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Could you be friends with someone who opposed gay marriage?

Would you be friends with someone who opposed gay marriage?

  • Yes

    Votes: 106 54.9%

  • No

    Votes: 87 45.1%
  • Total voters
    193
Friends with someone who opposes Marriage? yes. Friends with someone who opposes civil unions or equal rights, no.

Why? Marriage has to much of a religious connection, and the friends I have that oppose marriage do so based on their religion; they have no problems with civil unions.

IMO the govt. shouldn't recognize "marriage", they should leave that to the religions. All the rights that are provided to "married" couples should be given to those that have been unionized.

When I think of gay rights I look at it as someone above me said... I want the legal contract and everything the govt recognizes from it. I could care less about the religious aspect of it. If we have to take "marriage" without it actually being called marriage, that's fine by me; as long as I get all the rights from it.

On the other hand if you oppose civil unions/equal rights even after meeting me, then obviously you think your rights, your relationships, and your love is better/more important than mine... then we have a problem.
 
eh, I can be aquaintances with them.

usually it works out that I'm not really friends with anyone like that from the get go, too many personality conflicts.
 
I don't believe in the whole word "marriage" either. as long as gay couples have afforded the same legal rights as a 'married' couple, then thats all that needs to be.

for example, when it comes to right to die issues, when there is no hope: ie: being kept alive by machines, ones partner should be able to have the say so to pull the plug.
 
Well, I would be friends with them still just like I have friends that are Republicans. However, I would hope that over time, they would at least see the errors of their ways. Equality is about fairness and I will never settle for anything less than that.

If the person did not change the way they view it, honestly, I would not feel as close to that person and I would lose some respect for them. That does not mean that I would not talk with them.
 
My friends are entitled to their own opinions, and I will respect them for it. I may or may not agree with them, but it has to be a HUGE difference for me to de-friend them.
 
Yes. What do I care if someone else opposes gay people marrying. That's their opinion, and they have a right to it.

This is such an odd thing to say. Of course we care about other people's opinions and judge them accordingly. If someone told me that they thought all Jews should be killed, I wouldn't shrug my shoulders and say, well, he's entitled to his opinion, but we can still be friends.

This is not to say that being pro-genocide and being anti-same-sex marriage is the same thing, but of course everyone is entitled to their opinion. So what? Every belief we hold is an opinion. People are all equal, but that doesn't mean I have to treat all possible opinions as if they're equal. Some people's opinions are, in fact, really disgusting.
 
I'm sorry, but until just a couple of years ago, most gays would never have supported "gay marriage", outside of a few conservatives like Andrew Sullivan. Certainly, none of the major gay groups like HRC, etc. supported the idea.

At that time it was still conceivable to visualize moving beyond "straight" society's concept of coupling....
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Oh, now we shan't all be like Andrew Sullivan! Horror of horrors! :)

Seriously, though, maybe you're right: we should move beyond straight society's conception of coupling. It might be true that marriage is a manifestation of patriarchy, capitalism, flat-earthism, and all of the evils in the world; but that's not a reason to oppose gay marriage.

Don't want to get married? Fine. Don't. Legalized gay marriage is not mandated gay marriage.

Want to abolish marriage? That's fine too. But so long as straight marriage is legal, the absence of a gay alternative is discrimination written into law, and such inequality has to go.

Onto the topic: would I be friends with someone against gay marriage? Yes. I would be disappointed; but I believe the only way, ultimatly, to change someone's mind is on the micro level. If someone knows me, and likes me, I can hope that someday a light will go off and they'll say "hey, there's no reason Zing shouldn't have the same rights I do."
 
If the issue wasn't a big deal to them then why would they even bother to vote against it at all?

I think that's an interesting caveat for me. It's not the opinion, necessarily, that I think would rule someone out as a friend. It's the action.

If I had a friend whose opinion was that gay marriage should not be legal, but they felt that it wasn't their place to keep it from happening, that would be one thing. But someone who signs a petition, or who votes to prevent gay marriage--that's not just an opinion, that's an action. And it's an action which specifically and directly affects me, and harms me.

I could be friends with someone who really wanted my car. I couldn't be friends with someone who tried to steal my car. I'd actually have a lot of respect for a friend who said, "While I personally oppose gay marriage, I'm not going to vote against it, because it's none of my business."
 
