Corbin Fisher (Merged Thread)

[Clooneyesque]

Re: Corbin Fisher

One thing I find interesting in this whole "gay or not" argument is the vehemence in which the (presumably) gay poster will insist a performer is straight. People talk all the time about how gay men will fantasize about an assumed "straight" person being gay as just wishful thinking, but I think the opposite is just as true, if not even more so. A lot of gay guys obviously have a deep need to believe in the whole gay/straight label, and many get off only if they believe that a performer only likes females, which means in real life they wouldn't have a chance with these guys. I won't go into the whole self-loathing implications this raises, however, if the condom fits . . .

If you look at other forum sites, especially ones that have a strong female following, you will notice that if there is any gossip about a hot male celebrity being in the closet, you will see a swarm of angry females denying it in no uncertain terms. It's like, take away my fantasy and I'll kill you.

Also, in regards to Fratmen, I've read a few post from Soilwork who works for them behind the scenes that some of their models are actually gay as well.
A lot of them are laughing their heads off behind the cameras because they've got everyone fooled that they're big macho straight dudes.

Use some common sense here, guys. The majority of gay guys out there are probably still in the closet -- which means they have a stake in convincing people that they only like women. It makes you think these so called gay for pay models are none too bright. Wouldn't it be easier to convince people you're straight if you didn't fuck, suck and kiss another guy and display it for all the world to see?

 

[miztab13]

Re: Corbin Fisher

The new guy Jeff is really hot! I hope we see him fuck Nick, TJ or Patrick. What the hell happened to Patrick anyway? I miss him.

 

[Aloe]

Re: Corbin Fisher

Jeff may be the hottest looking guy on CF in years. I sure hope he has sex with guys soon. I think it would be wrong to introduce him on the gay site only to have him have sex on the straight site only.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Re: Corbin Fisher

One thing I find interesting in this whole "gay or not" argument is the vehemence in which the (presumably) gay poster will insist a performer is straight. People talk all the time about how gay men will fantasize about an assumed "straight" person being gay as just wishful thinking, but I think the opposite is just as true, if not even more so. A lot of gay guys obviously have a deep need to believe in the whole gay/straight label, and many get off only if they believe that a performer only likes females, which means in real life they wouldn't have a chance with these guys. I won't go into the whole self-loathing implications this raises, however, if the condom fits . . .

It's funny, the position you describe above was my original position on these sites. All the stuff they do -- how could they not be gay? Moreover, I agreed (and still agree) that the popularity of 'straight' models doing gay porn among gay men is a projection of internalized homophobia.

As I said earlier, nobody wanted these guys to be gay more than I. God, it's like seeing every jock I secretely drooled over in high school have hot homosex, and allowed me to think that perhaps they too were gay. However, once I corrected for my own wish fulfillment (and the thrill/novelty of the sites had worn off for me), I really began to believe that most of these guys are probably more straight than gay.

These guys are getting paid pretty well for perfoming, and are maybe getting a naughty little thrill out of it. Somebody in this thread has suggested that many of them are exhibitionist, and I wholeheartedly agree with that. Therefore, the possibility of being seen by friends or acquaintances isn't a huge issue for them. Perhaps they even invite it. And perhaps too they are secure enough in their baseline heterosexuality that they know taking it up the butt on the web for money isn't going to change that.

I do admit that there are definitely some models who are at least 'curious', and use the paycheck as a rationalization to experment. But I don't think that's the bulk of them.

These days, I'm finding 'Active Duty' and other military sites much more interesting and erotic. By comparison, Sean Cody and Corbin Fisher seem overly sanitized. 'Dawson' and 'Lucas' seem positively fey when compared to any one of Dink's boys. The fact that some of these guys have actually been in Iraq or Afghanistan makes them all the more sexy. In fact, I think an Active Duty model was killed in Iraq.

I suspect the incidence of 'curious' models may be somewhat higher on the military sites, but then I suspect that this curiosity is engendered by prolonged exposure to 'gender-intensive' environments, such as basic training, a barracks, and especially a combat unit. In this regard these guys are like prison fairies. Once they are back in a pussy-rich milieu, most of them won't give dick a second thought.

I have never said that these guys aren't having a good time; rather that I think they'd be having a better time if they were playing with women. That, to my thinking, makes them basically heterosexual.

 

[yuty]

Re: Corbin Fisher

What I find confusing is that if the Corbin Fisher models have sex with guys (especially bottoming) than it is inviable proof for their homosexuality. However if the same said guy has sex with girls on ACS numerous times *coughDawsoncough* then it is written off as still being in the closet....

I don't know about you but Dawson and Logan eats pussy pretty enthusiastically....

