Do You Mind Being Called 'Girl' ?

[ravenstar]

I find being called girl offensive frankly. I always have. I may be gay, but I don't have a vagina or a uterus or boobs so therefore I'm not a girl. Mind you I find a lot of things offensive lately. Like mangina and boy pussy, those terms irritate me. Maybe I'm just turning into a grumpy old man.

 

[refujiunderground]

Here is something you should listen and try to stay away from this erratic behavior:

that's different. mel gibson is crazy. i'm NOT. i'm probably one of the most sane people on this board believe it or not. do not let my posts fool you. you seem a bit off though with your anger/oversensitivity issues.

i can joke around with you over something and you'll get all serious talking about "i don't like furby, he's a pedophile made as a kid's toy". relax.

 

[refujiunderground]

No offense, but I don't really see much sanity in "pretending" to be insane through your constant negative and aggressive posts, which usually turn out to be you just ranting about everything in life. You even asked me if I would "diagnose" you with a mental illness, unless you were "joking" about that too.

If you don't want people thinking you're insane, then stop acting like you are insane.

well, if i went over to how many shrinks voluntarily and a majority of them said that there was nothing wrong with me and i was looking for something to be wrong with me then that says a lot more than what somebody who only knows me through a bunch of text could say about me. what it sounds like is that there's some people that are just looking for something to talk about because they have nothing to do perhaps.

i think it's foolish to assume how somebody is like you know them personally based on a bunch of text. i don't know how you can act insane on a message board. i didn't know you can tell how somebody is in real life off of what they say on a message board. the online world and the offline world is two different things. i would say silly, stupid and nonsensical but insane? i've been on message boards for about 12 years so i know how it is. it's usually the people that try their hardest to come off all proper and cool that are usually the ones you should be worried about because they're hiding something. i've seen it over and over again. i'm just treating the internet like the internet and not a job like some of you are doing it. breathe.

 

[refujiunderground]

It'd take a while to quote all of your 3,335 posts.

Anyways, I think it's funny how you're allowed to judge people when you don't "know them personally," yet we can't. Perhaps insane was the wrong word, but rather emotionally disturbed.

i don't. i just say my piece and keep it moving. i don't make it a habit to beat a dead horse or start a feud over nothing. if you notice something, i do not follow around fetaby or giancarlo to argue with them over whatever unlike how they do with me basically repeating themselves on how they feel about me, making a whole lot of judgements or whatever then talking about me being the one that's bothering them. i don't take this thing personally unlike some people do as if they have something to prove so you're not talking to me.

 

[refujiunderground]

But you do. You judged Frank Ocean for no reason at all. You said "his music sucks dick. Fuck him and fuck his music." Seriously, if you don't like his music, I'm fine with that cause I probably wouldn't like it either. But you always have the impulse to be so negative and aggressive and that's why you don't get along well with people.

Whatever though, I don't feel like getting into a never ending argument with you.

what's wrong with saying that? fuck him and his music. don't see what's wrong with what i said.

 

[elGeniuoso1721]

i didn't know you can tell how somebody is in real life off of what they say on a message board.

I mean..............you CAN tell how someone is in real life based off what they say in a message board. Text is a form of communication.....communication "communicates" things........such as personality. Whether by asynchronous text or synchronous in-person conversation....what you say communicates stuff..........that's fact...............

 

[fetaby]

i don't. i just say my piece and keep it moving. i don't make it a habit to beat a dead horse or start a feud over nothing. if you notice something, i do not follow around fetaby or giancarlo to argue with them over whatever unlike how they do with me basically repeating themselves on how they feel about me, making a whole lot of judgements or whatever then talking about me being the one that's bothering them. i don't take this thing personally unlike some people do as if they have something to prove so you're not talking to me.

Who's arguing? I'm just saying my piece... So now I can't go around JUB freely and say whatever the fuck I want? Only you get that privilege?

Anyway, while all this attention has been given to you, it seems this post has slipped on by...

I think I'd punch someone's teeth out if they called me Girl after the first warning.

There's nothing "girl" about me. Probably why I have only straight friends... we get along much better.

Really, Audiotech? Is it that serious?

 

[hotatlboi]

Not a fan of it.

 

[DigitalFudge]

My own mother mistakenly calls me "girl" sometimes when we're chatting about things over the phone. It's usually because she starts to go on and on about something as if she's speaking with her girlfriends, and in turn forgets that she's actually talking to her son.

It always cracks me up, but she feels bad about it.

My sister does the same thing (Well, one of them) it's so cute.


My dad calls me Honey, well a lot of dad's call their son sweety/honey but he is just so use to calling all his daughters that.

