Do JUBbers ever get tired of seeing boys who look like 15 or 16 in the Porn forum? (rant)

[Telstra]

One thing I notice - because its glaringly obvious - in this thread is that it seems to be the guys most offended who seem to look at the most of this barely legal stuff. I mean, so many of you know the names of all the models and who their bfs might be. The amount of specific detail tells me that many of you MAY be simply struggling with your own worries or guilt feelings.

Because I would suspect that men only jerking off to 18+ or not into it at all don't even know the name of one model in most instances.

Speaking the truth.

To find out the truth who likes what, one must look in their harddrive to see what hot pics they kept in there.
My harddrive are full of hot hunky men, some are smooth and some are very hairy.

 

[Kyanimal]

Hey, "KIDS"! (I can call MOST of You that because I'm older than You! )

It seems to me that the core question here is, "What is considered 'Creepy'?" And, it's also apparent that it's a question of AGE relevance!

First off, 18yr. olds are LEGAL! Period! It doesn't matter what they Look like, as long as they're proven to be 18!

Second, if they're age can't be Confirmed, then Appearance DOES matter! And, JUB does a very good job of making those types of decisions!

Third, we are ALL totally free to decide what we find attractive, or not.

Forth, none of us have the right to decide/judge what ANY of us find attractive, or not, as long as the LEGAL constrictions are observed, which is only Right!

Fifth, ALL of us are also free to express our own opinions, whether anyone else agrees, or not, without fear of blatant condemnation (though that may likely follow, as shallow as we Humans can be). We SHOULD be able to disagree with Respect, though a lot of us aren't quite capable of that, yet. (Another AGE/Experience thing.)

Sixth, UNDERSTANDING does not equate Agreement, and shouldn't be considered as such.

Seventh, the greater the Age Range (seemingly. or actual), the higher the "Creepy Factor" is perceived. (And, little will you "Get That" until you actually "Get There".)

Eighth, CG is expressing that far before his "Time". (Just wait, Buddy, if you think it's 'Creepy' NOW for You. )

I'm 62, butt my "Inner Guy" still thinks I'm in my mid, to late, 20's! (Unless I do something stupid, like look in a mirror, or try to skip a stair, or two.) SO ... what I'm thinking, when I'm looking at something, still relates back to what I was feeling when I was much younger. It's not "Creepy" until I realize my True age, verses what I'm 'perving' to.

I'm also one of those guys who (used to) looked younger than my Real age. I was getting carded well into my 30's, and even on occasion, into my 40's. (Though I wasn't Nearly as Cute as Glasvegas (Vince), with his incredible dimples!)

This boils down to a matter of Personal Perception. If CG is feeling uncomfortable with certain images, that is his right, and we should all respect that, even though we may not agree. And, he is also free to skip those, without proclaiming that the rest of us should, too. I do UNDERSTAND him, though, butt do not Agree with the idea that the rest of "US" should be denied our own interests/attractions, as long as it's all Legal.

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

 

[ChickenGuy]

And you conveniently ignored Lex's post about someone being 17 but looking a bit older.

I didn't 'conveniently ignore' anything. And no I wouldn't be OK with that, however old he looked.

OK, let's change the age to 18. An 18-year-old who looks 18. And a 21-year-old gets off on it. You're assumedly cool with it. Now a 50-year-old gets off on it. Still OK with it? Because now he's of legal age, and looks like he's of legal age. So it's all good, right?

...my guess is, for you, it isn't.

Lex

Hmmmm, it's a bit of a grey area, but looking 18 is a plus. It doesn't bother me quite so much, but it's still very slighly questionable, maybe, but only a little. Looking 21 would be better in that scenario.

Now now, we must be considerate here! It certainly hurts CG because he has to click a few more times to find the "right" kind of porn to jack off to. We surely don't want him to get so frustrated, do we?

