Do you think the world is better off without religions ?

[HoarfrostMOoon]

I picked don't know. Just because you can follow your own moral code, one you feel is fair to each of your fellow man, does not mean everyone can? Some people might need the fear of god put into them in order to remain nonviolent or to remain 'moral' or to not sink into an existential nightmare and go postal!

I'm not entirely sure what religion is. Is it the Church/Temple/Mosque? Or is it the doctrine? The structure of belief and what it entails?


I like Aesop's Fables. If I were to pick a religion, it would be reading those short, metaphorical, creative stories. Always with a clear line at the end spelling out the meaning behind the tale, just in case you couldn't decipher it as you read along.

Religion is not so clear: denominations, interpretations, the fact that the original texts are translated and mistranslated and thousands of years old and so obviously altered over the years. You have to wonder if the texts, the holy books, were not in fact tailored to the liking of various kings or tyrants who held sway over the world in different eras of humanity.

 

[Benvolio]

I am no religious but I think without it there will never be a generally agreed set of basic values. Part of the US problem today is that for many the desire of democrat to get elected and dominate is the basis of their values. Those are not the words they use but no other analysis will explain their inconsistent positions.

 

[Jacquemar]

Religion is not so clear: denominations, interpretations, the fact that the original texts are translated and mistranslated and thousands of years old and so obviously altered over the years. You have to wonder if the texts, the holy books, were not in fact tailored to the liking of various kings or tyrants who held sway over the world in different eras of humanity.

Good job. I think you hit the nail on the head.

 

[kallipolis]

Religion is not so clear: denominations, interpretations, the fact that the original texts are translated and mistranslated and thousands of years old and so obviously altered over the years. You have to wonder if the texts, the holy books, were not in fact tailored to the liking of various kings or tyrants who held sway over the world in different eras of humanity

The militant atheist spends their life wondering, and speculating with meaningless words to amplify their empty speculations.

 

[Telstra]

The militant atheist spends their life wondering, and speculating with meaningless words to amplify their empty speculations.

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How many times do you have to say that?
The "militant atheist" never kill people.
The "militant religious" kills people.

 

[kallipolis]

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How many times do you have to say that?
The "militant atheist" never kill people.
The "militant religious" kills people.

Then you conveniently overlooked the anti religious campaigns of the Soviet Union, and the Soviet Satellite states. Did I overlook Nazi Germany's incarceration and extermination of so many Christian, and Jewish people.

Your anti religion posts on this forum Hot Topics, and the Politics forum are also duly noted. [Text: Removed by Moderator]

The militant crusading atheist has a notable presence across these forums. Quid pro quo

Hadn't you noticed?

 

[Telstra]

Then you conveniently overlooked the anti religious campaigns of the Soviet Union, and the Soviet Satellite states. Did I overlook Nazi Germany's incarceration and extermination of so many Christian, and Jewish people.

Your anti religion posts on this forum Hot Topics, and the Politics forum are also duly noted. [Text: Removed by Moderator]

The militant crusading atheist has a notable presence across these forums. Quid pro quo

Hadn't you noticed?

Atheist is simply after a long long search/study about religion we come to the conclusion that there is ZERO evidence what the religious is claiming therefore we don't believe.

Anything else like Nazism, Stalin-ism, ... etc is an ideology.
Ideology is not = don't believe

Note: Nazism can be catholic.
Stalinist can be orthodox ... etc.

 

[Telstra]

Here [Text: Removed by Moderator] kallipolis, religion destroy other cultures with no mercy:
http://www.pbs.org/godinamerica/view/

 

[zoltanspawn]

Here [Text: Removed by Moderator] kallipolis, religion destroy other cultures with no mercy:
http://www.pbs.org/godinamerica/view/

Have you even watched the series? It's quite a stretch to cite that and claim it explores the idea that religion destroys other cultures without mercy.

 

[Telstra]

Have you even watched the series? It's quite a stretch to cite that and claim it explores the idea that religion destroys other cultures without mercy.

I'm watching it now,
but my experience about Christianity is to "go and spread the word" to as many people as possible ... meaning destroy other cultures/ideas ...

 

[Ninja108]

to me,religion has always been about one thing,controlling people.

 

[lightsandsprites]

I think religion teaches good morals etc and is good community.

When it goes too far though, like basing "facts and information" on I see as an unreliable source such as God.

 

[bankside]

Religion represents early humanity's collective decision that what is assumed to be true is not worth investigating.

The Enlightenment represents the decision that it's better to actually find out than just continue to assume; that reason is better than doctrine; that asking "why" is better than listening obediently; that letting go of falsehoods is better than an undisrupted tradition. Anything within religion that is worthwhile will be unscathed by this exercise.

And the better values of religion are not really in dispute; it is only a question of authorship. Indeed the better values of religion don't seem to arise from within any particular one; they just seem to be moral common sense. No harm in putting those through the same kind of vetting either.

 

[zoltanspawn]

The problem with your brief history is that while religion can represent an unquestioning attitude and obedience to doctrine, it does not only represent that.

 

[Mariatenebre]

Certain religions most certainly the world would be better off without. However others enrich the world.

 

[Jacquemar]

What's the difference...Same basic definition, but longer and more detailed, so...

It's only superficially the same. Your definition is far too vague and offers no criterion to determine what is or is not a religion, and thusly leaves the definition open to unqualified and incorrect interpretation.

 

[popcult80]

Absolutelt its all a scare tactic to keep people in line...the simple fact that bible has been "revised" over the years makes it all a joke.

 

[Slaveboy]

It has always harmed progress with it's self-loathing and armageddon worshipping BS. I'd say the world would be hundreds of years ahead of the way it is now without people basing their actions on a made up authority.

 

[bankside]

The problem with your brief history is that while religion can represent an unquestioning attitude and obedience to doctrine, it does not only represent that.

I think you may have missed the part of my brief history where I take about things other than doctrine, and the part where I said the things worthwhile in religion should continue.

 

[kallipolis]

It has always harmed progress with it's self-loathing and armageddon worshipping BS. I'd say the world would be hundreds of years ahead of the way it is now without people basing their actions on a made up authority.

Such an observation has been noted often, on this forum and does not change the fact that human beings are as well behaved, and as badly behaved as they wish to be - with, or without religion to inspire their decisions, and actions.

Just imagine how helpful, humanitarian and life affirming all those Communist leaders were in the Soviet Union, and China in caring for the well being of their citizens when butchering them to death for daring to oppose them, in a similar manner to all those religious fanatics who did, and do likewise while exclaiming God's name to justify their un godly actions murdering their neighbours in the name of God.

Human beings share very much in common when we reveal the worst that we can impose upon our fellow man.