DADT repealed!!

[Kyanimal]

By a Senate vote of 63-33! FINALLY!!!

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

 

[Absolut]

Sorry Chaz, but I saw an article about this too, instantly clicked on it, and it was just a vote to proceed to debate the bill

But I will happily bump this many times when (hopefully) it happens!

 

[jizzeater]

I've been watching this. Pretty fucking exciting news! I think this calls for a group hug!

 

[jizzeater]

Sorry Chaz, but I saw an article about this too, instantly clicked on it, and it was just a vote to proceed to debate the bill

But I will happily bump this many times when (hopefully) it happens!

Well, the vote happens tomorrow or Monday, but they only need a simple majority, so it's practically over now.

 

[Kyanimal]

Sorry Chaz, but I saw this too, instantly clicked on it, and it was just a vote to proceed to debate the bill

But I will happily bump this when (hopefully) it happens!

Oh, You're right. It was "only" a vote to clear the procedural hurdle to allowing debate, leading to an actual vote for repeal. Guess my excitement got the better of me!

But, THAT is a HUGE step, which, after the 30hr. debate deadline, just about guarantees the Real repeal!

I can't wait!!

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

 

[hotatlboi]

Cue the Obama bashing that it wasn't soon enough (despite this legislative result being far better).

 

[Absolut]

Well, the vote happens tomorrow or Monday, but they only need a simple majority, so it's practically over now.

One can only hope...

Once the written notice is submitted, 60 days must elapse before "don't ask, don't tell" is officially repealed. During the two-month window, lawmakers are likely to hold hearings to review the Pentagon's policies and procedures for accepting openly gay and lesbian troops, according to congressional aides familiar with the matter.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2010/12/senate_poised_to_end_dont_ask.html

 

[Kyanimal]

One can only hope...



http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2010/12/senate_poised_to_end_dont_ask.html

THANKS! for that link, Abs! It certainly lays out what is yet to come.

But, I think the Hill has been crested (literally), and we're on a roll to Victory!

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

 

[hotatlboi]

You can thank the people that didn't sit back and wait and demanded that they get this done. The people that didn't sit at the back of the bus quietly.

You can also thank Obama for not forcing it like Clinton did and failing.

The president's decision to methodically invest all effort in a permanent legislative process was the right decision and it has led to a much stronger result that will be almost impossible to reverse.

 

[ibill1]

It's live on CSPAN2. Vote to begin sometime today. It says now live at 3pm EST

 

[jizzeater]

Wow, this is moving fast. I guess these senators really want to go home!

 

[Absolut]

One of the comments from the link I posted:

Mama, Mama, hep me hep me! Thars a homosetual in mah barucks, an he gots a gun! An, an, an, Ahm sceered he might touch me and rub some uh dat queer off on me!

 

[frankfrank]

You can thank the people that didn't sit back and wait and demanded that they get this done. The people that didn't sit at the back of the bus quietly.

I don't think that we ever imagined that Joe Lieberman would end up being the most instrumental of anybody, finally getting this thing rolling!!! I think a lot of us, myself included, pretty much thought he had become a full Independent-in-Name-Only, acting more like a Republican.

It helped a LOT that the media finally hopped big time on this issue the past few weeks, mostly favorably, deciding no longer to treat it like the "niche issue" that it was relegated to for so many years.

You can also thank Obama for not forcing it like Clinton did and failing.

The president's decision to methodically invest all effort in a permanent legislative process was the right decision and it has led to a much stronger result that will be almost impossible to reverse.

I also have to say, IN RETROSPECT, that it ends up that Obama took the proper approach on it after all. But it was entirely a gamble, a crap shoot, with a very real risk (even up to last week!) that any legislation on it would fail, with no hope for a revisit for years to come.

Eat THIS, John McCain!

I also heard (for the first time) a couple days ago that Obama had actually made some phone calls to Senators about repeal, which was the first time I'd heard anything about him giving anything more than lip service.

I'm glad to see this happen, and I'm delighted to be proven wrong (well, not FULLY proven yet...but a simple majority now being the threshold, I think it's pretty safe)! I didn't expect to see this passed legislatively in my lifetime, because we all know DAMNED well this would have never passed in January.

 

[Piquechampion]

I just got teary eyed a little.....

Congratulations.....

 

[DeMan06]

pray that Senator John McCain doesn't filibuster the entire appeal.

He can't. They already got the 60+ votes required to end debate so fillibustering is no longer an option. The final vote will be at 3PM est today, with just a simple majority needed to send it on to pres Obama.

 

[Piquechampion]

I love how Murkowski flipped the bird to Palin..... lol.

And I think almost all the female senators voted for the repeal (the Texan senator how did she vote????).

 

[star-warrior]

Finally... congrats folks

 

[bankside]

19 years after Canada did this.
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/11/world/canada-ending-anti-gay-army-rules.html

Assuming the same timescale, you will have equal marriage nation wide only 14 years from now, or 2024. How old will you be then?

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/index.asp

 

[Apollo]

19 years after Canada did this.
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/11/world/canada-ending-anti-gay-army-rules.html

Assuming the same timescale, you will have equal marriage nation wide only 14 years from now, or 2024. How old will you be then?

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/index.asp

For once, can Canada not show its smug face in great moments in history threads?

I mean, great for Canada being ahead of the curve, but geez, we all already knew that, as it is reiterated everyday on this board. This totally ruins the mood.

 

[hotatlboi]

He had enough power to halt the discharges.

His not doing so was part of the deal that allowed this to pass.

A permanent solution (as this was) is better than a temporary one.

Obama pursued the right strategy, and he got the right result, a permanent one.