Re: Corbin Fisher

Don't know about CF's latest guys. Vince and Jack. Looks like he's going in another direction. Kinda beefy guys. Guess it's so long Hot College Jock type.

 

[corey26]

Re: Corbin Fisher

a friend of mine told me that he read somewhere that a lot of corbin fisher models are real life couples. does anybody have any opinions ?

 

[shotglass]

Re: Corbin Fisher

Hey Guys, Those that would like to see Dawson, better check him out on ACS again. He's this weeks guy.

I remember when he did his Mr. Pinky video last year. He looked right into the camera and said I'm here to keep you guys happy. I guess that was last Dec. and now this Dec. he's changed his mind and would rather keep CF happy on the ACS site.

Can't miss something you can't see. So no need to sign back up on ACM anytime soon for me.

 

[shotglass]

Re: Corbin Fisher

a friend of mine told me that he read somewhere that a lot of corbin fisher models are real life couples. does anybody have any opinions ?

That was a long time ago when CF first started out. CF used that in his about me section awhile ago. Don't know if he still does. I seriously doubt it now.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Re: Corbin Fisher

Can't miss something you can't see. So no need to sign back up on ACM anytime soon for me.

Are any of us actually paying for the ACS site?

And is it true these women are getting fucked raw and actually taking loads? It it is so, it is so wrong

 

[shotglass]

Re: Corbin Fisher

Are any of us actually paying for the ACS site?

And is it true these women are getting fucked raw and actually taking loads? It it is so, it is so wrong

Good Question Phunk. I've wondered just who is he appealing to with this site.
When I first joined Corbin Fisher over 2 years ago, it was because of the guys.
Logan, Pete, Lucas,Graden and some of the others. Then Dawson came on board and I thought WOW, this is one hot guy. His videos with Logan to me, are still the best of all. Now Logan and Dawson are appearing on ACS most of the time.

As far as getting fucked raw, I don't now. I haven't watched one and don't intend to. That's not what I want to see. But I would assume they're using protection.

It would be nice to hear from those that you ask, "Who is paying for this site"?

 

[ajal]

Re: Corbin Fisher

No protection on ACS. I have a few of the videos.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Re: Corbin Fisher

No protection on ACS. I have a few of the videos.

There has only been on homosexual bareback video on the original ACM site (Dawson/Cody), and I believe that it was not repeated due to a chorus of disapproval on the part of the patrons.

Not only does lack of protection demonstrate a serious disregard for the health of everyone involved -- especially the receiving/female partner -- it speaks to the misogyny that is among the nastiest pieces of gay 'dirty laundry': what's good for the gander isn't good for the goose after all I suspect a lot of the guys who what these videos are living out their own fantasies about seeing these boys BB in male/male situations.

I'm assuming all the female models are 'working girls'. Female escorts and other high end sex industry workers tend to be very knowledgable about safe sex practices: 'no glove, no love' is rule #1. The fact that these women are letting men who have been with several other men (that we know of), indicates that they are not among the elite.

I know the CF people claim everybody gets tested before a shoot, but as most of us know, there is often a considerable lag between infection and seroconversion, during which time one is capable of infecting others. I realize this tirade probably belongs in the 'health and wellbeing' section.

 

[cerisaye]

Re: Corbin Fisher

Since ACS appeared I reckon CF has gone downhill real fast. It annoys me that the established popular models like Logan & Dawson have only done ACS vids lately while over on the main ACM site we get newbies and dud vids- we've had bad lighting and sloppy edits as well as uninspiring pairings. I won't renew my membership unless things improve.

I agree the double standard regarding condoms is just not acceptable and smacks of nasty mysongny.

I really would like to know who IS paying for ACS? Is it frustrated fans of Logan & Dawson for e.g. who can't see their favourites on ACM therefore they sign up to watch het sex? From what I've seen (no, I didn't pay) the ACS vids are pretty bad, with the standard of female models no no way up to the hunks on the 'good' side of the site.

 

[shotglass]

Re: Corbin Fisher

Since ACS appeared I reckon CF has gone downhill real fast. It annoys me that the established popular models like Logan & Dawson have only done ACS vids lately while over on the main ACM site we get newbies and dud vids- we've had bad lighting and sloppy edits as well as uninspiring pairings. I won't renew my membership unless things improve.

I agree the double standard regarding condoms is just not acceptable and smacks of nasty mysongny.

I really would like to know who IS paying for ACS? Is it frustrated fans of Logan & Dawson for e.g. who can't see their favourites on ACM therefore they sign up to watch het sex? From what I've seen (no, I didn't pay) the ACS vids are pretty bad, with the standard of female models no no way up to the hunks on the 'good' side of the site.

Personally, as a favorite of Logan and Dawson I can assure you I have not and will not pay to see them on ACS. I cancelled my memebership at ACM several months ago and as I've mentioned above see no good reason to re-up until the content of ACM has considerably changed for the better. It's very disappointing and frustarting that CF has allowed his original site to go into the crapper.

 

[UWSMike]

Re: Corbin Fisher

Thanks again Dav.
I agree completely with your synopsis of feeling some sort of heat from these guys.
Not on every shoot- obviously there are going to be some guys who connect more than others, but you can feel the heat, see that they're enjoying themselves.
That's why CF started to surpass SC-- his models clearly seemed to be into each other and enjoying the sex, while SC's were going through the motions.

Now here's what I don't get: why Phunk and others can't accept that (like millions of other closeted guys) a lot of the CF boys may well call themselves straight and continue to date women. But the fact that they're repeatedly bottoming on camera, well, that kind of takes us in another direction.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Re: Corbin Fisher

Thanks again Dav. I agree completely with your synopsis of feeling some sort of heat from these guys. Not on every shoot- obviously there are going to be some guys who connect more than others, but you can feel the heat, see that they're enjoying themselves. That's why CF started to surpass SC-- his models clearly seemed to be into each other and enjoying the sex, while SC's were going through the motions.

Personally, I think Zack, Dylan, Adam, and especially Trevor were doing more than just 'going through the motions' The only thing they didn't do was kiss; and I suspect this was Sean Cody's editorial decision (kissing would make them 'queer'). I wouldn't be surprised if there was kissing going on off camera. In fact, in one video we see Adam sucking face for a split second.

Some earlier commentator -- I can't recall who -- made the valid observation that it isn't that these models aren't enjoying themselves to some degree: the right buttons are being pushed, etc. It's just that they'd probably be enjoying themselves more with a woman.

Now here's what I don't get: why Phunk and others can't accept that (like millions of other closeted guys) a lot of the CF boys may well call themselves straight and continue to date women. But the fact that they're repeatedly bottoming on camera, well, that kind of takes us in another direction.

I've said this many times before: the ability to enjoy anal/prostate stimulation and homosexuality are not correlates! I know pleanty of homos for whom bottoming is just a pain in the ass; and the arsenal of toys in a geisha's pleasure chest speaks to the enjoyment some straight men receive from anal/prostate stimulation.

Also, I think people as little as 10 years younger than myself are much more open minded about sex and sexuality. Conservative political/social climate notwithstanding, they have been sensitized about variation in human sexuality ('pleiomorphism') in the same way that my cohort was about racism. I don't know what they are being taught in school, but many of the shows they watch have sympathetic gay characters. I think they can better appreciate that fooling around with another person of the same sex doesn't necessarily make one gay, or even bi. Don't slap confining labels on them. Just let the children play