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Do You Feel Guilty Owning A Car?
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alister9669
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No, its time for many big companies to start cleaning up their emissions and stop putting the burden on the individuals. I live in an area where we have to have our car emissions tested. The state gets credit for each car it checks, in turn they are allowed to "let" business not meet EPA requirements. I think thats crap. My car meets the EPA requirements Why not the company that produced it?
Uhh... no.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that automobiles do not contribute their own share to global pollution. But living in a city of 1, 144, 646 people and in a state with no real mass transit solutions, what would you expect me to do? I'm not giving up my car. I do what I can by making sure my 4 cylinder car is serviced frequently so that I'm not contributing more to the problem.
And another thing, why is it just car owners? What about companies who do nothing to stave off their own pollution? It isn't car owners who pollute water ways with their waste and run-off.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that automobiles do not contribute their own share to global pollution. But living in a city of 1, 144, 646 people and in a state with no real mass transit solutions, what would you expect me to do? I'm not giving up my car. I do what I can by making sure my 4 cylinder car is serviced frequently so that I'm not contributing more to the problem.
And another thing, why is it just car owners? What about companies who do nothing to stave off their own pollution? It isn't car owners who pollute water ways with their waste and run-off.
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Styrker
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For what I,m paying for gas; They should be paying me..QUILTY...HELL NO!!
Only when I run over a small child.
But seriously, folks... I will grant you that the entire car-culture in this and most developed countries is contributing a great deal to the pollution that is destroying life on our planet. Alternate fuels are made impossible by the requirements of the four-door sedan; alternate modes of transportation are disdained because they're unprivate, they lack individuality, you have no control over the motion, speed, and direction, and you can't play your music as loud as you want and sing along at the top of your voice.
Our culture has grown for so long with cars that it is impossible to consider removing cars without completely altering the culture.
And because public transportation is so unpopular, it cannot expand to suit our actual needs, so in most places it's ridiculously inconvenient: you can't stow a week's worth of groceries for a small family on a bus, you can't cart around all of your samples and home-from-work files and changes of clothes on the train, and you can't pick your nose in the car-pool. Even in such transit-rich cities as New York or San Francisco, people have to have cars to go anywhere besides to and from work. What if you want to go shopping? What if you want to go visit a relative in the 'burbs?
And though I live in a city and can take public transit to and from work, why in the hell would I walk five blocks to get on some smelly bus that takes twenty minutes to go two miles (and pollutes more than ten cars would on its way), then walk five more blocks to work... when I can just jump in the car in my driveway, snap to work in about seven minutes, and park in the lot? And so very few people live as near to a bus-stop as I do.
No, I do not feel guilty in the least. It's a big mess, but it's not a mess I made... I'm just one of two hundred and fifty million contributors.
But seriously, folks... I will grant you that the entire car-culture in this and most developed countries is contributing a great deal to the pollution that is destroying life on our planet. Alternate fuels are made impossible by the requirements of the four-door sedan; alternate modes of transportation are disdained because they're unprivate, they lack individuality, you have no control over the motion, speed, and direction, and you can't play your music as loud as you want and sing along at the top of your voice.
Our culture has grown for so long with cars that it is impossible to consider removing cars without completely altering the culture.
And because public transportation is so unpopular, it cannot expand to suit our actual needs, so in most places it's ridiculously inconvenient: you can't stow a week's worth of groceries for a small family on a bus, you can't cart around all of your samples and home-from-work files and changes of clothes on the train, and you can't pick your nose in the car-pool. Even in such transit-rich cities as New York or San Francisco, people have to have cars to go anywhere besides to and from work. What if you want to go shopping? What if you want to go visit a relative in the 'burbs?
And though I live in a city and can take public transit to and from work, why in the hell would I walk five blocks to get on some smelly bus that takes twenty minutes to go two miles (and pollutes more than ten cars would on its way), then walk five more blocks to work... when I can just jump in the car in my driveway, snap to work in about seven minutes, and park in the lot? And so very few people live as near to a bus-stop as I do.
No, I do not feel guilty in the least. It's a big mess, but it's not a mess I made... I'm just one of two hundred and fifty million contributors.
My car is 18 months old and has less than 10,000 miles. I drive to where I need to go because there isn't any other way. Maybe I'd feel guilty if there were an alternative and I chose not to take it. But there isn't, so I don't.
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I live out in the boonies and it would be very hard for me to exist without a car. I often drive 30-60 minutes just to do regular errands. If I lived in a big city, I might consider living car-free.
But then, I love to drive...
But then, I love to drive...
