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Do You Ever Wish You Were One of the 'Breeders' ?

Hell no, I don't want any stinking kids and be stuck with an ingrate for a wife. Even if I were straight I seriously doubt that I would marry and have kids. Why be tied down? As for dying alone, yes I probably will and I've accepted that as part of the deal.
 
We gravitate towards what is expected of us when we're children. The fairytales that they spew out at us with white horses and happy endings. The dreaded question from relatives about whether or not you've found a girl to date yet are met with a shy no because you don't want to shatter their dreams of you shacking up with a blonde with child bearing hips in a decent neighborhood.

Finding out that I was gay gave me that escape card. The relief that I knew I wasn't going to end up deathly unhappy like my parents had was almost too much to handle. To know that I won't be coming home everyday to a wife who had given up all love and respect for me a long time ago made me feel all warm inside.

Children can be both a blessing and a curse but mostly they are damn hard work from the moment they're born to the moment you pack them off to college. My sister is testament to this. She's only had her first child for 18 months and already she's dazed out on anti depressants, making snide remarks about how lucky i've got it being gay. The difference is I know i'm lucky and I don't take my life for granted.
 
I have had those thoughts. I think it's only normal based upon what society as defined as the "good, family life". I hope in future generations that this will change.
 
I can't stand children. You have to modify your behaviour, speech and virtually anything that is fun has to be cancelled out for the sake of some snotty nosed leech... FUCK DAT! I've considered the idea of being straight only when guys piss me off. But then, I think to myself... NAH! My relationship with my hags is the best. We check out guys together, we talk about stuff, we spend time together and there's no issue regarding anything. Besides, I like men's bodies way too much to give them up. At least as masturbatory accesories.

Heterosexuality is posed as normal only because science and religion have been at the helm of what is and isn't 'normal' 'moral' but that's all. I like being gay. Besides, even if it's a sexual deviation, at least I'm not like everyone one of those cookie cut out straight couples.

Besides, when I hear straight men bitch about how annoying women are, and when I see straight men bashing women I wonder... if heterosexuality is so great, then why do heterosexual men always bitch about their wives, and long to get away with the guys?
 
I loathe the term "breeders"....it is disparaging,condescendiing,and full of derision.We came from them...are we going to despise our parents?Our friends?Family,neighbors,co-workers?Not all heterosexual couples are souless,hypocritical,dysfunctional,conformist automatons who go thriough their lives in worthless desparation....we should know better than to generalize and stigmatize and mock all who are different from us.

That said,the straight married in the suburbs with kids life isn't for everyone.Being straight isn't for everyone.I'm gay,would love a partner...but think I wouldn't have the patience or discipline to be a very good parent.There are great families who come from straight parents,there are messed up ones...same I'm sure with gay couples with families,life isn't simple or easily definable.

Nothing wrong in itself with straight couples and raising families....not crazy about the idea of suburban life.....but I'm gay and would not change it.Being gay certainly doesn't preclude having a family,but that part I really think isn't something right for me.
 
Robert~Marlénè said:
And the whole dying-alone bit... well, honey, we all die alone. I'm sure it's more pleasant to die surrounded by family than lying all by yourself in a room, but the fact remains that you're the only one dying, you're still alone.
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Well goodness,

That's quite the sobering thought, Robert.
 
Joshua_me said:
Well goodness,

That's quite the sobering thought, Robert.
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To me,it's not the dying alone...but the possibility I may never have someone to share my life with as a soulmate.Never have a connection,never really know what love can be.But in my case,I'd know if there was someone,it would have to be a man.
 
sausageeater said:
To me,it's not the dying alone...but the possibility I may never have someone to share my life with as a soulmate.Never have a connection,never really know what love can be.But in my case,I'd know if there was someone,it would have to be a man.
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I have every confidence you'll find someone, babe. Or, they'll find YOU. :kiss:
 
Joshua_me said:
I have every confidence you'll find someone, babe. Or, they'll find YOU. :kiss:
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Well,I can't dispel the possibility,as unlikely I feel right now about it.Thank you,it's good to have some positive reinforcement,Joshy!:kiss:
 
When I was younger and still in full denial, I did think that's what I wanted. Even had a kid on the way, but the significant other miscarried. Looking back, I think it was meant to be. Have absolutely no desire to be a parent now.
 
sausageeater said:
I loathe the term "breeders"....it is disparaging,condescendiing,and full of derision.We came from them...are we going to despise our parents?Our friends?Family,neighbors,co-workers?Not all heterosexual couples are souless,hypocritical,dysfunctional,conformist automatons who go thriough their lives in worthless desparation....we should know better than to generalize and stigmatize and mock all who are different from us.

