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"Critical Thinking Supressed in Brains of People Who Believe in the Supernatural"

I quote the summation of the captioned article, for it tells us what we already know:

The study also points out that some of the great scientists of our times were also very spiritual men. "Far from always conflicting with science, under the right circumstances religious belief may positively promote scientific creativity and insight," says Jack "Many of history's most famous scientists were spiritual or religious. Those noted individuals were intellectually sophisticated enough to see that there is no need for religion and science to come into conflict."

According to the scientists, the individuals who manage to use both networks and avoid suppression of one or the other are better equipped to understand the world and come up with scientific discoveries.
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Just one example in support of this article's summation was the Belgian Catholic priest, Georges Lemaître who provided us with the Theory of the expansion of the universe otherwise known as The .Big Bang theory.
 
Is moral concern suppressed in individuals who are analytic thinkers?
 
zoltanspawn said:
Is moral concern suppressed in individuals who are analytic thinkers?
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Moral concern and serving the needs, of the needy is best observed in those who think, then act upon their thoughts, evidence that is critical to ones willingness to do more than analyse.
 
Until we figure out where it all came from, the question remains open. Strangely, the more the advanced physicists work at it, the more difficult the answer becomes. We used to think we understood time and space.
 
Benvolio said:
Until we figure out where it all came from, the question remains open. Strangely, the more the advanced physicists work at it, the more difficult the answer becomes. We used to think we understood time and space.
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Uh, "advanced physicists" never thought they understood time and space, that's kinda the point of being an "advanced physicist."
 
This always interests me, since just about every Christian group I've been seriously involved with emphasized the need for critical thinking. It's probably why I have generally been baffled when trying to communicate with more fundamentalist types, who seem to have a special talent for non sequitur.
 
I am interested in this at the moment. Take Scientology, a cult founded by a guy, Ron L Hubbard, who was a science fiction and fantasy writer who comes up with the utterly absurd scientology belief/religion and many people actually believe it!!!! it beggers belief they would sacrifice their life to what is obviously a fiction in its founders mind. So my inquiry is@ how deep does this delusion go? by looking at the scientology cult, and its formation, history, rise to power, can we use this knowledge to also see the more older belief systems like Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc etc etc. But wait, do you think I am leaving the secular beliefs out? Ie materialism, capitalism? Not so. I am just looking at WHY are people are So gullible, and what does it mean to see through these gullible belief systems critically. Where do we find ourselves when we do that?

Most 'atheists', to me, in rejecting such beliefs which they call supernatural yet will totally and uncritically embrace the scientism beliefs which include the myth of mental illness
 
I see it's time for another round of "...Scientism is really a thing..."

"Scientism" is bogus crap made up by people trying to draw specious parallels between an instrument of inquiry, and just believing in unicorns and fairies 'cause that makes us feel all tingly.
 
ludolfo said:
I am interested in this at the moment. Take Scientology, a cult founded by a guy, Ron L Hubbard, who was a science fiction and fantasy writer who comes up with the utterly absurd scientology belief/religion and many people actually believe it!!!! it beggers belief they would sacrifice their life to what is obviously a fiction in its founders mind. So my inquiry is@ how deep does this delusion go? by looking at the scientology cult, and its formation, history, rise to power, can we use this knowledge to also see the more older belief systems like Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc etc etc. But wait, do you think I am leaving the secular beliefs out? Ie materialism, capitalism? Not so. I am just looking at WHY are people are So gullible, and what does it mean to see through these gullible belief systems critically. Where do we find ourselves when we do that?

Most 'atheists', to me, in rejecting such beliefs which they call supernatural yet will totally and uncritically embrace the scientism beliefs which include the myth of mental illness
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Gullibility is not lost on all human beings one time, or another throughout our life. No exceptions.

“Innocence is a kind of insanity”― Graham Greene, The Quiet American
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Mental illness can be viewed as a paradox when understanding that every human person has from time, to time acted in an insane manner sufficient to be labelled an act of insanity. Random acts of insanity might well be evidence of a growing awareness that the wise person prefers to maintain a safe distance from those who dwell in a permanent state of remoteness from reality.
 
kallipolis said:
...Mental illness can be viewed as a paradox when understanding that every human person has from time, to time acted in an insane manner sufficient to be labelled an act of insanity. Random acts of insanity might well be evidence of a growing awareness that the wise person prefers to maintain a safe distance from those who dwell in a permanent state of remoteness from reality.
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And yet there exist physical and structural defects in some people's brains that cause mental illness with no need for recourse to philosophies.
 
Maybe it just makes them feel more secure? The suppression is not a biological issue, just an environmental one... they surround themselves with like minded individuals (i.e. church).
 
offthewall14420 said:
Maybe it just makes them feel more secure? The suppression is not a biological issue, just an environmental one... they surround themselves with like minded individuals (i.e. church).
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I remember a scientific generalization made several years ago called "the bicameral mind." I think the point was that people are biologically wired to perceive, process, and believe the way that they do.
 
Jacquemar said:
I remember a scientific generalization made several years ago called "the bicameral mind." I think the point was that people are biologically wired to perceive, process, and believe the way that they do.
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Are we?

It is also arguable that life's experiences, learning lessons, sculpt the way we perceive, process, and believe.

The different, and differing perceptions of two siblings Christopher Hitchens, and Peter Hitchens is an example that illustrates their individual life experiences resulted in two different perspectives on politics, life, and religion.
 
what are the ROOTS of silly stories people believe in?? get me? I kind think it begins when there is envisioned 'spirit' which is separate from 'matter', nature, and is thought to become trapped. From there these stories come which warn of this and promise a solution to the 'problem'.

So how does this apply to this age of scientism with its mental illness myth? Well regardless of its interpretation of 'spirit' this current toxic myth has done away with any notion OF spirit. Now we are mere chemical machines, and if we are not in step with this insane fkin world, then we are 'chemically imbalanced' and in need of 'treatment' which comes in the form of psychiatric drugs and ECT

The religious era this myth grows out from had already disconnected spirit from natural life, into an 'all good God' transcendent over nature. Any spiritual connection with nature and sexuality was demonized. Once the mindset moves to the secular toxic myth, the same oppressive response to spirit continues. it must be suppressed with drugs. Psychedelics which can liberate spirit are banned
 
No, I don't get you. Mythology has myriad kinds of sources, "Scientism" only exists in the minds of people who think mental illness is a myth.
 
TX-Beau said:
No, I don't get you. Mythology has myriad kinds of sources, "Scientism" only exists in the minds of people who think mental illness is a myth.
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yes you don't get me.......[-X reminding me of the student that keeps coming to class not having remembered what's been gone over and over and overrr before driving teach to kick him the F out :p

you don't get me. That is it.
 
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