Their sexual orientation is unknown to us.

What people really don't get is that it is their JOB. They're WORKING. Sex is WORK for them.

I have a winter break job of waiting....but it sure as hell doesn't mean I like serving people.

Dawson and the other model's sexual orientations are unknown to us. They're getting paid to have sex with any person they're ordered to have sex with.

And we have to consider the possibility that GAY Corbin Fisher Models may be paid to have sex with women in order to withhold the "straight college boy" appeal to its subscribers.

It think they have gay, bisexual and straight models. Straight men are paid to have sex with women and men. Gay men are paid to have sex with women and men. It's all money just the same. Bisexual men are paid to have sex with women and men (they get easier obviously).

What people are forgetting is that nearly every Corbin Fisher model has had sex with men AND women. This justifies my reasoning that it's a JOB. We may not like to do a particular aspect of a job (I pity the poor straight men forced to eat ass and the poor gay men forced to eat pussy) but we do it anyway for the paycheck.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Re: Corbin Fisher

What I find confusing is that if the Corbin Fisher models have sex with guys (especially bottoming) than it is inviable proof for their homosexuality. However if the same said guy has sex with girls on ACS numerous times *coughDawsoncough* then it is written off as still being in the closet....

hear, hear!

I don't know about you but Dawson and Logan eats pussy pretty enthusiastically....

Logan's also a pretty enthusiastic cocksucker and kisser of both sexes, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was genuinely bisexual. However with regard to him I find that term too confining. He's pansexual -- a little horndog

What people really don't get is that it is their JOB. They're WORKING. Sex is WORK for them.

Again, hear, hear!! Only I would add the caveat that very few models make a living from porn exclusively.

I have a winter break job of waiting....but it sure as hell doesn't mean I like serving people.

I suspect these models have a higher degree of job satisfaction Like I said, I don't think they are not enjoying themselves; rather that they'd be enjoying themselves more with a woman.

And we have to consider the possibility that GAY Corbin Fisher Models may be paid to have sex with women in order to withhold the "straight college boy" appeal to its subscribers.

I think this is definitely the case with 'Brent', and also I suspect 'TJ'. The more I see of TJ, the more I think he's probably just another pretty boi Abercrombie twinkie.

(I pity the poor straight men forced to eat ass and the poor gay men forced to eat pussy)

Something tells me that it's probably more difficult for the straight guys to eat ass than it is for the gay ones to munch rug. I'm pretty much 100% gay. I've munched on rug and have found it quite enjoyable I suspect some of the straight take an anti-emetic, like phenagren, before they go down on Browntown.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Re: Corbin Fisher

What the hell happened to Patrick anyway? I miss him.

Allegedly expelled from CFU for messing around with Logan off camera.

 

[chastay]

Re: Corbin Fisher

I do read the threads on this "gay or straight or bi" issue because I find the dialogue kind of interesting; but, honestly, whether these guys are gay or staight doesn't really influence my enjoyment of the content. To me it's all about their looks, attitude, etc. If I find them physically appealing, that's all that matters to me. Does anyone else feel this way?

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Re: Corbin Fisher

If I find them physically appealing, that's all that matters to me. Does anyone else feel this way?

Well, I don't think any of us would be engaging in these speculations if we didn't find them attractive in the first place.

Personally, I could give a rat's ass about Dirk's orientation because I don't find him attractive. Others feel differently.

It's important to keep in mind that the brain is the greatest sex organ. We see someone we find attactive and we start to get ideas.

Also, I find this whole amateur/fratboy 'gay for pay' phenomenon very interesting, both for the models and for its patrons. Obviously, they are keying in to something that mainstream producers like Falcon and Bel Ami are missing.

 

[Aloe]

Re: Corbin Fisher

Phunkspunk please stop saying that these guys are getting paid pretty well. They are not. The typical price for a scene in gayporn is between 500 and 800 dollars. Even is Corbin and Sean Cody paid 1000 bucks I hardly say that that's enough to show yourself having gay sex for all the world to see.

Also how do you think Corbin finds these guys? Most of the guys find him not the other way around. Besides if you can comprimise your sexuality for a few hundred bucks you weren't that straight to begin with anyway.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Re: Corbin Fisher

Phunkspunk please stop saying that these guys are getting paid pretty well. They are not. The typical price for a scene in gayporn is between 500 and 800 dollars. Even is Corbin and Sean Cody paid 1000 bucks I hardly say that that's enough to show yourself having gay sex for all the world to see.

Also how do you think Corbin finds these guys? Most of the guys find him not the other way around. Besides if you can comprimise your sexuality for a few hundred bucks you weren't that straight to begin with anyway.