That said,the straight married in the suburbs with kids life isn't for everyone.Being straight isn't for everyone.I'm gay,would love a partner...but think I wouldn't have the patience or discipline to be a very good parent.There are great families who come from straight parents,there are messed up ones...same I'm sure with gay couples with families,life isn't simple or easily definable.

Nothing wrong in itself with straight couples and raising families....not crazy about the idea of suburban life.....but I'm gay and would not change it.Being gay certainly doesn't preclude having a family,but that part I really think isn't something right for me.
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Great Post :=D:
 
Sausy, there are a few single JUBbers here who I think would make such excellent partners for somebody. And you, kind sir, are right near the top of that list. :)

Lex
 
Shepherd 2 said:
One chapter of my life was with a wife and three kids.
The kids are all older than most of you.
I have no regrets, it took me a long time to come out.
Yes it is painful, but we are in a good place now.
Now I have a grandson and I will visit him tomorrow and
Thursday. Another grandson will be born in October.
All are on good terms with me at this time in my life.
None of my three children are gay, yet all are loving and accepting of me, including the wife I had. I am fortunate.

My life has at least seven or eight chapters.
Each one has a theme and is different.
I have adjusted to it mostly.
Oh I have my rough edges too, but life is good.
I am one person, and one thread, but always in different times.
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A lovely response, Shep. :kiss:

I feel my life is being lived out in 'chapters' as well, it's just that lately I'm scared as hell to turn the pages.
 
I'm sexually attracted to men!

I could never be happy with a woman. Women are nice and everything but I have no sexual attraction to them whatsoever. I hope to marry my bf someday and adopt children with him.
 
In a word: No.
In two words: Hell No!!!

I don't have anything against the 'burbs, it's the wife, the 2.5 kids and the minivan that I object to...
 
i think i wish for it more than i'm willing to admit to myself.

but i know that's because i'm still somewhat young and i still haven't gotten to any of perks of being gay.
 
It's not just the old age thing though. I was just trying to point out that I'm not looking through rose-coloured glasses and that it is clearly a lot of work. I really do love children and would like having them around. Not so much the baby stage, probably, as many people have told me they started enjoying parenthood a lot more when the kids could walk, talk and be taken places.

Such men with a "feminine streak" often make great fathers, which could probably include some of us in this thread.

I know it's a gamble as far as future happiness. My grandmother is 99 and ailing, but still living at home with the help of her children. She has ten, but the relative contributions of each run the full spectrum from dedication to virtual absence.
 
hmm... why 2.5 kids..what happened to the other half of that kid.

Lol :)

yes I've thought about it, a lot..but please NO! Straight life is not easy. You're forever attached to a group of people that you will forever need to take care of.

It is a lot of responsibility. All women considered that once they married you it is your responsiblity to take care of them for the rest of your life. Some may lie and say otherwise but trust me, when you're in that argument every truth will come out like a brick to face.
To me, its almost like signing a contract to sell your soul to the devil. Everything that happened, it is your responsiblity to handle.

Then come fatherhood. As soon as you two concieve that child, you need to think about the future. You must be able to raise that kid. Possible change of career, a new home, and totally new life. Its a long time, lots of stress, and lots of waiting.

Thinking about it seems fast..like they say "time goes by fast." But trust me, when you're living and counting the days, time goes awfully slow.

I like my life. I am only responsible for myself. I only need to think and act for myself.

I have to say it but that brings too much stress if I have to be forever attached to a "family". You lose freedom. Once you have kids, your life will go downhill. Every day whats on your mind is how will you make better money, or how to teach them well. If they are girls, you must watch them every step of the way incase anything bad happen to them. If boys, expect them to get into trouble and guess what, you're the person that needs to solve the trouble.

Then when they grow up and reach teenage years.. Lol, I don't even need to go into details on this one.

Life gets too complicated to enjoy it to the fullest.
 
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