I think I'd punch someone's teeth out if they called me Girl after the first warning.

There's nothing "girl" about me. Probably why I have only straight friends... we get along much better.

You messy bitch



Dear lord I missed all the Refuji drama. I was just trying to read up but then I hit those paragraphs...


I ain't bout all dat.


See you girls in the next thread.

 

[refujiunderground]

I mean..............you CAN tell how someone is in real life based off what they say in a message board. Text is a form of communication.....communication "communicates" things........such as personality. Whether by asynchronous text or synchronous in-person conversation....what you say communicates stuff..........that's fact...............

you must not come to message boards often because anybody that has racked up a good amount of time on message boards knows that what's on the internet doesn't always translate in real life.

for example, the person that you might think is the coolest, smartest person on this website might actually be a douchebagish asshole or even an alias that's created by someone who wants to just fuck with you. i've seen it ALL and that comes with spending time on message boards. so do you think it really matters what i post as long as i'm a real person behind this shit? i can present myself anyway i want to, say whatever i want as long as it doesn't violate the community guidelines of the message board because that's what the message board designated purpose is. it is not a job where i have to present myself like how i do around my friends, my family, at my job and etc because it's supposed to be a place where you're free to express yourself in whichever way you feel like doing. it's not like anybody knows me offline on here and if they do, they probably will tell you differently about how i am on in real life than on this site. i can assure you that. the internet gives me more freedom than in real life where i can say things that i wouldn't say in person.

the problem that some of you people have is that you forget that you never know who you're dealing with on the internet. for all you know, i could be your boss and you would have no way of knowing it. you have NO idea of knowing so keep an open mind and don't judge people. you can assume that i'm such and such but the truth is YOU DO NOT KNOW so it would be stupid to go like "refujiunderground is an asshole in real life where he mistreats people." you don't know me.

 

[refujiunderground]

Who's arguing? I'm just saying my piece... So now I can't go around JUB freely and say whatever the fuck I want? Only you get that privilege?

Anyway, while all this attention has been given to you, it seems this post has slipped on by...



Really, Audiotech? Is it that serious?

let's get this straight. i stated an opinion, you disagreed with it and decided to attack my character as if you have a personal issue with me. it's one thing if you had a problem with what i said, you could have just left it at that but to go into this whole "you're closeted, you're putting on a facade, and all this other bullshit". you're looking for something and then you have the nerve to try to push it on me like i'm the one with the problem.

and there's people in here talking about judging. giancarlo out of all people talking about me judging him yet he'll be calling me all sorts of stuff because of my opinion to jokes from violent sociopath to mysognist. only thing i ever called you was argumentative and serious in which that's what you do on the message board. i don't know if you're that way off here but for someone who likes to act like he's all innocent and whatever. i never attacked anybody in here that wasn't coming at me. may have disagreed with you guys but i don't attack anybody that hasn't attacked me so you guys are making false claims. just like you guys are claiming that i'm attacking you guys yet i never said anything to anybody here prior to me talking. it seems like the problem is you guys, not me.

 

[refujiunderground]

I judge by the words you post. That's all. You post enough to show me how you're like. And not for a minute am I acting innocent. I know I have a rough personality, but at least I admit it.

that's fine, no problem with that.

my issue is when certain people have to follow me around voicing how they feel about me as if there's a personal beef or grudge going on. that's my prob. it's one thing if we have to disagree upon something and happens to be in a bunch of threads. that's cool but for someone to go about on tirades attacking me as a person as if they know me, how i am offline and my situation is fucked up. like there's people attacking me for being in the closet and using it against me because they can't find anything to say to counter whatever i said in my opinion. it would be cool if someone would just undermine what i stated but this bullshit where someone gotta talk about my life and me is something else. is someone that much offended at what i say where they have to go to that level? i'm wondering what's next. for someone to call me ugly in the pic thread i posted or to try to expose me to another web forum on some spiteful shit because of my opinion differing from theirs. it seems like it.

this reminds me of the other forum i go to where i state an opinion and i have random people attacking me calling me a virgin, saying i'm a loser, i'm depressed, i should kill myself and all this personal shit. all i just have to say is that it's not cloudy outside or whatever and i get people coming at me like i fucked their girlfriend or boyfriend. then they have the nerve to wonder why i get defensive and offended. for real.