Lol, there IS an element of truth in this to be honest, hence my original rant in my first post. You can hardly find a thread over there that DOESN'T contain boys I find too young. It IS a personal opinion. So I admit I vented my frustrations.

To find out the truth who likes what, one must look in their harddrive to see what hot pics they kept in there.
My harddrive are full of hot hunky men, some are smooth and some are very hairy.

I recently downloaded some pics from the 'Male Beauty' thread. redfox70 has a very good eye for attractive guys with muscular torsos. Another good thread is 'Men In Underwear'. jdcnow has a very nice taste in the pics he chooses in there. And then there is of course 'A Man Not A Boy' and its archive, so I'm sure I've got plenty to keep me going.

 

[SilverWolf]

Why is Eurocreme advertising Jake Hamilton? That man appeared in one scene in one movie that was released in 2008.

But it was a good movie. It was one of the first gay movies I purchased that year since I just turned 18.

 

[Kyanimal]

CG Never said that anybody should be denied anything in the opening post. He stated an opinion and asked if anybody else felt the same way. It had nothing to do with condemnation and even explicitly stated that this was not about whether people approved of it.

Granted, but the rest of the thread generally descended down into the quagmire of insinuations, assumptions, and 'spins', of what CG actually said/meant in the first place. Which, given the nature of an 'open' forum is not all that unusual, nor unexpected.

I suppose I was addressing the general Tone that the 'discussion' had taken, as opposed to what CG originally posted/intended.

Just goes to show I'm as susceptible as anyone else to the clamor of the meandering din.

Thank You! for pointing that out. And, my apologies to CG!

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

 

[Kyanimal]

I agree with most everything you said, but as I was one of the people who used the word creepy I feel that I should clarify: I don't think there's anything creepy about age difference in general, even big age difference, I'm only referring to guys that look very much underage and the people who want them.

Say that someone had a rare disorder that made them forever look as if they were 3 years old. Now regardless of whether or not this person is of age (over 18), if someone is attracted to them then that probably means that they're a pedophile. To me this is the less extreme version of that. Not as bad, but still creepy.

Completely agree with you on that point!

Still ... others also used "Creepy", given greater age ranges, real and perceived. And, even though I find myself now fitting that divergence, I also find myself agreeing with them (when I'm thinking with my "Big" head.)

 

[jasoncrew03]

I don't really see what the OP's talking about. Sure there are threads dedicated to "Twinks" and "Young(er)" guys but outside of them I rarely stop and think "Oh, this guy is underage." And I'm the kind of person who normally thinks people look younger than they are because I've always been taken for being older than I am - I'm 20 and with few exceptions I haven't been carded since I was 17.

As for age differences in relationships, this is something I feel strongly about. Age really shouldn't matter and it's nobody's business how long your significant other has been walking around the Earth. I've always been attracted to people older than me because I'm fond of a certain type of maturity that people my age rarely posses. Case and point, my husband is almost 10 years older than I am and we are very happy together and function splendidly as a couple.

 

[Taz]

Heres a fun question for you chicken guy.

If you see a guy that looks 18 19, but is actually 16, is it ok to be attracted to him?

 

[looseliam]

silly reply to wrong thread post

move along - nothing to see here

 

[jasoncrew03]

I don't know when you got married, but congratulations! That's quite a milestone you've reached

Thanks! I got married in December.

 

[Kulindahr]

Anyone who gets off on kids who look 15 needs help.

 

[ChickenGuy]

Heres a fun question for you chicken guy.

If you see a guy that looks 18 19, but is actually 16, is it ok to be attracted to him?

Depends what you mean by 'attraction'.

A temporary superficial attraction based only on vague appearance? I suppose that's OK. A deep emotional or explicitly sexual attraction? Not really, no.

UNLESS.... the other guy is also 16-18, in which case I don't actually have a problem with it. Just so long as they can avoid the immense pressure these days to throw their sexual lives open to every complete stranger and pervert on the internet.

