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Corbin Fisher (Merged Thread)

Re: Corbin Fisher

First post here, but this ongoing debate has always intrigued me. I subscribe to CF and have my own opinions regarding the sexuality of the models. Like many others, I think sexuality in a certain percentage of people can be very fluid. There are others who know exactly who they are sexually from the moment the hormones start pumping as a pre-teen.

I personally believe that many of these models consider themselves straight and actually are straight. But, IMHO, straight in the year 2007 is a little bit different than it was even fifteen or twenty years ago. No doubt many of these guys have grow up on internet porn, perhaps even from an impressionable young age. It's out there, you can see an awful lot for free and young boys with their own computers and internet access like to look. And if they're looking for straight porn, they probably came across a fair amount of gay porn along the way, as well as all the other crazy stuff that's out there. (Imagine the curiosity and confusion that a 12-year old boy might experience looking at his first tranny site).

When you're young and stupid and still trying to figure sex out, looking at gay porn might just open your mind to a whole new spectrum of sexual pleasure that you might not have considered before. As you get older you realize that pleasure can come in a lot of different packages and one of them might be with a member of the same sex. Does this make you gay? Maybe, ten or twenty years ago, it did. But as minds begin to open to different experiences, I'm not sure that the same old labels apply. In the beginning, sex is all about pleasure for most people. But sooner or later, it becomes about intimacy and commitment and, in my opinion, who you choose at that point is how the label becomes more firmly attached.

I would hope the gay community would be thrilled to see a younger generation of men becoming more open to new experiences and not try to force every young man into chosing one side or the other. Whether the CF guys identify as straight or gay or bi, they are obviously unconcerned about what other people have to say regarding their sexuality. And being seen as gay by others doesn't bother them. In truth, the only one who seems to be overly concerned about their "straightness" is CF himself, and that's a marketing-driven ploy.

For these guys, the lines are blurry. And it's not just on the male side anymore. Do I think that all the college age girls having sex with other college age girls on the "Girls Gone Wild" videos are lesbians? No. They're just pushing the boundaries and blurring the lines a little. There is a segment of this college-age generation that revels in the fact that they can experiment without being labeled -- and they do.

The more the lines get blurred, the more it won't make any difference to society if you're gay or straight or in between. Or what you enjoy in the privacy of your own bedroom. Dare I hope that this country might someday escape the Puritan chains that have been repressing us sexually for four hundred years?

To make one further point, before I go back to lurking, I have always been of the opinion that young, horny straight men will do just about anything to get off, including having sex with other young, horny, straight men. If there's money thrown their way to do it, then all the better. When I saw this video, I felt even more sure of my opinion. Here's a young horny self-professed straight guy who fucks a pizza, for free, and posts the homemade video on a public site. Imagine what he might do if CF would wave a thou or two under his nose. Would that automatically make him gay? Would he still consider himself straight? Maybe not. But who cares. He's just taking advantage of an opportunity to make a little cash and get off along the way. And blurring the lines even further.

http://www.queerclick.com/archive/2007/01/richard_leigh.php#comments
 
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I personally believe that many of these models consider themselves straight and actually are straight. But, IMHO, straight in the year 2007 is a little bit different than it was even fifteen or twenty years ago. . .

. . . When you're young and stupid and still trying to figure sex out, looking at gay porn might just open your mind to a whole new spectrum of sexual pleasure that you might not have considered before. As you get older you realize that pleasure can come in a lot of different packages and one of them might be with a member of the same sex. Does this make you gay? Maybe, ten or twenty years ago, it did. But as minds begin to open to different experiences, I'm not sure that the same old labels apply. In the beginning, sex is all about pleasure for most people. But sooner or later, it becomes about intimacy and commitment and, in my opinion, who you choose at that point is how the label becomes more firmly attached. . .

. . . I would hope the gay community would be thrilled to see a younger generation of men becoming more open to new experiences and not try to force every young man into chosing one side or the other. Whether the CF guys identify as straight or gay or bi, they are obviously unconcerned about what other people have to say regarding their sexuality. And being seen as gay by others doesn't bother them. In truth, the only one who seems to be overly concerned about their "straightness" is CF himself, and that's a marketing-driven ploy. . .

. . . I have always been of the opinion that young, horny straight men will do just about anything to get off, including having sex with other young, horny, straight men. If there's money thrown their way to do it, then all the better. . . Imagine what he might do if CF would wave a thou or two under his nose. Would that automatically make him gay? Would he still consider himself straight? Maybe not. But who cares. He's just taking advantage of an opportunity to make a little cash and get off along the way. And blurring the lines even further.

You have said everything I could possibly want to say on this topic in posts ad nauseum, and with far greater clarity and eloquence! I don't know why so many guys on here have such a hard time getting their heads around this concept?
 
Re: Corbin Fisher

I see Jeff is already in the new straight video from CF. This is what I feared would happen. I don't understand why you would introduce someone on the gay site only to move him directly to the straight site.