 

[elGeniuoso1721]

you must not come to message boards often because anybody that has racked up a good amount of time on message boards knows that what's on the internet doesn't always translate in real life.

for example, the person that you might think is the coolest, smartest person on this website might actually be a douchebagish asshole or even an alias that's created by someone who wants to just fuck with you. i've seen it ALL and that comes with spending time on message boards. so do you think it really matters what i post as long as i'm a real person behind this shit? i can present myself anyway i want to, say whatever i want as long as it doesn't violate the community guidelines of the message board because that's what the message board designated purpose is. it is not a job where i have to present myself like how i do around my friends, my family, at my job and etc because it's supposed to be a place where you're free to express yourself in whichever way you feel like doing. it's not like anybody knows me offline on here and if they do, they probably will tell you differently about how i am on in real life than on this site. i can assure you that. the internet gives me more freedom than in real life where i can say things that i wouldn't say in person.

the problem that some of you people have is that you forget that you never know who you're dealing with on the internet. for all you know, i could be your boss and you would have no way of knowing it. you have NO idea of knowing so keep an open mind and don't judge people. you can assume that i'm such and such but the truth is YOU DO NOT KNOW so it would be stupid to go like "refujiunderground is an asshole in real life where he mistreats people." you don't know me.

This is definitely intriguing...because you're coming at several people for judging you....yet you just judged me, saying that I "must not come onto message boards often." For all you know, I could be on several boards. Because you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT and I AGREE with you..."what's on the internet doesn't always translate in real life." You are right. But you are a tad hypocritical based off of this post.

Also I didn't judge you at all in my post. I'm not taking sides in this "Refuji vs. GiancarloC" argument, both of you need to get a grip honestly...but I was pointing out that your previous statement was objectively inaccurate because communication communicates. I did not "assume that you are such and such," because....again....YOU ARE RIGHT. I don't know you. But when you say "i didn't know you can tell how somebody is in real life off of what they say on a message board".....then it seems as though you are missing something. But I never called you "an asshole who mistreats people." Or any derogatory terms. Wasn't me.

Also to quote you again: "it's not like anybody knows me offline on here and if they do, they probably will tell you differently about how i am on in real life than on this site. i can assure you that. the internet gives me more freedom than in real life where i can say things that i wouldn't say in person."

^^^a question based off this: Are you fake? This statement kinda implies that....but correct me if I'm wrong because I don't want to judge you.

 

[fetaby]

let's get this straight. i stated an opinion, you disagreed with it and decided to attack my character as if you have a personal issue with me. it's one thing if you had a problem with what i said, you could have just left it at that but to go into this whole "you're closeted, you're putting on a facade, and all this other bullshit". you're looking for something and then you have the nerve to try to push it on me like i'm the one with the problem.

Bitch please, go back to page one. Read your posts, read my post. It's #48.

I didn't disagree with you about shit. I asked you a question. But you're too busy playing martyr to bother with actually trying to have a discussion on a message board.

Now if you'd like to try again...

You said:

i'm not going to fit into a certain mold just because i'm gay or because i'm black. i never let a characteristic define me and it should never be like that.

Which is a very reasonable and respectable approach to living, one I don't have any problem agreeing with whatsoever.
But this quote coming from the same person who types this:

go ahead and call me girl and see if i don't bite your finger off. fuck it, i'll take the whole hand then. i was born with a dick. don't get cute with me because i'm gay.

Makes me want to ask this:

then why do you let what is stereotypically considered male aggression define your persona here at JustUsBoys, and here in this particular post?....

Why is it so important to you not let being gay or black define you, but so easily let being born with a dick define you? Asshole.

 

[refujiunderground]

This is definitely intriguing...because you're coming at several people for judging you....yet you just judged me, saying that I "must not come onto message boards often." For all you know, I could be on several boards. Because you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT and I AGREE with you..."what's on the internet doesn't always translate in real life." You are right. But you are a tad hypocritical based off of this post.

Also I didn't judge you at all in my post. I'm not taking sides in this "Refuji vs. GiancarloC" argument, both of you need to get a grip honestly...but I was pointing out that your previous statement was objectively inaccurate because communication communicates. I did not "assume that you are such and such," because....again....YOU ARE RIGHT. I don't know you. But when you say "i didn't know you can tell how somebody is in real life off of what they say on a message board".....then it seems as though you are missing something. But I never called you "an asshole who mistreats people." Or any derogatory terms. Wasn't me.

Also to quote you again: "it's not like anybody knows me offline on here and if they do, they probably will tell you differently about how i am on in real life than on this site. i can assure you that. the internet gives me more freedom than in real life where i can say things that i wouldn't say in person."