Why is it so important for you that they be gay? I wish that they were, but I really just don't think they are. Trust me, realizing that most of the models are straight has caused it to lose much of its appeal for me.

Just look at the way most of them kiss, or for that matter do everything. It's so prefunctory. Most of them are just going through the motions, especially the veterans.

Payscale: the article I read from the Chalotte Observer on the 'Active Duty' court martials mentioned that the paratrooper models got paid $2,000 per video. I don't think Dink Flamingo is running a charitable operation. There's a lot of money in on-line porn. Probably more than in mainstream porn.

However for the sake of argument, let's say these guys get about $500-1000/scene and a trip to Florida out of it. Figure they do 3 or 4 shoots during the week. Maybe they get to fuck a babe, too. That's not bad.

I honestly don't think the exposure bothers them all that much.

Actually, I think Corbin Fisher finds most of his guys these days. 'Dawson', for example, was on the sporno 'All American Guys' site prior to being on Corbin Fisher. His page has since been removed from that site. I suspect AAG doesn't like its models doing real porn.

 

[freedom]

Re: Corbin Fisher

Allegedly expelled from CFU for messing around with Logan off camera.

Why would that get him expelled? I've seen Patrick on C1R.com billed as "Patrick Fisher" (no joke). He's in "Knob Bobbin'".

 

[UWSMike]

Re: Corbin Fisher

Why is it so important for you that they be gay? I wish that they were, but I really just don't think they are. Trust me, realizing that most of the models are straight has caused it to lose much of its appeal for me.

Just look at the way most of them kiss, or for that matter do everything. It's so prefunctory. Most of them are just going through the motions, especially the veterans.

I'll throw the question back at you: why is it so important for you that they be straight?

You spend an awful lot of time and effort proclaiming their straightness on these boards.

Why? Why the obsession? You seem like a nice enough guy, intelligent, with a good job. Why the obsession with amateur porn stars?

As I've told you before, Phunk, there's choice involved here. They CHOOSE to be gay porn models. And the $4K they get from a week of shooting isn't really a reason. If they're really into exhibitionism, they can make slightly less from sites like Soilworks where they don't have to have sex at all.

Or to look at it another way, how many "straight" guys have you slept with. Guys who date women, self-identify as straight, but have slept with enough men to make that nothing more than a self-deception.

You keep pointing to the guys from Active Duty as if soldiers couldn't possibly be gay or in the closet.

But ask yourself, if you were straight, of all the things you could do for a thousand dollars, why would sucking another guys dick on camera for all the world to see, kissing him and then eating his ass out, maybe even getting fucked by him-- why would that be the thing you chose to do?

 

[djstud]

Re: Corbin Fisher

Dawson's page may not be on AAG, but his pics are still there.

 

[miztab13]

Re: Corbin Fisher

Allegedly expelled from CFU for messing around with Logan off camera.

Oh, lol, that sucks. He was really hot. Why would Corbin expel him for messing around with Logan off camera? These guys probably mess around with each other off camera all the time.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Re: Corbin Fisher

I'll throw the question back at you: why is it so important for you that they be straight?

It's not important for me that they be straight. It's just my impression that they are. This isn't to say that they don't enjoy their work to some extent, rather that they'd enjoy it more if it they were doing it with a woman. I'm sure the fact that their doing something a little nasty and taboo has something to do with their motivation, too. But I'm fairly certain that sans the financial incentive most of them wouldn't be sucking cock on camera. I actually find that very sad. It has deprived the site of its erotic allure for me.

I have come to prefer the military sites because I think the homoeroticism is more genuine. I'd even concede that most of the models are at least curious, for reasons explained in an earlier post. Also, they are more honest: the guys actually admit to liking what they do. When Chaz says to Dean 'give it to me, poppi . . . you sexy man beast!' I really thinks he means it, and it's incredibly hot. Even Dawson, Logan, and Mr. Pinky seems pretty tepid next to that. However, I still would bet that even a 'cum guzzlin' bitch' like Chaz would rather be playing with a babe. He's just a dirty, dirty boy -- kinda like Caligula

And some of the models willingly admit to being gay or bi: Shane says his favorite thing to do is suck cock: 'I could suck dick all night'. He's got his clothes on when he says this and it still makes me bust a nut!

The one thing I don't like about the military sites is the huge amount of barebacking. Perhaps it's a soldier-trust thing. Whatever. With guys that hot, I can't see how raw adds anything.

You spend an awful lot of time and effort proclaiming their straightness on these boards.

Why? Why the obsession? You seem like a nice enough guy, intelligent, with a good job. Why the obsession with amateur porn stars?