Only if they let me fuck them in the ass.
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This cracks me up!

I think a lot of guys are completely missing the point here... :\

It's not about you and your friends having different political views, it's about them seeing you as less 'deserving' than they are. If the issue wasn't a big deal to them then why would they even bother to vote against it at all?
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Actually.. This is a question asking for different opinions of different people. Instructing someone to read the question a certain way or to think of something in a certain way nulls out the personal part.

Although the point you bring up is true and a good point... I would consider it incorrect to think that someone missed the point.. whatever comes to mind is their point.

Sorry for the rant... I just hate when someone leads another to a certain answer.

Would I be friend with someone who opposed gay marriage? Hell yeah. I am sure that is not the only issue we disagree on. Are women friends with men who think that they are less deserving and need to act as a servant.. YEP -- they are usually married to them.
 
studybuddy said:

If I had a friend whose opinion was that gay marriage should not be legal, but they felt that it wasn't their place to keep it from happening, that would be one thing. But someone who signs a petition, or who votes to prevent gay marriage--that's not just an opinion, that's an action. And it's an action which specifically and directly affects me, and harms me.

I could be friends with someone who really wanted my car. I couldn't be friends with someone who tried to steal my car. I'd actually have a lot of respect for a friend who said, "While I personally oppose gay marriage, I'm not going to vote against it, because it's none of my business."
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ok i'll bump you

and the answer is no they would not be my friend.
because they made it clear that they don't value me enough to make sure that i wasn't being denied the same rights he/she enjoys.

shouldn't friends have mutual respect and love for each other?
 
I value people for their actions, and not for their words. Even when those opinions, and mine do not always chime.

What a boring life it would be, if we all agreed with one, another.

What! No more bitching, or purse fights, on this board. The management would be obliged to close the board.

Just imagine what it would be like here, if metta had nothing to crusade for (or, against).
 
kallipolis said:
I value people for their actions, and not for their words. Even when those opinions, and mine do not always chime.

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okay what about when his actions are to vote against something that would give me the same rights as others?

what does he really think of you?

you know i stopped talking to a friend about a month ago because he walked out of an AA meeting because there were too many gay people there. when i see him at other meetings it's like he has never existed. i just don't need his crap in my life right now
 
PreTTy PeTe said:
okay what about when his actions are to vote against something that would give me the same rights as others?

They are exercising their democratic rights, to vote as their conscience dictates.

Why should I cease to be their friend, because we think differently on gay marriage?

The differences in voting option, does not an enemy make. Unless we want it, this way.

what does he really think of you?

I have friends who disagree with me on many matters. And, I, with them. We still remain friends.

you know i stopped talking to a friend about a month ago because he walked out of an AA meeting because there were too many gay people there. when i see him at other meetings it's like he has never existed. i just don't need his crap in my life right now
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Your choice, to act, as you please. I would never disown you, for your choice, to repay hatred, with more hatred. I would continue to love you.:kiss:
 
^now would you go to his wedding when you are invited?

seeing as he's thinking it's okay to deny the same thing to you

and yes i hate homophobes and seriously don't understand them. as far i'm concerned they can go rot in hell.
 
The right of anyone to oppose equal marriage for gays is limited entirely to saying "No thank you" when they RSVP to the wedding invitation.

But then, if they don't want to be at my wedding because of who we are as a couple, they would not be my friends in the first place.

No, I wouldn't be friends with someone who was opposed to my equality, not if they were religious, not if they were gay, no more than if they opposed interracial marriage.
 
bankside said:
The right of anyone to oppose equal marriage for gays is limited entirely to saying "No thank you" when they RSVP to the wedding invitation.

The voting processes in California, state otherwise.

But then, if they don't want to be at my wedding because of who we are as a couple, they would not be my friends in the first place.

When we choose our friends for their willingness to bend to our values, then we may well discover, that in due course our friends are merely sheep.

No, I wouldn't be friends with someone who was opposed to my equality, not if they were religious, not if they were gay, no more than if they opposed interracial marriage.
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What better way to influence, and persuade people, to our point of view, than to disown them as our friends. What a lost opportunity. I prefer not to dictate to my friends.
 
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