Dawson-MANIA

[shotglass]

People care about Dawson & Logan and other guys of CF. By the numbers just posted on this thread says that. 39 of us have posted our feelings(myself included several times) and the total of 3027 have read it, since it first went up to the present. In the past 24 hours alone 1025 have shown an interest, some more vocal than others, nevertheless, The CF ACM site is of some importance or else why would we watch and post our thoughts. We read and we post because we care. Last time I checked we are a free country, with rights to freedom of speech. Take out of this suggestion what you want or not, but don't try to limit our right to speak.
I pay a membership just like you gribbles and have every right to express my opinions as I see fit, to try to stir the content of ACM to my liking. It's my right as it is yours and anyone else. I'd like to think we all have at least one thing in common, and that is, we care! Not just some type of idol gossip. Whatever they post on Match.com, true or not is put there by them, or someone representing them. Dawson is from the midwest, that is true, I happen to personally know the state and the city. I won't mention it, but it's out there if you only look. As far as Logan he says he's originally from Texas, but until Tampa, he says he spent the past 8 years in the Seattle area. When he was doing the interviewing on CF, one of the models inadverntly said he was from the Washington state area and Logan ackonwledged he was too. It's this information some of us as members like to know and enjoy these guys so much, I'll say again, WE CARE!

 

[PhunkSpunk]

but you're creeping people out.

Am I creeping any of you out?

Please kindly desist from attacking me personally!

There's a whole world out there west of West End Avenue.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

You're continually posting on here with increasingly convoluted defenses of their straightness, offering detailed psychological analyses (see your posts above) to the point where there's been much private messaging going on trying to figure out if you are Corbin himself.

I think they are primarily straight, do what they do because it's easy money and they don't think about it too much, and are probably high into the bargain. That's pretty simple.

If I were Corbin Fisher, I would not be suggesting that my models were stoners, or that I might be the one abetting their substance abuse.

Why the hell can't we simply agree to disagree? Stop attacking me personally; you're taking all the fun out of this

 

[Apollo]

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[pisces_ken02]

WOW.. people are really obsessed with this "corbin fisher' website. Quite frankly I see nothing attractive about either of them...if they were on the street....I wouldn't even look back.

IMO its pretty stupid on their part to do any gay movies if they don't want to be considered gay. Do these guys ever think what the future will have in store for them??!! I know its quick money, but what if someone finds out they use to get FUCKED IN THE ASS on camera?? Oh the humiliation....

 

[UWSMike]

But back to the Match.com ads. If these were geniune, then now is the time that these boys are going to realize what they've gotten themselves into. How their choice to do porn is going to follow them around for a long time after they quit. And that's kinda sad.

That's my biggest fear with supporting these sites Gribbles-- that these guys are dumb and naive and that Corbin uses a sort of groupthink mentality on them to get them to go along with the program and they don't realize what the greater implications are until it's too late.

Most gay-for-pay guys are total tops in the movies, which is somehow more palatable to women. But these guys have all done many bottoming scenes, plus kissing scenes. And as you note, that's not going to be easy to live down. It's not going to be easy for them to convince any woman that they' straight.


The flip of that argument though is that "Dawson" was a college student (someone on here found a picture of him in a newspaper article) and a fairly involved/bright one. I still say there has to be a reason why these guys choose to do the sort of gay porn that CF does, versus a site like Fratmen or even a straight site.

 

[gribbles]

That's my biggest fear with supporting these sites Gribbles-- that these guys are dumb and naive and that Corbin uses a sort of groupthink mentality on them to get them to go along with the program and they don't realize what the greater implications are until it's too late.

In all honesty, I don't think they do consider the implications. If ANYONE, gay, straight, or bi, considered the implications, you wouldn't do internet porn -- or any porn for that matter.

Though there are some really smart 19 and 20-year olds out there, there are also a huge number who don't give a thought to the future or their own safety. They drink their way through college, they engage in extreme sports without consideration of the ramifications of a head or spinal injury, they take risks driving cars, they dabble in drugs. I personally think doing gay porn is a much better choice than driving a motorcycle off a ramp at 70 MPH and flipping it over three or four times. But that's just me.

How many straight 19-year olds think about settling down, buying a house, and having kids? They want to have FUN!!!! And money buys a helluva lot of fun at that age. For the gay guys on the site, maybe they get off on being the object of someone's fantasy, maybe there's a thrill to that. Or maybe they want some money for a new car. And if the guys are bi, then any woman who comes into their life is going to have to deal, so doing porn in your youth could be explained as expanding your sexual horizons. But until they meet the guy or girl they want to spend the rest of their life with, the money isn't so bad.

I don't have a lot of trouble believing in the whole gay-for-pay idea. We don't think twice about the call girls, strippers, prostitutes, female porno stars, who make their living in the sex trade. Yet we can't get our minds around handsome young guys having gay sex on camera for money??? As "amateur" as these sites claim to be, this is all about the money. If these guys didn't get paid, they wouldn't be knocking down the door to have sex for the cameras. It may have started out as a kick, but after the second or third video, it's all about the paycheck.

BTW, it wouldn't surprise me if both Dawson and Logan are employed by CF behind the scenes as well as in front of the camera. We've seen Pete behind the camera. May explain why they're both living in Tampa? And if this is the case, then they probably aren't worried about how gay porn is going to look on the resume. As for the future wife, she'll get used to a comfortable standard of living, a new designer handbag every month and she'll forget her husband's porno past. Until the minister that their church shakes her husband's hand and accidentally calls him Dawson.

 

[weasley]

seriously, you guys look way too into this. live a little, enjoy what they're showing. Gay, straight, bi are just labels, not entirely accurate anyway. We can't really label others when they probably have a difficult time finding a label that's accurate about them. I think sexuality changes in the course of life, as a bisexual man myself, I believe so. Sometimes I'd have a lousy experience with one sex, and then I'd switch to the opposite sex, vice versa.


ps. is it my imagination or you guys don't like this dawson chap? he seems nice to me.