^^^a question based off this: Are you fake? This statement kinda implies that....but correct me if I'm wrong because I don't want to judge you.

i think you're reading into too much of what i'm saying. my simple point is this. this is just a web forum. i'm a real person. i do not feel obligated to be a certain way over the computer for anybody especially on a web forum. this is not a job, it's a hobby. i do not feel like having to follow certain guidelines a stranger makes if it serves me no purpose.

and i think you asking if i'm fake is just you reading way too much into what i'm saying. my point is why can't i just do what i want to do on here without people stepping into my business questioning every single thing. i don't come around telling people to make these threads or to say this or that. nor do i go as far as to wonder how they are offline because it's none of my business. i try to fall back away from that because i don't know who i'm dealing with. i can only assume. so i think it's out of your domain to even ask that because the truth is you will never know. i can tell you that i'm real or that i'm fake but how would you know? just leave it alone. i don't think you need an explanation for every single post i make or my reasons behind it or etc. that's just ridiculous. i mean dayum, do you really have to know every single thing about me or the working of my mind or whatever?

 

[elGeniuoso1721]

i think you're reading into too much of what i'm saying. my simple point is this. this is just a web forum. i'm a real person. i do not feel obligated to be a certain way over the computer for anybody especially on a web forum. this is not a job, it's a hobby. i do not feel like having to follow certain guidelines a stranger makes if it serves me no purpose.

and i think you asking if i'm fake is just you reading way too much into what i'm saying. my point is why can't i just do what i want to do on here without such people trying to dictate who i should be. i don't come around telling people to make these threads or to say this or that. nor do i go as far as to wonder how they are offline because it's none of my business. so i think it's out of your domain to even ask that because the truth is you will never know. i can tell you that i'm real or that i'm fake but how would you know? just leave it alone.

I was curious, so I asked. There's lots of irony here though. Meh. You have made a good point though also. Meh. I'll leave it alone since you asked. I think I got the answers I was looking for though, hahahaa

 

[jmadaf]

No, but I prefer Bitch when I'm getting fucked.

 

[refujiunderground]

Bitch please, go back to page one. Read your posts, read my post. It's #48.

I didn't disagree with you about shit. I asked you a question. But you're too busy playing martyr to bother with actually trying to have a discussion on a message board.

Now if you'd like to try again...

You said:

Which is a very reasonable and respectable approach to living, one I don't have any problem agreeing with whatsoever.
But this quote coming from the same person who types this:


Makes me want to ask this:



Why is it so important to you not let being gay or black define you, but so easily let being born with a dick define you? Asshole.

i don't like to be called girl because it plays into a stereotype of what a homosexual male is. like just because i'm black doesn't mean i like to be called the n-word or be called the n-word. just because i'm a gay guy doesn't mean i like to be called girl. i also mentioned that because i'm a man doesn't mean that you can call me bro or give me a 6 pack of beer for my birthday. wasn't really giving much emphasis with the whole "i was born with a dick" in my statement.

 

[refujiunderground]

I was curious, so I asked. There's lots of irony here though. Meh. You have made a good point though also. Meh. I'll leave it alone since you asked. I think I got the answers I was looking for though, hahahaa

i'm a real life person if that's what you're asking. am i fake as a person as in i'm a phony? depends on what i'm doing or who i'm around. of course, i'm not going to keep it real if it could get me in trouble. that would be stupid. sometimes, i lie because the truth can get my ass into some shit such as coming out the closet. at this point, i think that coming out wouldn't be the best thing to do because i could get kicked out where i live or could lose my job until i find one better which is what i'm doing now. but for the most part, i keep it real to myself and that's what counts.

and as for me asking you to mind your business. that was me pretty much telling you to stop trying to figure me out, my intentions and everything else because i can't explain to you every single thing i do or the threads i make or whatever. sometimes, i feel like doing it because i feel like doing it. i don't feel the need to explain everything.

okay now i'm done.

 

[fetaby]

i don't like to be called girl because it plays into a stereotype of what a homosexual male is. like just because i'm black doesn't mean i like to be called the n-word or be called the n-word. just because i'm a gay guy doesn't mean i like to be called girl. i also mentioned that because i'm a man doesn't mean that you can call me bro or give me a 6 pack of beer for my birthday. wasn't really giving much emphasis with the whole "i was born with a dick" in my statement.

Now I will have to disagree. And here's why...

All the things that I bolded are outside of your control. Sure, you don't have to like any of it. But you do understand that it is not your decision on how others choose to treat you based on their prejudices and stereotypes. It happens. Whatever...

But you didn't answer my question...

My question was, how a person who says they don't like for a characteristic that is outside of their control to define them, in turn chooses to define themselves in a stereotypical way?

You don't have to answer the question if you don't want to, that's your choice. You could keep it movin'....