UNLESS.... they were sharing it with a closed select group who were ALSO about 16-18. I guess that would be OK. But nothing stays private these days, especially with that age group.

Hope you weren't expecting a 'yes' or 'no' answer.

 

[TickTockMan]

You do realize that some boys at age 15 or 16 can still pass for over 21? Does it make one less of a pedophile to lust after them?

According to past threads on this topic, yes it does.

Here it is again in this thread.

Heres a fun question for you chicken guy.

If you see a guy that looks 18 19, but is actually 16, is it ok to be attracted to him?

Depends what you mean by 'attraction'.

A temporary superficial attraction based only on vague appearance? I suppose that's OK.

So what the OP seems to be saying is that it is okay to like a 15/16 year old if they “look” 18/19, but it is wrong to like an 18/19 year old if they “look” 15/16. Makes perfect sense.

 

[Redsox]

As long as they are legitimately 18 or old, I guess I don't care.

Personally I'm not into that type of porn.

Why do the bitches some out to play when someone wants to have a discussion

 

[Kulindahr]

You do realize that some boys at age 15 or 16 can still pass for over 21? Does it make one less of a pedophile to lust after them?

Someone lusting after guys who are 15 or 16 aren't pedophiles in the first place.

 

[Kulindahr]

So what the OP seems to be saying is that it is okay to like a 15/16 year old if they “look” 18/19, but it is wrong to like an 18/19 year old if they “look” 15/16. Makes perfect sense.

Drawing a legal line at a certain age doesn't make sense anyway -- it's laziness and disrespect for individuals on the part of the lawmakers.

 

[ChickenGuy]

So what the OP seems to be saying is that it is okay to like the 15/16 year old if they “look” 18/19, but it is wrong to like a 18/19 year old if they “look” 15/16. Make perfect sense.

Thanks for the deliberate selective quote of me and for taking my comments completely out of context.

If it's simply a NON-SEXUAL "Oh, that boy is good-looking" or "Oh, he's nice." then I'm perfectly fine with EITHER of the examples.

If the motive is to jerk off and lust over them doing sexual acts, then I have an issue and objection with BOTH of the examples.

Does that make more 'perfect sense' to you?

 

[ChickenGuy]

CG, so now it takes a hardcore, left-wing liberal to accept that men come in different shapes and sizes?

You practically just told members in this very thread that their youthful looks means that only a pedophile could be attracted to them.

You and your views disgust me.

I've said absolutely NOTHING of the sort and well you know it, you're the one trying to frame everything I've said into a stupid and false generalisation.

Why don't you go and actually READ my posts in this thread and at least TRY to understand them instead of making dumb knee-jerk accusations and purposefully crude caricatures of my views.

 

[ChickenGuy]

QUOTE=Kien;8182342]I do have a question for you, CG. This guy is interested in me. I'm 19, he's 27. Do you think this attraction(sexual and nonsexual) is wrong?[/QUOTE]

No, of course I don't, as I now have to say for about the third time, this is NOT about what people do in their private lives.

You're better than me. I see his words as hateful. He's basically saying that because a person is born with certain genetics that they should be looked at and treated as a child, even if they're just as old as someone with a "better" face and body.

Love the silly attempt at you trying to equate this with racism. You must be pretty over-sensitive about something if you're now resorting to making some bizarre connection between the two.

But yes, some aged 18 WILL look far younger, and they SHOULD NOT be in porn. I don't care what fake discrimination issue you're now trying to push. That is my view and I DON'T GIVE A SHIT what moronic parallel you're attempting and failing to put on this.

He's also saying that anyone attracted to these men (not boys...MEN) are pedophiles

Excuse me, have you even BOTHERED to read post #143 at the first line? I never mentioned paedophilia until others on here did.

Stop wasting my time.

 

[seven2go]

Anyone who gets off on kids who look 15 needs help.

Nah.......I can get off them perfectly well all by myself.......