Like I said, I'm fascinated (the latin root of which means 'phallic charm' -- I kid you not) by the 'amateur/fratboy' sites, and the whole 'gay for pay' phenomenon. Perhaps I was living vicariously through the Sean Cody and Corbin Fisher boys: they were having the sex life I didn't start having until I was out of college.

If they're really into exhibitionism, they can make slightly less from sites like Soilworks where they don't have to have sex at all.

Logan (aka 'Wes') did. We live in jaded times, to say the least, and perhaps there just isn't the same frisson of taboo from jacking off on camera. Or maybe they don't pay as well.

Or to look at it another way, how many "straight" guys have you slept with. Guys who date women, self-identify as straight, but have slept with enough men to make that nothing more than a self-deception.

I've been with a few men who were basically straight, and I believe them. In a lot of ways they're better in bed than gays: they are certainly less demanding.

You keep pointing to the guys from Active Duty as if soldiers couldn't possibly be gay or in the closet.

Oh, I never denied that some of them couldn't be, just as I conceded that a few of Fisher's 'straight studs' were actually exploring/transitioning (Brent, TJ).

Keeping in mind that I hate categories like 'bi', as I said in an earlier post, I think gender-intensive enviroments can foster curiosities. And I also concede that the military attracts a lot of 'male identified' homosexuals: homos who don't identify with the gay scene, who can't tell Prada from D&G nor would ever care to! They enlist in the absurd anticipation that the military will somehow 'whoop the queer' out of them, and end up connecting with guys just like them (the late Randy Shilts' paradigm, not mine). As someone who finds the gay scene insipid at best, I have nothing but sympathy for them. In fact, sometimes I think the service might just be homo heaven: no queens.

But ask yourself, if you were straight, of all the things you could do for a thousand dollars, why would sucking another guys dick on camera for all the world to see, kissing him and then eating his ass out, maybe even getting fucked by him-- why would that be the thing you chose to do?

I just don't think the exposure's an issue for them. It's the very fact that they do so much (or perhaps take take direction so well is a better way to put it) that makes me more convinced that they are primarily straight: the particular acts don't have the same gravitas for them as they do for gay men. They're just having some dirty fun. But at the end of the day, most of them will end up with women. Ideally, sexuality is determined by whom one ends up falling in love with, and I don't anticipate ever seeing Logan and Dawson exchaning vows down the block from me at Cambridge City Hall.

The one thing nobody has mentioned in this thread is the degree to which contolled substances might be employed to overcome a model's inhibition. The Active Duty guys who were court martialled admitted to 'Dutch Courage' in the form of weed, coke, and speed. Corbin Fisher has all these supposedly 18 and 19 year old guys drinking in his jacuzzi. '19' year old Dawson and '18' year old Cory each take a shot of bourbon before fucking. One can only speculate as to what else in they had on board.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Re: Corbin Fisher

Jeff may be the hottest looking guy on CF in years. I sure hope he has sex with guys soon. I think it would be wrong to introduce him on the gay site only to have him have sex on the straight site only.

He kinda looks like a Logan replacement. I haven't seen his video yet, as I let my subscription lapse. The preview pic w/the soccer gear looks hot, though.

That's CFs MO these days: get you into the guy on the one site, and then lure you into coughing up the change for the other. I ain't buying it.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Re: Corbin Fisher

Oh, lol, that sucks. He was really hot. Why would Corbin expel him for messing around with Logan off camera? These guys probably mess around with each other off camera all the time.

Also, 'Patrick' seems to have moved on: he works for 'Boyfun' as 'Caden Ford', and also Channel 1, as somebody has pointed out. I don't think CF likes his models working for other companies.

As has been pointed out in other threads, gay-identified models have a short tenure @ CFU. I understand that there are two reasons for this: 1) a lot of you boys don't like seeing 'faggots' on the site, and 2) they move on to greener pastures. Of course the latter suggests that the out gay models get paid considerably less than the 'straight studs'. As in hetero porn, getting to play with a hottie is considered part of their payment.

 

[jaxon29]

Re: Corbin Fisher

If Patrick was messing around with Logan off camera, why should CF care? And if he was, it would mean Logan is gay or probably bi since he has been on ACS.

For some reason, Active Duty is and has been my favorite since I discovered it several years ago. I just love those guys and have a lot of their vids.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Re: Corbin Fisher

If Patrick was messing around with Logan off camera, why should CF care? And if he was, it would mean Logan is gay or probably bi since he has been on ACS.

That was just a rumor I'd heard. I probably shouldn't have posted it here.

I would guess that Logan is bi, or just horny as shit.