It's not like those of us who have no interest in seeing straight sex are going to join the other site just because of some model. I wish that straight site didn't even exist.
 
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I don't understand why you would introduce someone on the gay site only to move him directly to the straight site.

Easy: he teases you, and then gets you to pay for the straight site. I suppose it's good marketing, but I ain't buyin'[-X
 
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And it's why I canceled my subscription. All of his attractive men- Dawson,Logan, and recent ones, Vince and Jeff have only apperead on teh straight site. I have no intrest in seeing straight sex, period, no matter who the guy is. It's either gay or nothing.
 
Re: Corbin Fisher

And it's why I canceled my subscription. All of his attractive men- Dawson,Logan, and recent ones, Vince and Jeff have only apperead on teh straight site. I have no intrest in seeing straight sex, period, no matter who the guy is. It's either gay or nothing.
I cancelled my membership nearly 3 months ago. But I've continued to read the posts here and would see the preview pages of CF to read about the videos.

For several months I didn't see any reason to comeback. Some of my concerns have been debated and for the most part have been in agreement with me.

Nevertheless I relented and purchased a month's membership to see for myself what was being shown. I have watched almost all the videos for the past 3 months and can honestly say, the only decent videos can be counted on one hand. I just don't understand how CF can allow a once decent, worthwhile site to deteriorate so quickly and for so long, without trying to turn it around.

Ninja hit the nail on the head with his assessment. What made CF successful, the Dawsons, Logans, Ryans and Lucas' all appear on the straight site almost exclusively now.

And for God's sake get rid of the damn black leather couch and ottoman, and return to the bedroom for sex. Since Sept. 1, 2006, only 1 video, the one with Dawson and TJ was done on the bed.

To me it seems awkward for the guys to have sex on the different couches he uses and the camera can't get the best angles.

As far as the actual sex goes, nobody can rim and work an ass over better than Logan. Nobody else is even close. When Logan was in the videos, it was fun to watch and didn't seem so scripted, even if it was. Now all the videos are all vanilla, meaning, same old, samed old.

I beginning to think CF is doing these videos on both sites for Corbin, and not for his real customers, us the members. I seriously doubt I will return after this one month is up. Sadly, there are so many members worldwide who watch CF, that those of us here who speak with sincerity and honestly, are probably just a drop in the bucket to Corbin Fisher, and he could care less what we think!
 
Re: Corbin Fisher

You have said everything I could possibly want to say on this topic in posts ad nauseum, and with far greater clarity and eloquence! I don't know why so many guys on here have such a hard time getting their heads around this concept?

because no matter how many times you repeat yourselves, it won't make sense to the rest of us.

let's break it down:
- i consider myself gay because i have sex with guys
- the CF boys have sex with lots of guys, but they are straight

oh ok. i believe you.

hey Clooneyesque & UWSMike - great posts

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Dearest gribbles and PhunkSpunk,

I'm a 19-21 year old male who secretly enjoys looking at gorgeous naked dudes and naked dudes screwing other naked dudes. I have never really been sexually attracted to females, but I don't find them hideous or unattractive. In fact, I can get off looking at a gorgeous busty woman (probably on acct of the "nurturing allure of breasts") and don't mind eating pussy. Hell, I used to buy and jerk off to Playboys because all my friends were doing it, and I thought I should be doing the same.

But, women just don't satisfy me as much as men. There's nothing like feeling the cock of a beautifully defined man in my mouth and up my ass. I should know. A year ago, I was so curious about gay sex that I took up an offer to be filmed and immortalized on the internet with - yes - a cock in my mouth and up my ass, screaming and yelling in ecstacy.

To date, I've been filmed having sex in over 10 scenes with other hot boys. You can watch these clips over and over on your home computer, share them with friends and my future employers, for years to come. I don't mind that, though, because at least I was able to pay the security deposit on my overpriced apartment.

But as much as I like guys, I have to admit - it's easier to ram a pussy hard, with wreckless abandon, than it is to fuck a guy up the ass. Even though I prefer cock, I can get off fucking pussy - mainly because it's pretty easy (women throw themselves at me) and I don't have to be too careful. When a guy fucks me or when I fuck a guy, I have to make sure I don't ram him too hard up the ass, otherwise he'll be in pain. Also, you gotta use lube with a guy. With women, sometimes I don't even have to use lube. I just stick my dick in, ram it hard til I cum. Like clockwork. Get my rocks off and go.

It makes things a lot easier.

In all honesty, I would love to settle down with a guy and go to bed at night with his big arms wrapped around my lean but muscular body. Oh how I would love that.

But, lately, I've become disillusioned by gay culture - the lack of stability, the lack of long-term relationships, the discrimination, the stereotypes.

I hate those stereotypes. Always have. I don't identify with the gay scene at all - I'm not effeminate, I hate the word "fabulous," and I have not once purchased a pair of Diesel jeans or 2xist underwear. I play tons of sports, drink beer, and eat steak.

