LatinoSTAR
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Yes, Marriage period Sucks, Im Opposed to gay marriage, straight marriage, any type of marriage! Im never getting married and im glad, people are making a mockery of marriage these days
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Could you be friends with someone who opposed gay marriage?
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BigTex
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I am not a die hard gay, i am regular guy who happens to like other guys. But i find hard to listen and be friendly with my straight friends that dont want the same for me that they want for themselfs. Its kind of a 2 way street. But it isnt weather you want to get married or you dont its about equality. Sometimes people on this just type shit and dont even think about it, the above posts. Why would gay people vote against there own kind. Its not about being married, its about having the same rights as everybody else.
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Soilwork
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Fuck no.
Anyone who'd actually vote to have ANY kind of discrimination written into the constitution isn't worth helping out of the way of a speeding car, let alone being friends with.
There's no way I'd ever be on friendly terms with someone who'd vote to keep his "legally better than you" status.
Anyone who'd actually vote to have ANY kind of discrimination written into the constitution isn't worth helping out of the way of a speeding car, let alone being friends with.
There's no way I'd ever be on friendly terms with someone who'd vote to keep his "legally better than you" status.
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Soilwork
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I should point out that I never considered marrying either, but I think it's an option that should be open to me. I think it should be open to ANYONE.
Spellbound
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If my friend was against gay rights, I don't really know why I'd be friends with them in the first place. They support inequality. They support keeping me and others like me down.
BUT maybe through our friendship they can learn to accept gays as normal human beings, deserving of all the rights straights have. So I wouldn't write them off right away.
BUT maybe through our friendship they can learn to accept gays as normal human beings, deserving of all the rights straights have. So I wouldn't write them off right away.
woaini
D.H. WoAiNi K.C.
I have many Christian friends, so I guess I can.
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Soilwork
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I gottta say that I'm blown away by the "oh, I dont want it so nobody else should, either" responses.
Some of you deserve inequality.
Some of you deserve inequality.
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it really is a social issue that has been made into a political issue. i see it more of a none issue that just needs to be handled in a different manner.
of course there is the religious perspective but that does little to resolve the issue as we have already seen.
however now that it has become a political issue i am not sure whether the issue will probably ever be really resolved unlesss state legislatures want and or decide to deal with the issue as a law, and not a constitutional issue.
small views and opinions by the local village idiot.
eM.
I couldn't give a shit about marriage. But that's not what this is really about.
Denying someone what's available to someone else just because of their sexuality is complete and total bullshit.
Guys wanting to marry is just another way of emulating what society has taught us we're "supposed" to do. I see it as a way of imitating what heteros do.
I don't need a piece of paper telling me I'm committed to the guy I love.
Still, denying that option to anyone should not be accepted in any government.
Denying someone what's available to someone else just because of their sexuality is complete and total bullshit.
Guys wanting to marry is just another way of emulating what society has taught us we're "supposed" to do. I see it as a way of imitating what heteros do.
I don't need a piece of paper telling me I'm committed to the guy I love.
Still, denying that option to anyone should not be accepted in any government.
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I've actually, a couple times, been friends with people who were anti-gay AND who know what I am. Not something which I'm in the habit of doing, but statistically it's going to happen since the great majority of people I meet are in situations which do not arise out of sexual preference.
SuperNovaSolarFlare
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Im a little shocked by some of the responses on this board. A gay persons right to marry someone is sonething I take very seriously, because, yea, right now I don't want to get married, but what about 20 years from now? I would want that option to be open to me, and if gay marriage is banned in the constitution, then that will never happen.
Its like a few other people have said, marriage is just being used as a bargaining chip. If we are denied the right to be married, then we are denied social equality, and will always be seen as second class citizens, who are not socially important. If you fall in love with another man, and live together for the rest of your lives, when he dies, you are not leagally able to inherit anything, you are not allowed to manage their burial and you are considered to be a "good friend" when in reality you were lovers. The Rights that marriage allows a couple will allow gay couples to make these decisions, should they arrise, and will also entitle the couple to tax breaks, ethical rights and other legal factions that only straight couples have now. SO it dosen't matter if you support marriage, or don't want to get married, your right to be married extends beyond the idea of matrimony, and into the area of rights and equality.
As far as friends are concerned, well, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I feel that if they say that a gay relationship is not as worthy as a straight relationship, then that are in turn saying that my love for another man is not as good as their love for a woman. Love is the same no matter what gender you are, and it should be seen the same way in society. I'd still be their friend, but I would make my feelings know, in the hopes that they see things my way.
(sorry for the rant, but i'm actually writing a speech for a class about gay marriage, so I've been researching it)
Its like a few other people have said, marriage is just being used as a bargaining chip. If we are denied the right to be married, then we are denied social equality, and will always be seen as second class citizens, who are not socially important. If you fall in love with another man, and live together for the rest of your lives, when he dies, you are not leagally able to inherit anything, you are not allowed to manage their burial and you are considered to be a "good friend" when in reality you were lovers. The Rights that marriage allows a couple will allow gay couples to make these decisions, should they arrise, and will also entitle the couple to tax breaks, ethical rights and other legal factions that only straight couples have now. SO it dosen't matter if you support marriage, or don't want to get married, your right to be married extends beyond the idea of matrimony, and into the area of rights and equality.
As far as friends are concerned, well, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I feel that if they say that a gay relationship is not as worthy as a straight relationship, then that are in turn saying that my love for another man is not as good as their love for a woman. Love is the same no matter what gender you are, and it should be seen the same way in society. I'd still be their friend, but I would make my feelings know, in the hopes that they see things my way.
(sorry for the rant, but i'm actually writing a speech for a class about gay marriage, so I've been researching it)
to be honest those are the people i want to be friends with. not because i agree or because i think they're wounderful people, but because the reasone they don't like us is because they don't know us.
most of my friends were against gay marriage before they met me. those are the people who have to change through personal experience. most people are not going to be changed by the people standing on podiums giving equal rights speeches. (although a good deal of them are, so those people should keep at it). but most people are change by the people they know, they are changed by seeing things first hand. so if every gay man found 5 friends that were against gay marriage and showed them that our love is just as good as theirs, then one by one the world will change.
most of my friends were against gay marriage before they met me. those are the people who have to change through personal experience. most people are not going to be changed by the people standing on podiums giving equal rights speeches. (although a good deal of them are, so those people should keep at it). but most people are change by the people they know, they are changed by seeing things first hand. so if every gay man found 5 friends that were against gay marriage and showed them that our love is just as good as theirs, then one by one the world will change.
Spellbound
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luismex911
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YES man, everyone has the right to think whatever they want
SilverRRCloud
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I have learnt to make friends with people, whose views and opinions greatly vary from those of my own.
Actually, I can make friends with people with whom I very much disagree in very many issues.
Friendships are not based on the principal agreement on political, social, economic and ideological issues that you have with your friends. Friendships are based on the idea of reliability and willingness to reach out and help your friend in the time of need, regardless of his and your situation at any given moment.
I have made friends with people, who held vastly different views and positions from the views I represented. It has never harmed our friendship in the least.
Friendships are above beliefs.
SC
Actually, I can make friends with people with whom I very much disagree in very many issues.
Friendships are not based on the principal agreement on political, social, economic and ideological issues that you have with your friends. Friendships are based on the idea of reliability and willingness to reach out and help your friend in the time of need, regardless of his and your situation at any given moment.
I have made friends with people, who held vastly different views and positions from the views I represented. It has never harmed our friendship in the least.
Friendships are above beliefs.
SC