 

[icarus725]

I love Dawson, his cocky attitude is something i find very hot. That's why I love the "fantasy" (key word) of Straight Guy Sites. Who honestly cares about their sexual idenities other than the "self righteous everyone has to have a label, who won't be happy till the whole world except President Bush admits their gay" crowd?

 

[PhunkSpunk]

In all honesty, I don't think they do consider the implications. If ANYONE, gay, straight, or bi, considered the implications, you wouldn't do internet porn -- or any porn for that matter.

I would go so far as to say that it's the decision to do porn -- have sex in the public eye -- that's key. Once you've resolved to do that, I suspect that what you do, and with whom you do it, are secondary considerations.

. . . there are also a huge number who don't give a thought to the future or their own safety. They drink their way through college, they engage in extreme sports without consideration of the ramifications of a head or spinal injury, they take risks driving cars, they dabble in drugs. I personally think doing gay porn is a much better choice than driving a motorcycle off a ramp at 70 MPH and flipping it over three or four times. But that's just me.

Excellent point: personally I never considered that how the "no fear/I'm immortal" mindset of so many tween guys figured into their ability to perform, but it makes perfect sense.

And money buys a helluva lot of fun at that age. For the gay guys on the site, maybe they get off on being the object of someone's fantasy, maybe there's a thrill to that. Or maybe they want some money for a new car.

Mainstream hetero porn makers, like Vivid, have a rigid compensation scale respecting various acts: BJ gets you x, getting fucked 2x, anal or lesbo scene maybe 3x, etc. It wouldn't surprise me if Corbin Fisher has something similar, and 'Dawson' may have understood rimming or getting fucked in terms of the down payment on his 'vette.

It may have started out as a kick, but after the second or third video, it's all about the paycheck.

I'm with you on this one. I would add it's not like they're not permitted to have fun while they are doing it. However, it has been pointed out here that 'Dawson's recent gay performances have lost a lot of their initial enthusiasm. Perhaps for him its become just a job.

BTW, it wouldn't surprise me if both Dawson and Logan are employed by CF behind the scenes as well as in front of the camera.

Well, they've both 'interviewed' new models. In that, there roles are very similar to Cole's on 'Active Duty'.

As for the future wife, she'll get used to a comfortable standard of living, a new designer handbag every month and she'll forget her husband's porno past. Until the minister that their church shakes her husband's hand and accidentally calls him Dawson.

More likely a priest, Ted Haggard notwithstanding

Again, I love you, Gribbles!

 

[TongueTied]

dude, it's just porn

 

[ryankeith]

This just seems so bizarre to me. I was so sure that these guys were gay, they gave such good performances in their videos. To hear that they're straight and looking for ladies on the 'net...I don't know what to think anymore.

it's called denial.

 

[Slansky]

This is an interesting discussion. Let me throw THIS much in about Dawson (about whom I know quite a bit).

1) He WAS a model on the straight modeling site "All-American Guys" until they found out he was doing porn, and canned him.
2) He had his own sex website when in high school--replete with gay clientele. He charged quite a bit of money, too.

I'm thinking it's more CHOICE than happenstance; and he's more GAY than he'd like to admit. Hey, why not? He's got a very attractive body, and who knows what kind of experiences he's had? Id venture he's had girls (and obviously a lot of GUYS) after him probably since puberty set in. And as far as advertising for women? IF we're right; and IF he's "conflicted" he may not know how to approach women. GUYS he seems to have NO trouble with. But he may be trying to "prove" to himself he's not "really a homo." Who knows what goes on in people's heads?

But ask me--I'll tell you. He's gay as a summer day--whether he realizes it or not.

 

[shotglass]

This is an interesting discussion. Let me throw THIS much in about Dawson (about whom I know quite a bit).

1) He WAS a model on the straight modeling site "All-American Guys" until they found out he was doing porn, and canned him.
2) He had his own sex website when in high school--replete with gay clientele. He charged quite a bit of money, too.

I'm thinking it's more CHOICE than happenstance; and he's more GAY than he'd like to admit. Hey, why not? He's got a very attractive body, and who knows what kind of experiences he's had? Id venture he's had girls (and obviously a lot of GUYS) after him probably since puberty set in. And as far as advertising for women? IF we're right; and IF he's "conflicted" he may not know how to approach women. GUYS he seems to have NO trouble with. But he may be trying to "prove" to himself he's not "really a homo." Who knows what goes on in people's heads?

But ask me--I'll tell you. He's gay as a summer day--whether he realizes it or not.

Tell us more. Did you go to school with Dawson aka Andrew? Thanks for the info already supplied. You said you knew "quite a bit" about him. I never bought his story of fucking a girl on the 50 yard line with the lights on. No one saw it? Come on, give me a break. Sure it's a great story. But fact or fiction. The town he grew up in, wasn't that rural. I've seen where his high school is located.

But he sure was a cutie back then, and when he first came to CF. But today's Dawson, all bulked up just like Lucas, don't those guys realize they have to maintain their regimen the rest of their lives or the muscle will just turn to fat.

I always enjoyed Dawson's earlier videos. The ones with Nate, Logan, Cory Patrick and the slimmer Lucas. Now when I watch them, I can't get the current Dawson look out of my mind. Dawson tone down for your own health.

 

[UWSMike]

Slansky: Can you expand on what the "Sex Website" Dawson ran was? One of those "watch me jerk off on camera for money" sites or was he an escort of sorts?

Sounds like you have some insider knowledge of the porn biz. Maybe you can answer us then as to how much these guys make?