The Original Gay Porn Community - Free Gay Movies and Photos, Gay Porn Site Reviews and Adult Gay Forums

  • Welcome To Just Us Boys - The World's Largest Gay Message Board Community

    In order to comply with recent US Supreme Court rulings regarding adult content, we will be making changes in the future to require that you log into your account to view adult content on the site.
    If you do not have an account, please register.
    REGISTER HERE - 100% FREE / We Will Never Sell Your Info

    PLEASE READ: To register, turn off your VPN (iPhone users- disable iCloud); you can re-enable the VPN after registration. You must maintain an active email address on your account: disposable email addresses cannot be used to register.

  • Hi Guest - Did you know?
    Hot Topics is a Safe for Work (SFW) forum.

Dealing with homophobia in America

Having never been bashed to my face, having never had fear about who I was, being completely out and not being meek about it, I don't have anything to offer about either the forthrightness of homophobia, or the subtlety behind it.

It exists. But - and i'm knocking on wood here - i've never been a target.
 
I'm gonna get back to this, 'cause it requires detail - more than I can give right now with a worn out brain.
 
One thing to notice about homophobia in America is that it's retreating. Random single people tend not to go around and try to bully people for being/looking gay. It's much more likely to happen in groups, and when "the gays" intrude on "their" space - going into a biker bar or something. I'm not saying the former NEVER happens, mind you, but it seems homophobia is less about "grabbing the baseball bats and heading out to where they hang out" and more about "grumbling quietly at the TV news about the good old days".

That said, I'll answer the questions.

>>>Let's say that you are walking somewhere by yourself, and some men yell out "f*cking f@ggot!" What should you do then? What should you do if some guys start beating you, yelling out, "Die f@ggot," or "Burn in hell, you f@g!" ?

In general, get to safety. This isn't a situation that calls for education. This is more bullying than anything else. If I felt I could bluff or fight my way out, and I was half-inclined to, I might call them on it. But if there was more than one of them, and they felt secure enough to let loose with "fightin' words", chances are my odds wouldn't be that good.

But that's really my point. I VERY rarely have gotten "faggot" or other "fightin' words" thrown my way. Not because I'm not gay, or even because I don't look gay. But because I don't look easy to take in a fight. I'm over six feet tall, I'm rather stocky, and although I'm actually pretty weak, I doubt people would be able to pick up on that easily. And I don't think I'm much of a fighter, but I know a few simple techniques that would probably increase my chances. But the point is this - any would-be bullies don't bypass me because I'm "not that gay". They bypass me because I'm not an easy mark. And I think that's the key to dealing with this sort of people - don't be an easy mark. Be careful where you go. If you're small, travel in groups. Do your best to not appear to be an easy mark, and you're less likely to be one.

>>>How open are you about your sexual orientation at work? Regardless of whether you are 'out' or not at work, how do you respond if you overhear your colleagues making "gay jokes" about you?

I've always been out at work. Even when working at the auto parts warehouse. Most of the gay jokes I hear are friendly ones - fun jabs that co-workers take, the same way we joke about Roger's lousy handwriting and Richard's partying. If somebody tells a joke that seems to be more hurtful than playful, I usually do my best to recast the joke so it's more "fun".

Quick example. Back in the factory days, we had a client who wouldn't pay their bills on time. We sent our rep out (who was female, and rather attractive) to try to get things sorted out, but things didn't change. One co-worker said "We should send Lex out next time. He'd probably enjoy it." His comment sounded more snide than joke-y, so I decided to run with it a bit. I said, "Forget it. I'd want dinner first, and you know that cheapskate wouldn't pay for that." The uncomfortable laughter from the first "joke" got replaced by more friendly laughter, and even the guy who told it softened afterwards. I don't recall him making any more snide comments after that.

Could I have reported him? Yeah, I guess. But my goal wasn't to "get him in trouble" or punish him for saying what he did. To be brief, I wanted him "on my team". I wanted him to think I wasn't some weird freak, and to think I was an OK guy...and, by extension, maybe other gay guys were OK guys as well. And I think being friendly and joking around is actually a good way to accomplish that.

>>>How do you cope with more subtle forms of homophobia at the workplace or in the local community?