I work at home, so nope. Hardly ever use it. But, Greaves, since you're so concerned, might I suggest that you give up your computer and go live in a grass hut somewhere. Do you really think that the processes that manufactured your house, computer, television, etc., don't contribute to the polllution of the planet? I'm all for trying to improve environmental conditions, but let's not hold one section of the population responsible for a problem that's out of control on MANY fronts.
dumbnhung
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greaves said:Is it not time for car owners to admit they are polluting the planet, and to find alternative ways to travel?
Nope, not guilty. Starting to think about getting a summer car and parking my winter car right now!
empire_records
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I live in a huge city, that is a sprawling city. It takes me 40 minutes a day to get to my University, Anywhere you try to go in Auckland takes a long time. Our public transport system is shit, you barely ever see a bus and we have a pathetic train system in place. I couldnt get anywhere if I didnt drive.
Besides the biggest poluting factor in my country is COW FARTS, If you put that in perspective then on a global scale were not doing too badly.
Besides the biggest poluting factor in my country is COW FARTS, If you put that in perspective then on a global scale were not doing too badly.
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dumbnhung said:
So am I. I just found a '73 MachI Mustang. A good all american gas hog!
I don't feel guilty at all. Then again, I don't drive a gas hog either. Cars are not the only problem. There are also millions of trucks and buses and RV's on the road and, believe me, none of them feel any guilt.
The world has had plenty of time to resolve the problem of vehicles polluting the planet. The problem is the good old "internal combustion engine". Find an alternative and do away with it and eventually solve the problem. But they won't do that because it's all about money. Even the hybrids are not selling as well as expected.
We can put men on the moon yet there has been no significant change in the internal combustion engine since Henry Ford drove the first mass-produced car down the street. Go figure.
The world has had plenty of time to resolve the problem of vehicles polluting the planet. The problem is the good old "internal combustion engine". Find an alternative and do away with it and eventually solve the problem. But they won't do that because it's all about money. Even the hybrids are not selling as well as expected.
We can put men on the moon yet there has been no significant change in the internal combustion engine since Henry Ford drove the first mass-produced car down the street. Go figure.
I've lived and worked in London most of my life, and have never used a car. I've used a bycycle, walking or public transport to get around. The only reason my fellow Londoners use cars is that they do not like these alternative means of travel. The alternatives are there. They choose not to use them, so pollute the planet.
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Guilty? Nope. I had four cars up until last week. I can only drive one at a time! LOL So how does owning more than one use more fuel?
I remember buying a used 1974 Eldorado when I was 24 years old. It had a 500 cubic inch engine that only ran on premium octane gas. The fuel tank held 27 gallons and it only got 9 miles per gallon around town. The car could seat 6 if you wanted, but not comfortably. Despite the size of the car it had a pretty tight rear seat area because it was a coupe. And nobody really likes sitting in the middle front spot. So it was really a two passenger car to me. And I was single, so I was usually alone driving it.
One day on the interstate highway it dawned on me that I was driving the largest Eldorado made, with the largest engine, sucking down huge amounts of gas and all by myself.
But you know, the car was beautiful. It was white with white leather seats, white vinyl top and a power sun roof. I just adjusted the electric seat, tilted the wheel down a little and smiled. God bless America! Where the highways are wide and gas was cheap.
Of course today the highways are congested and Premium fuel should be about $4.00 a gallon by the end of month. Just finding a parking place big enough for those boats is impossible today!
I still have two large American cars. They are 1980 models. Low mileage, excellent condition. Insurance is cheap and so are the taxes. No car payment either.
I remember buying a used 1974 Eldorado when I was 24 years old. It had a 500 cubic inch engine that only ran on premium octane gas. The fuel tank held 27 gallons and it only got 9 miles per gallon around town. The car could seat 6 if you wanted, but not comfortably. Despite the size of the car it had a pretty tight rear seat area because it was a coupe. And nobody really likes sitting in the middle front spot. So it was really a two passenger car to me. And I was single, so I was usually alone driving it.
One day on the interstate highway it dawned on me that I was driving the largest Eldorado made, with the largest engine, sucking down huge amounts of gas and all by myself.
But you know, the car was beautiful. It was white with white leather seats, white vinyl top and a power sun roof. I just adjusted the electric seat, tilted the wheel down a little and smiled. God bless America! Where the highways are wide and gas was cheap.
Of course today the highways are congested and Premium fuel should be about $4.00 a gallon by the end of month. Just finding a parking place big enough for those boats is impossible today!
I still have two large American cars. They are 1980 models. Low mileage, excellent condition. Insurance is cheap and so are the taxes. No car payment either.
JustBoys05
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I'm aware that my car is polluting the planet, but I dont feel guilty about it. I cant wait 30+ minutes under the sun or the rain just for the bus ( that the alternative way to travel).
I can buy a "enviromental friendly" car, but then I have to put myself in debt. I feel guilt when I have a truck.
I can buy a "enviromental friendly" car, but then I have to put myself in debt. I feel guilt when I have a truck.