At this point, even though I like men so much, I'd like to settle down with a woman, live a less challenging, less judged life, get married, have children the way "nature" intended, and find that ying to my yang - someone who will take care of the kids, cook me dinner when I get home from work, and fill the role of a mother figure for me as I grow old.

Fortunately for me, I came across this statement:

gribbles said:
In the beginning, sex is all about pleasure for most people. But sooner or later, it becomes about intimacy and commitment and, in my opinion, who you choose at that point is how the label becomes more firmly attached.

As much as I love men and cock and having cock up my ass, and as much as I would prefer to emotionally connect with a man than a woman, I'm pleased to hear that my ultimate goal to marry a woman and become a "normal married man" actually makes me straight.

Because God knows I would hate to be a gay guy for the rest of my life and then burn in hell.

Thanks gribbles and PhunkSpunk.

Yours truly,
The Corbin Fisher boys

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Re: Corbin Fisher

i curious is it cade, brent, logan, maybe lucas, TJ or trevor what do you boys thinks?
 
Re: Corbin Fisher

Dav242,

As Gribbles pointed out with a great deal of eloquence, those famous words Mick Jagger first sang them over 40 years ago are just as valid today:

"Kids are different today . . . "
 
Re: Corbin Fisher

i curious is it cade, brent, logan, maybe lucas, TJ or trevor what do you boys thinks?
Hey Corey, Come on now, it isn't any of the above. I believe Dav242 is invoking a bit of sarcasm for the benifit of Gribbles and Phunk. Very clever Dav242.
 
Re: Corbin Fisher

And it's why I canceled my subscription. All of his attractive men- Dawson,Logan, and recent ones, Vince and Jeff have only apperead on teh straight site. I have no intrest in seeing straight sex, period, no matter who the guy is. It's either gay or nothing.

I agree with you 100%

To me it's bait and switch and false advertising. I hope you let him know why you canceled.
 
Re: Corbin Fisher

I know Shotglass, but maybe it's just one of those above coming out without saying the magic words, you can't possibly think all are straight, ie mason, it's got to be hard for them to keep putting on this act
 
Re: Corbin Fisher

I did indeed. As stated before he puts his attrative models on CF then expects us to run over to his other site to see them. We're GAY, that's mean we're not intrested in seeing vince, jeff, dawson, or anyone having with women. I knew the moment he introduced that site CF would go downhill. It's jsut a shame to see one of the best websites slowly decend into one of the worst.
 
Re: Corbin Fisher

Dav242,

As Gribbles pointed out with a great deal of eloquence, those famous words Mick Jagger first sang them over 40 years ago are just as valid today:

"Kids are different today . . . "

Phunk: If you really think that attitudes about sexuality and the acceptability of having "experimenting" by having a dick up your ass have changed that much in the few years since you and I were in college, then, then, as Bill Murray first said 15 years ago "I want some of what you're smoking."

I understand it would make life easier for all of us if this were true for the great mass of 20somethings, but it's so delusional as to be laughable.
 
Re: Corbin Fisher

Derek and Lucas

I must say I love Lucas and this Derek kid is growing on me too! I would not have thought of this pair, but it works, THIS IS A HOT ONE !
 
Re: Corbin Fisher

Wasnt sure I would like the beefed up Lucas until I saw him in the vid..all I can say is bring him on...he can work my ass anytime..lol
 
Re: Corbin Fisher

Ben and Spencer

They are the new update and it's an okay, but the I prefer to see established stars like cade, lucas and dirk because newbies left to there own vices don't really know what to do.
 
Re: Corbin Fisher

Ben and Spencer

They are the new update and it's an okay, but the I prefer to see established stars like cade, lucas and dirk because newbies left to there own vices don't really know what to do.
I've waited for others opinions on this new video to post, but since none has, except you, here it goes.

I know it must seem like all I do here is to be critical of CF. But when credit is due, I'll mention that too. Not having seen the video first, I saw who was featured and I thought this might be a decent video. So I downloaded it and viewed it. Now guys like Ben and Spencer appeal to me. I think good looking well built guys with natural chest hair are very sexy to me. My first BF looked so much like Ben, just looking at his chest I would think it was him. Although the video was OK, CF to me didn't seem to bring out the best of the guys. This had to be one of shortest duo videos, that CF has posted. It was all over in a little past 16 minutes. There could of been so much more shown, for this to be a very sensual video. But instead he seemed to rush this one through as if he had somewhere more important to be. Perhaps working on a ACS video. The video of Ben with Ryan was so much hotter.

I don't think Corbin really cares to much about ACM anymore. Many of the past few months duo videos have been done by others, than Corbin. I recognize Pete's voice as the one directing these videos. Personally, I'd rather see Pete in front of the camera instead of behind it.

For God's sake I wish he would go back to using the bed for his videos. Sex in bed to me seems so much more hotter. Although there are to many to mention, the video of a young Brent with Mitch in bed was extremely hot.

For what it's worth, Corbin is very good at directing and producing a video. But to me he just doesn't seem to be interested in ACM like he does for ACS.
Who knows, maybe the great CF is really a switch hitter.
 
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