By being out. Seriously. I won't get into what I do for a living, but I have a public face. I'm somewhat known within the community. Perhaps the lowest level of "fame". Think of the guy doing the weather on your local TV station - about that level. :) And I'm out. Have been almost from the get-go, over a decade back. To the best of my knowledge, I'm the first person in my area to do what I do and be out. (A couple others have followed.) And the response? Surprisingly minimal, and mainly positive. A few people have come up to me at public events and asked "Are you gay?", occasionally with a snide tone. To which I say "Yep." And they say "...oh." :)

Lex
 
I honestly don't believe that most of these instances are true homophobia. By definition of a phobia, it's a genuine fear of homosexuality. Most of these stories involve idiots trying to look cool in front of their friends. I really doubt that there's too much real homophobia in America. Just stupidity.
 
>>>By definition of a phobia, it's a genuine fear of homosexuality.

Fear and/or hatred of homosexuality.

Lex
 
UM lets see , oh yeah all those GAY murders that not make you wonder ? :(

I'm not saying shit doesn't happen, I'm saying the bashing is going away lately. There are murders with straight people too on stupid issues as well. All I'm saying is that it happens to a small percentage of gay people now. Insults happen on a larger scale though, but they don't come close to murder.

The only time I feared for my life because of my sexuality was when some guy saw my rainbow bracelet, threw something small like a rubber band at my head and giving me the death stare. Most people who do shit like that will not follow up on what they're threatening or trying to convey.

If you have a fear of coming out due to hate, just realize limitations, avoid horrible situations, and don't egg anything on yourself.
 
>>>Egg anything on?

Yeah, you know. Don't go asking for it. Don't go acting all camp or faggy.

Lex
 
ho·mo·pho·bia
noun \ˌhō-mə-ˈfō-bē-ə\
Definition of HOMOPHOBIA
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homophobia

Yeah, my point was to say that I don't believe nearly as many people genuinely give a rat's ass about homosexuality as you might think. I just think most of them are scared of looking like they support gayness in any way in front of their friends.
 
ho·mo·pho·bia
noun ˌhō-mə-ˈfō-bē-ə
Definition of HOMOPHOBIA
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homophobia

Yeah, my point was to say that I don't believe nearly as many people genuinely give a rat's ass about homosexuality as you might think. I just think most of them are scared of looking like they support gayness in any way in front of their friends.

Which is called fear. Irrational fear, at that. Which is called... well, you figure it out.
 
>>>Egg anything on?

Yeah, you know. Don't go asking for it. Don't go acting all camp or faggy.

Lex

I'm not saying that at all good lord, I know an even more flamboyant guy than me and all the huge straight bullies at my school love him. I'm just saying don't get all up in their faces, insult them or incite anything immoral.
 
I'm not saying that at all good lord, I know an even more flamboyant guy than me and all the huge straight bullies at my school love him. I'm just saying don't get all up in their faces, insult them or incite anything immoral.

Incite anything immoral , would that be as in GAY ?
 
Keep your head high. Homophobes are people who don't like change or new ways. IF you should be confronted move on, dont give them a second look. Dealing with homophobia in small towns is the worst, not many advocates for us here. but always remember you are your own person, fuck the others!
 
YES otherwise what do you mean by immoral ? :confused:

Getting in people's faces, insulting, hitting, punching, things that would turn a situation from bad to worse, or inciting violence through profanities.
 
From the outside, it looks like what you do is leave the U.S. and take your talents and tax dollars to a country and culture that is going to treat you like a human being.



Very, very few Americans have the option to actually move outside of the country and become a permanent resident of somewhere else. That process takes 7+ years of legally living and working in a country. Few people have qualifications that are high enough in demand to warrant hiring outside of the country.


With the way things have been going lately, I think a LOT of Americans would jump ship. . .straight or gay.
 
Getting in people's faces, insulting, hitting, punching, things that would turn a situation from bad to worse, or inciting violence through profanities.

GhostMost buddy what dictionary are you using , the gobbedlly book of phrases ?Getting in someones face for calling you a faggot you call that immoral ?
Defending yourself from being gaybashed you call that immoral ?
Inciting violence yes i agree with you there i would call that immoral .
Insulting and profanities in this context mean the same thing buddy . #-o
 
I'm completely out and I've never experienced any sort of gay bashing or homophobia. I live in the Bible Belt.
 
Back
Top